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Apr 15 2017, 20:00
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Kinights
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Apr 15 2017, 14:05)  613
Which leaves enough exp to get 2 stats to 468 and 3 to 467 Or maxing each stat before increasing another would give 515, 382, 189, 21, 6
Thanks! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So a power user could potentially have 24% resist with 600 WIS and a mage 24% parry with 600 DEX. Quite decent to think about exchanging some points, mainly from END, to invest in these two. If someone is able to get 637 AGI from equipment, they should get a base evade of 50% already, which isn't as good as a forged shield, but considering equipment bonus and shadow veil, it's quite something.
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Apr 15 2017, 20:25
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Usagi =
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Just curious but has there ever been a sale or auction of a PARD? I tried searching and the only instance I can find of it being linked to on the forums is during this lottery: [ alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&s...&lottery=41
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Apr 15 2017, 21:05
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Apr 15 2017, 19:58)  Please tell me the tier of the following items:
Platinum Coupon Gold Coupon Silver Coupon Bronze Coupon Thank you
they *should* be in pair respectively with... hmm... XMas trophies, Noodlies, SGs and Bosses. but take it with a grain of salt.
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Apr 15 2017, 21:51
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Kinights
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Bringing this topic here, as pointed by Scremaz(sorry btw). QUOTE(sssss2 @ Apr 15 2017, 15:59)  Well, I collected and analyzed huge amount of battle logs and simulated various stats, equipment. You don't know how defensive stats works.
If a pmi increases from 80% to 82%, it reduces incoming physical damages by 10%. NOT 2%
(100-82) / (100-80) = 18/20 = 90% Though a large portion of damage is a crushing type, but Dampening can't overwhelm Protection as it doesn't reduce other type damages.
Indeed, I also wouldn't change a 2% PMI increase over 2% crushing mit. What misled me was that increasing mitigation over 80% would already be quite difficult, so considering 2%PMI and 10% crushing mit, both would be more even, but raising crushing mit seems to be on the same rate if not even harder than raising the overall PMI. I didn't go after actual numbers, but PMI would still be better than crushing overall I guess. My main point is from you saying that warding is useless though. Wouldn't it be on the same level if not better than protection for power slaughter users? I would prefer +2% MMI over +2% PMI due to the presence of parry and the low resist that comes only from WIS.
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Apr 15 2017, 22:01
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Noni
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Apr 15 2017, 20:25)  Just curious but has there ever been a sale or auction of a PARD? I tried searching and the only instance I can find of it being linked to on the forums is during this lottery: [ alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&s...&lottery=41Not recently at least. A good LARD is your best option. But those are rare, also.
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Apr 15 2017, 22:27
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 15 2017, 11:47)  ADB
Ok, my rapiers (Superior only) are giving me about +500 dmg. But I have an exquisite axe, whose attack was a bit over 900. Upgraded it 5 times and now it's over 1000. So put on all my toughest armor and will be testing that. Been promising so far.
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Apr 15 2017, 22:34
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Kinights
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Apr 15 2017, 17:27)  Ok, my rapiers (Superior only) are giving me about +500 dmg. But I have an exquisite axe, whose attack was a bit over 900. Upgraded it 5 times and now it's over 1000. So put on all my toughest armor and will be testing that.
Been promising so far.
In case you are playing Light + DW, don't use two of the same weapon, or even weapons that give the same weapon proc(like axe+wakizashi both giving bleeding wound procs) on the weapon slots. In case you are using 1H+shield, using the axe on lower difficulties might be okay if you can kill monsters with 1~2 hits, but otherwise using a good rapier and playing on higher difficulties is better, as it has parry and the Penetrated Armor proc.
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Apr 15 2017, 22:51
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Orion-Guardian
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Quick one, because I wondered quite a while: If I have a weapon with Void Strike (be it ethereal or just IW 10) wouldn't the Proc "Penetrated armor" be useless?
Or am I misinterpreting "Monster do not have any resist against void" and they skills got mitigation against the Damage but not against Void as well?
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Apr 15 2017, 22:58
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Slobber
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in respect to melee
a monster has physical mitigation
and then it has crushing mitig, penetrating mitig, slashing mitig (just like us)
void ignores the crushing/pene/slashing but does not ignore the physical mitig penetrated armor lowers physical mitigation
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Apr 15 2017, 23:24
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Muddybug
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Ok, the disappearing OFC happened again. I cast it nothing happens. Cast it twice more and OFC turns pale and no damage.
Soon after, I couldn't shift out of Spirit Stance and I had to kill the combat window and reopen it to get Spirit Stance to turn off.
That said, with my new axe and a ton of spells, I beat the bloody IWTBTH RE.
Do the scripts know about alt.hentaiverse? I should look I guess.
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Apr 15 2017, 23:27
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 15 2017, 19:51)  My main point is from you saying that warding is useless though.
Wouldn't it be on the same level if not better than protection for power slaughter users?
I would prefer +2% MMI over +2% PMI due to the presence of parry and the low resist that comes only from WIS. Use a battle log analyzer to check the proportion of incoming damage for each type. You'll see that, even given melee's parry, low resist, low MMI, and such, incoming physical damage is still much higher than incoming magical damage. Thus, PMI > MMI, if you get the chance to choose between them. QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Apr 15 2017, 20:27)  Ok, my rapiers (Superior only) are giving me about +500 dmg. But I have an exquisite axe, whose attack was a bit over 900. Upgraded it 5 times and now it's over 1000. So put on all my toughest armor and will be testing that.
Been promising so far. Axe (and club) will give you more ADB, which will indeed make OFC better, but using them instead of a rapier will significantly reduce the damage output of your standard attacks. It's probably not worth it. QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Apr 15 2017, 21:24)  Ok, the disappearing OFC happened again. I cast it nothing happens. Cast it twice more and OFC turns pale and no damage.
Soon after, I couldn't shift out of Spirit Stance and I had to kill the combat window and reopen it to get Spirit Stance to turn off. Browser problem on your end.
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Apr 15 2017, 23:58
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 15 2017, 17:27) 
Browser problem on your end.
Found one other issue here. At Overcharge > 200 and < 210, turning on Spirit Stance and then clicking yielded the message "insufficient Overcharge for OFC". I'm paraphrasing the last but I saw that happen too.
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Apr 16 2017, 00:02
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trifonidis
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hi just a quick question (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i was playing DW up to now but i started seeing i die a bit too quickly...so i decided to change to one handed with a shield...cause logic says thats more tanky...right?but now i see that my damage is a bit lacking and i am clearing a lot slower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) am i heading the right way in the game?or am i doing something wrong?thanks for your time.  
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Apr 16 2017, 00:20
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Ass Spanker
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How long does it take for 1H to pfudor DWD? Even with my shit 0.75 turn/s net, 4 hours is too damn long
This post has been edited by as013: Apr 16 2017, 00:21
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Apr 16 2017, 00:37
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Slobber
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think someone said 30 mins
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Apr 16 2017, 00:40
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(as013 @ Apr 16 2017, 00:20)  How long does it take for 1H to pfudor DWD? Even with my shit 0.75 turn/s net, 4 hours is too damn long
with that t/s your time is about right ^^ with 3,5+ t/s you need 30~mins, just a simple advice.. forget about meele if you cannot get better internet connection
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Apr 16 2017, 00:40
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(as013 @ Apr 15 2017, 17:20)  How long does it take for 1H to pfudor DWD? Even with my shit 0.75 turn/s net, 4 hours is too damn long
There's an exchange about that here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Ninja'ed This post has been edited by yami_zetsu: Apr 16 2017, 00:43
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Apr 16 2017, 00:47
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Orion-Guardian
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Wasn't the 30 Minutes a Mage?
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Apr 16 2017, 00:49
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Orion-Guardian @ Apr 15 2017, 22:47)  Wasn't the 30 Minutes a Mage? Sub-30 is definitely possible for 1h. Unboosted mage record is something like 10-15 iirc.
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Apr 16 2017, 00:54
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Ass Spanker
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too poor can't afford mage. maybe I should turn off vpn when I play hv. should be able to get to 3-3.5 h. gotta do a proper benchmark tomorrow. does imperil reduce total number of turns?
This post has been edited by as013: Apr 16 2017, 00:55
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