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post Mar 7 2017, 16:13
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 21:05) *

not that i know. they should all have fixed values.
oh. then he'll have to go for a WTB, i guess
another Elec mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
hmm... for such an unusual way to go, i'd open sort of an announcement thread with your equip exposed and, saying, 3 days countdown in which you'll say you'll accept credits, hath, item valued at price check thread or slightly less... just to let people enough time to earn the needed amount of credits somehow. then, since you'll be sort of a minor auctioneer, the actual auction thread which starts at monday? tuesday? and ends one hour after latanium's. it would also be a breathe of fresh air in this section (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

another way (which will require the cooperation of the user who already sent you an offer) may be a public evaluation of said offer. there's the chance that considering forge, IWs and whatnot it may already be good enough, who knows? be sure to ask him if he's fine with discussing it publicly though. if he wants to remain anonymous, i can take those items in my MM and leave them pending until he'll call them back himself.


i do ask them (dont know their gender)
if the offers still stands.

maybe after a reply or maybe they read this thread already i dont know, but i will then ask wether its possible to bring the offer to public.
anyway, theyre a lv 500 user though.

but, i dont fully understand what you propose. youre saying i should just announce it in price check thread or open a wts "auction" thread?
i do understand the 3days thingy so it can gives enough time for people to take a look. maybe i should also use the auction timer thingy.
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post Mar 7 2017, 16:30
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Mar 7 2017, 22:37) *

Just a side question.. On Peerless weapons, are all stats static L with exception of ADB/MDB?
I keep seeing ADB/MDB fluctuate on them, with all other stats static.
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Sep 28 2016, 00:31) *

Peerless less than max is due to quality differences. For shade this is due to Arcanist having inflated PXP0 over others from increased PABs



You can see Arcanist (ADB) and Focus staff (EDB).

http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=729
http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=722
http://hentaiverse.org/?s=Bazaar&ss=lt&lottery=779

edit: Peerless Tempestuous Oak Staff of Focus
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post Mar 7 2017, 16:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 16:05) *

another Elec mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Yep, another small Elec mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Eat my popcorn and take a seat to watch this 'Peerless' war. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 16:38
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Mar 7 2017, 16:37) *

Just a side question.. On Peerless weapons, are all stats static L with exception of ADB/MDB?
I keep seeing ADB/MDB fluctuate on them, with all other stats static.

That happens on forged equips due to the scripts using slightly incorrect formula and estimating the base ADB/MDB wrong. Scremaz promised to fix this.

QUOTE(NerfThis @ Mar 7 2017, 17:30) *

This increases all stats by a bit, not just ADB/MDB.
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post Mar 7 2017, 16:42
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QUOTE(diegodiego13 @ Mar 7 2017, 15:13) *

anyway, theyre a lv 500 user though.

well, reaching lv400 won't take you too much. the problem will be to raise the proper amount of fragments and such. i encourage you not to buy them from bazaar though.

QUOTE(diegodiego13 @ Mar 7 2017, 15:13) *

but, i dont fully understand what you propose. youre saying i should just announce it in price check thread or open a wts "auction" thread?

first an announcement (which will last a bunch of days) to build a bit of advertising, then the auction. the announcement should be opened on friday for obvious reasons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(diegodiego13 @ Mar 7 2017, 15:13) *

maybe i should also use the auction timer thingy.

of course. it's there for a reason afterall. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 16:46
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QUOTE(cmos @ Mar 7 2017, 06:38) *

That happens on forged equips due to the scripts using slightly incorrect formula and estimating the base ADB/MDB wrong. Scremaz promised to fix this.
This increases all stats by a bit, not just ADB/MDB.



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post Mar 7 2017, 16:47
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QUOTE(vivikinomoto123 @ Mar 7 2017, 15:34) *

Yep, another small Elec mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Eat my popcorn and take a seat to watch this 'Peerless' war. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

come on, i know you can at least make a starting bid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(cmos @ Mar 7 2017, 15:38) *

That happens on forged equips due to the scripts using slightly incorrect formula and estimating the base ADB/MDB wrong. Scremaz promised to fix this.

hopefully (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

btw, reviewing a couple of things on the mage version. mostly graphical ones. just the time to do that, putting passwords on spreadsheets and whatnot and they should be ready (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:06
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QUOTE(vivikinomoto123 @ Mar 8 2017, 01:34) *

Yep, another small Elec mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Eat my popcorn and take a seat to watch this 'Peerless' war. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And I'd thought you'd be one of the major participants (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). I'd rather prefer it be auctioned off too, time to sit on the sideline and see who has deepest pockets.
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:15
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the list of competitors is growing narrow and narrow...
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:16
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 7 2017, 21:48) *

At that price I don't think you'll get a bite unless sssss2 or Super goes big. This is how much I value that staff (IMG:https://forums.e-hentai.org/ehgt/awards/goldstar.png)



I won't participate the war.

Now I just need a few crystals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[WTB] Crystal pack @ 33k (3500/3700)
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:21
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 18:15) *

the list of competitors is growing narrow and narrow...

Only hath barons can afford a 100m+ staff and some of them already have a PSWD that they don't use instead of us poor Elec mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:25
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Aw, I hope we have a big, impressive war (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 17:38
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QUOTE(cmos @ Mar 7 2017, 16:21) *

Only hath barons can afford a 100m+ staff and some of them already have a PSWD that they don't use instead of us poor Elec mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

those staffs don't count, if you ask me. for example, blackjac's a 1H melee and doesn't plan to shift too soon, afaik. and not sure chronokorea is an Elec mage to begin with. on the other hand, guess that many people may think that a LSWD is already enough, and don't want to go through the pain of a new IW just to show off a P.

but well, still too early to say anything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 18:09
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I'm finally building a good mage set so I can get through arenas. I ended up with wind because that's what's for sale, but it seems like the elements are subtly different in the amount of resistance monsters have, the spell shield effect, and the spell effect. I'll go on the highest difficulty I can quickly. I'm only in it for the tokens because I just want less emaciated monsters. Collateral loot and fun are acceptable.

What is each element considered best for? Which are best used with imperil, and which aren't?

Following on that, I'm lucky enough to own this wind staff:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=382d7d981d

Question: with that much built in counter-resist, how much elemental proficiency should I aim for? Is there a good wiki page describing elements, imperil, gear selection(e/g/ how many phase, how many proficiency), and relative play style?

I know cast speed, crit probability and damage, EDB, MDB, varying real world results and such make this question impossible to answer in the specific. Just hoping for abstract generalities.

Thanks in advance.

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post Mar 7 2017, 18:22
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QUOTE(magwitch @ Mar 7 2017, 17:09) *

I'm finally building a good mage set so I can get through arenas. I ended up with wind because that's what's for sale, but it seems like the elements are subtly different in the amount of resistance monsters have, the spell shield effect, and the spell effect. I'll go on the highest difficulty I can quickly. I'm only in it for the shards because I just want less emaciated monsters. Collateral loot and fun are acceptable.

What is each element considered best for? Which are best used with imperil, and which aren't?

don't remember the source, but ssss brought out datas that hint all elements are pretty much equal on efficiency, at least on GF.
all elements should imperil afaik, but holy and dark can somehow go on even without it. they only need higher prof.

QUOTE(magwitch @ Mar 7 2017, 17:09) *

Following on that, I'm lucky enough to own this wind staff:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=382d7d981d

Question: with that much built in counter-resist, how much elemental proficiency should I aim for? Is there a good wiki page describing elements, imperil, gear selection(e/g/ how many phase, how many proficiency), and relative play style?

prof factor should be 0.7 or so, thus your prof being 170% your level. are you level 405? your elemental prof should be 690 or so.
the amount of cottons has to be chosen judging by which slot(s) allow you to reach that value. eventually even with the perk.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Magic_Proficiencies
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...ced#Mage_Builds
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 16:47) *

come on, i know you can at least make a starting bid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Yep, I definitely will make a starting bid and then watch the war from the sidelines. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 7 2017, 17:06) *

And I'd thought you'd be one of the major participants (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). I'd rather prefer it be auctioned off too, time to sit on the sideline and see who has deepest pockets.


Also want to see who has deepest pockets, too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(ctaglack @ Mar 7 2017, 17:25) *

Aw, I hope we have a big, impressive war (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Ready to go down in history. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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What is each element considered best for? Which are best used with imperil, and which aren't?

Question: with that much built in counter-resist, how much elemental proficiency should I aim for? Is there a good wiki page describing elements, imperil, gear selection(e/g/ how many phase, how many proficiency), and relative play style?



For elemental mage who play PFUDOR arenas, and you use 4+1 set (4 Phase + 1 Cotton) will be better.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 18:22) *

all elements should imperil afaik, but holy and dark can somehow go on even without it. they only need higher prof.


Sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(magwitch @ Mar 7 2017, 18:09) *


I know cast speed, crit probability and damage, EDB, MDB, varying real world results and such make this question impossible to answer in the specific. Just hoping for abstract generalities.

Thanks in advance.


You are level 405, I think the following forging is enough if you only play PFUDOR Arenas.

You can forge your
staff (Magical Damage Lv.50 Magical Crit Chance Lv.20 Elemental Proficiency Lv.25 Deprecating Proficiency Lv.25 Wind Spell Damage Lv.25 Intelligence Bonus Lv.20 Wisdom Bonus Lv.20)
and Phase cloth (Physical Defense Lv.10 Evade Chance Lv.10 Wind Spell Damage Lv.10 Agility Bonus Lv.10 Intelligence Bonus Lv.10 Wisdom Bonus Lv.10)

and Cotton cloth (Elemental Proficiency Lv.20-30).

If you want faster Arenas cleared time, Radiant prefix is a good choice.

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post Mar 7 2017, 19:46
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just wondering, how important is Resist for a mage? an unmissable stat or something that if comes it's good, otherwise not worth mentioning? i mean, if i uprade WIS i'm more interested in MP tank or in Resist?

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post Mar 7 2017, 19:49
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QUOTE(vivikinomoto123 @ Mar 7 2017, 19:16) *

For elemental mage who play PFUDOR arenas, and you use 4+1 set (4 Phase + 1 Cotton) will be better.


Thank you for weighing in. Does it matter much which slot? Can you have too much counter-resist, or is 0.7 with phase just the apex of the curve?

QUOTE(vivikinomoto123 @ Mar 7 2017, 19:16) *

If you want faster Arenas cleared time, Radiant prefix is a good choice.


Why do so many go with charged?
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:53
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QUOTE(magwitch @ Mar 7 2017, 18:49) *

Does it matter much which slot? Can you have too much counter-resist, or is 0.7 with phase just the apex of the curve?

yes and yes. consider that the more prof you have past that point, the more EDB you're throwing away. that's why before i said you should decide which slot based on which piece allows you to reach that threshold. obviously, 0.01~0.02 means nothing, but still...

QUOTE(magwitch @ Mar 7 2017, 18:49) *

Why do so many go with charged?

because it's another way to boost firepower. the difference is between hitting the same amount of times but stronger or more times but with the same force as usual.
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:56
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2017, 18:46) *

just wondering, how important is Resist for a mage? an unmissable stat or something that if comes it's good, otherwise not worth mentioning? i mean, if i uprade WIS i'm more interested in MP tank or in Resist?


Deep, deep in the PF-fest I need all the help I can get (except vase and gum - that's cheating). So I value my resist, too. But not as much as my Pmit and Evade. MP tank for me is now more than enough, but that's probably because of my eco4 on my staff*. My stash of mana elixir is growing.


*Can't reforge that staff, because I don't have a spare staff to IW it with. Because I think Id rather have spellweaver and or archmage next to the 5 pen.
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