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tbh i wanted to say black as well, but i didn't want to seem a stalker.

anyways, as much as i'd like to speak about cups *cough* D cup in particular *cough*, guess this is not the place...

tbh i wanted to say black as well, but i didn't want to seem a stalker.

anyways, as much as i'd like to speak about cups *cough* D cup in particular *cough*, guess this is not the place...

Understood. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

as for the style, well... you may want either a holy/dark set to farm SG trophies at low difficulty or an elemental for every use.

Can anyone explain what he means by this? Im guessing SG stands for "superior grade" trophies. What I'm really interested in knowing is what is the difference in end game purpose between elemental mages and dark/holy mages? When would I want to go elemental mage and when would I want to go dark/holy? I'm pretty much a casual player looking to go mage at some point and I'm just trying to understand what style would suite my purposes better.

Can anyone explain what he means by this? Im guessing SG stands for "superior grade" trophies.

SG are SchoolGirls. the last three arenas. since they are naturally weak to Holy and Dark, it has sense to assemble a cheap set to earn trophies and tokens from those arenas.

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What I'm really interested in knowing is what is the difference in end game purpose between elemental mages and dark/holy mages? When would I want to go elemental mage and when would I want to go dark/holy? I'm pretty much a casual player looking to go mage at some point and I'm just trying to understand what style would suite my purposes better.

The difference is mostly due to the overall average mitigations from monsters that you can find in this wiki page.

Usually, all mages need to have some normal cloth equipment to give them magic proficiency, which helps in reducing monsters mitigations, and then use imperil to pretty much completely get rid of the specific mitigation related to their spell element.

As dark and holy have the lowest overall mitigations, players can get a full phase set(preferably radiant prefixed), and play at low difficulties, as they will be able to one shot pretty much everything in their way without the need to use imperil.

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When changing to mage, first of all it's advised to go with 1H maging, as you can raise your magic proficiency and have decent survivability having a shield, but yor damage will be lacking until you go full mage with a proper staff.

It's also advised to go with an elemental mage first, as the prices of equipment are lower than for holy/dark, and if you aren't going to forge a lot and not be fully buffed when fighting, then you will also have to use imperil for holy/dark, which completely ruins the whole point of going dark/holy mage in the first place.

You would want to go dark/holy mage when you want to start playing without imperil and have a lot of money to invest in top end equipment, with enough credits left to properly forge everything, which will require phazons, bindings of destruction, high-grade cloth and such, so it's mostly when you are a rich end game player.

It's also advised to go with an elemental mage first, as the prices of equipment are lower than for holy/dark

nope. since Holy and Dark have separated proficiencies, if one wants to go one of those styles it's completely useless to go Elemental first. and vice versa. plus, it requires another whole set. better to start with a low-tier set (knowing that there's still room for improvement) and get accostumed for the style.
also, since holy/dark cost more mana than elementals, don't take for granted that 1H mage is the universal solution. it works wonders for elementals (or so i've read), but holy/dark could really get good use of staff proc.

you will also have to use imperil for holy/dark, which completely ruins the whole point of going dark/holy mage in the first place.

how comes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
afaik elementals should all expect to imperil, but holy/dark (especially holy) can opt to use it or not. the main difference being the amount of prof they have to have (since proficiency will have to provide the same effect that mitigation reduction from imperil gives) - roughly 1.69x your level for Imperil play, 2.0x your level for non-Imperil play.

still costs quite a bit for a mage to play without imperil regardless of their element.getting 2.0x prof without compromising your magic score (edb/mdb) is a tall order unless you're made of credits.

How does 1H Mage works? waki of nimble+shield and cloth armors?

This post has been edited by akuma101: Apr 24 2017, 12:20

yes you'd be wearing the mage armors (cotton/phase) and you'd be using buckler+weapon where you want to look for mana conservation, edb (from the elemental weapon), and survivability (parry/block). what you prioritize will be up to you.

suitable weapons
wakizashi/rapier
suffixes: battlecaster/nimble

suitable shield
buckler
suffixes: barrier/battlecaster

yes you'd be wearing the mage armors (cotton/phase) and you'd be using buckler+weapon where you want to look for mana conservation, edb (from the elemental weapon), and survivability (parry/block). what you prioritize will be up to you.

suitable weapons
wakizashi/rapier
suffixes: battlecaster/nimble

suitable shield
buckler
suffixes: barrier/battlecaster

Wouldn't it be ideal if you mana cost is around 110% so that you have a higher chance of gaining prof? My only shield is this
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=26f822e4b8

also, since holy/dark cost more mana than elementals, don't take for granted that 1H mage is the universal solution. it works wonders for elementals (or so i've read), but holy/dark could really get good use of staff proc.

1H mage doesn't work that well with holy and dark since there are three main problems:

• Mana costs will be a pain
• Lower imperil effectiveness (and Imperil is the thing that makes 1H mage work)
• Holy/Dark cast time + lower damage = damage received is still very high

And it's not like 1H -> 1H mage -> mage is the only way to make the switch.
Just playing some arenas at lower difficulties each day is a pretty valid solution.

Wouldn't it be ideal if you mana cost is around 110% so that you have a higher chance of gaining prof? My only shield is this

If you want to use mana elixirs every 50 rounds go ahead, it's not really recommended though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I am wondering, es you need a Prof of about 670 to be at Proffactor 0.68 at level 400, is the Bonus of 1 Staff and 1-2 Cloth pieces enough to raise your effective Prof by 275 Points? Seems a bit high.

I wondered: Using Reloader for a few days now and I rarely get about 3 turns/second.

And then I see people with regular 3.5+ (or similar). Any tipps on how to improve my number?

(And yes if I stare at HV all the time and do nothing else I'd probably be around 3.1+ or something)



And a question about CracklingCast: The nifty feature to have a button to hover over for expiring self-buffs is nice and saves quite a bit of time. But sometimes when my health is low it does not work, and I have to click the Hotkey anyway. Anyone know that issue?

suitable weapons
wakizashi/rapier
suffixes: battlecaster/nimble

slight fix: usually people go for wakis because parry is high, EDB decent and BUR/ITR very low. it won't be used for physical attacks, so if you have to resort to a rapier, maybe you may want to consider a shortsword: same stats but way lower price. or so i think, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

1H mage doesn't work that well with holy and dark since there are three main problems:

• Mana costs will be a pain
• Lower imperil effectiveness (and Imperil is the thing that makes 1H mage work)
• Holy/Dark cast time + lower damage = damage received is still very high

And it's not like 1H -> 1H mage -> mage is the only way to make the switch.
Just playing some arenas at lower difficulties each day is a pretty valid solution.

which was my point as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I am wondering, es you need a Prof of about 670 to be at Proffactor 0.68 at level 400, is the Bonus of 1 Staff and 1-2 Cloth pieces enough to raise your effective Prof by 275 Points? Seems a bit high.

Note that most high-level mages have prof forged to 50.
And I can assure you that is enough as long as you have leg equips.

I wondered: Using Reloader for a few days now and I rarely get about 3 turns/second.
And then I see people with regular 3.5+ (or similar). Any tipps on how to improve my number?

It also depends on your ping and your pc specs/browser choosen.
3.5+ it's probably difficult unless you're from Europe.

I am wondering, es you need a Prof of about 670 to be at Proffactor 0.68 at level 400, is the Bonus of 1 Staff and 1-2 Cloth pieces enough to raise your effective Prof by 275 Points? Seems a bit high.

theorically you should pick the slot that allows you to reach that value, forging staff and cottons included. but actually it's not like 0.68 is the only valid value and 0.67 or 0.69 will break the system. just try to go as close as possible to that value. probably a slight difference will only result in a couple of spells more or so.

Wouldn't it be ideal if you mana cost is around 110% so that you have a higher chance of gaining prof? My only shield is this
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=26f822e4b8

grinding the prof is pain in the ass,

grinding is easy, just use cracling cast and reach turn 1000 normal diff. then leave. mon is deadly after turn 1000.

but seems my 1H mage build is faster than my normal 1H

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The 2 cents I'd like to put in is for Dark Descent.

If you're a normal to light player (Accumulated rounds less than 1,000 in a rolling 17 hour period),
You should start the IW on Hard and get the potency you're looking for started up.

If you're a heavy player (Greater than 1000 rounds), you should start the IW on Hell.
This brings up the benefit of Dark Descent due to receiving 2 potencies on the first round.

For me at least, after I get it started in the right direction, I reforge on the first unwanted potency to attempt 2 potencies only.

Which is why I'm still working on a peerless cap after 2 months and used up 104 shards so far.

Which is why I should say "Suggest not getting too greedy on the outcome." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)