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post Feb 11 2017, 21:08
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 11 2017, 19:51) *

If I don't change any equipment and don't forge anymore, would HV get easier as I level up at my level or would it stay the same? All equip is soulfused, naturally, so it will level up with me. But monsters are higher level also. How does this work out?

How much is the PL of monsters you face now at PFUDOR? Maybe you're already against monsters at PL cap.
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post Feb 11 2017, 21:12
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Feb 11 2017, 20:08) *

How much is the PL of monsters you face now at PFUDOR? Maybe you're already against monsters at PL cap.


He certainly is, but the fact remains that monsters get stronger as well as you level up. Still, I believe players make faster progress than monsters with leveling, so with a full set of soulfused equipment your life should still become easier as you level up.
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post Feb 11 2017, 21:14
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I think if I understood https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster...s._Player_Level and https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

The Max PL DJNoni will be facing at PFUDOR would be ((448 + 125) ^ 1.27) - 247, which would be ~2936, so they must have hit the limit a while ago?
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post Feb 11 2017, 21:15
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Feb 11 2017, 20:12) *

He certainly is, but the fact remains that monsters get stronger as well as you level up. Still, I believe players make faster progress than monsters with leveling, so with a full set of soulfused equipment your life should still become easier as you level up.


That's what I suspected. But I can't be sure, 'cause I forge regularly and sometimes upgrade equipment. Well, I'm still going to continue forging, I guess.
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post Feb 11 2017, 22:31
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Feb 11 2017, 20:12) *

He certainly is, but the fact remains that monsters get stronger as well as you level up. Still, I believe players make faster progress than monsters with leveling, so with a full set of soulfused equipment your life should still become easier as you level up.

Well, you get stronger with the same rate if your equipment is soulbound.
So it cancels it out.

The level up that strenghten the monsters without strenghtening who fights them, is the trainer's level up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 12 2017, 00:26
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QUOTE(ctaglack @ Feb 11 2017, 20:14) *

I think if I understood https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster...s._Player_Level and https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

The Max PL DJNoni will be facing at PFUDOR would be ((448 + 125) ^ 1.27) - 247, which would be ~2936, so they must have hit the limit a while ago?


That formula is incorrect and largely underestimates the monsters PL. I've always faced monsters (much) higher than this estimated PL.
Last time I checked, I was facing PL1350 while being lvl265, Hard difficulty, while according to the formula I should face monsters PL950.
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post Feb 12 2017, 00:31
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Feb 11 2017, 21:31) *

Well, you get stronger with the same rate if your equipment is soulbound.
So it cancels it out.

The level up that strenghten the monsters without strenghtening who fights them, is the trainer's level up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Oh, and anyway, forgot one thing.

Don't tell lies guys, there are no strong monsters.

Single monsters aren't even close to the word strong.
Big groups of them can be.


But such things don't really matter when you wear a pure energy field with 45 stripes of barrier power on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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post Feb 12 2017, 00:35
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Feb 11 2017, 23:31) *

But such things don't really matter when you wear a pure energy field with 45 stripes of barrier power on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

At high levels there are more Mages than stars in the sky, so no barrier power there.

PS: Btw, deep in PFFest/IW monsters are stronk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 12 2017, 00:53
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Feb 11 2017, 23:35) *

At high levels there are more Mages than stars in the sky, so no barrier power there.

PS: Btw, deep in PFFest/IW monsters are stronk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

In fact mages worry about monsters hurting them, cure the damage, imperil the group and blast with a couple of hits.

1h melee worry about buff expiring, watching for the spirit word to be always highlighted in red and to wipe out the field by going up and down with the mouse (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Edit: as a person that did a PFUDORfest with 1H: the cures are very few with 67% block and >60% parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Feb 12 2017, 01:55
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Alright, now, I know the answer is just play with one-handed a bit till you get the proficiency, but if I were to say, try and speed up the gain of heavy armor prof (mine is still at about 100 ish, so I'm very squishy), does the setting matter? Because it says armor prof is gained when mobs attack you, does it matter if it's a Normal group of mobs, or one at like, say, Nintendo? Because if it doesn't matter, I'm going into Normal and finding the largest group of mobs I can find, then click Defend every turn.
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:00
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Feb 12 2017, 00:55) *

Alright, now, I know the answer is just play with one-handed a bit till you get the proficiency, but if I were to say, try and speed up the gain of heavy armor prof (mine is still at about 100 ish, so I'm very squishy), does the setting matter? Because it says armor prof is gained when mobs attack you, does it matter if it's a Normal group of mobs, or one at like, say, Nintendo? Because if it doesn't matter, I'm going into Normal and finding the largest group of mobs I can find, then click Defend every turn.

Difficulty doesn't matter, i built up a lot of it in Hard SGs arenas and in IWBTH IWs.
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:00
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Higher difficulty means they're more likely to hit you, but there shouldn't be so much difference since at lower difficulties you're faster -> you encounter more monsters -> even though they hit you less, you get the same amount of hits, roughly.
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:02
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Yep, thanks! I'll probably do it on hard, then. Almost forgot about shards.
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:19
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Feb 12 2017, 00:55) *

I'm going into Normal and finding the largest group of mobs I can find, then click Defend every turn.

Nice idea, if it wasn't for the fact that you cannot gain proficiencies during Defend.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies
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Proficiencies cannot be gained during the turn the Defend, Focus, or Spirit Stance commands are used or when a player otherwise skips a turn. (Proficiencies can be gained while using Scan.)


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post Feb 12 2017, 02:21
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CRAP. REALLY? Ugh, I thought I was being smart.
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:24
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Feb 12 2017, 00:21) *

CRAP. REALLY? Ugh, I thought I was being smart.

Spam "Scan"?
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post Feb 12 2017, 02:29
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If there's any chance you'll ever want magic proficiency, I recommend training that while gaining armor prof, so you can do both at once. Otherwise, once you get past 310 and start considering mage (maybe), you might regret having used Scan instead of Weaken or other deprec. during a bunch of training sessions.

(Yeah, you'll have to use mana consumables or flee frequently to restore, but that's just how it is)
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If you want to speed up the gain of heavy armor, just play it normally, that will do.
Just don't forget to chose a playstyle that minimizes your evade/parry/block rates. Maybe you could work your arcane blow (staff proficiency) at the same time?

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post Feb 12 2017, 02:32
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Yeah, it would be the perfect period to get your staff prof up, staff prof is a pain in the ass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 12 2017, 03:00
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So heaviest armor/highest interference +burden, equip staff, cast dep? Gotcha, thanks.
The reason why I feel scan is not as good as defend/focus is because you have to click twice, and I really don't want to do that T.T
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