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Jan 2 2017, 20:00
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 2 2017, 16:08)  err , I'm not sure either for PMI coz my lvl is high enough when I removed haste from my IA ~ thanks to sapo data in the past (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) maybe around 73%~ 75% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) you know, it's not like 73% PMI is *that* low of a value...
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Jan 3 2017, 02:43
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lazyNPC
Group: Gold Star Club
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I'm not sure i understood well the wiki page on Loot Drop Rolls for Arena Clear Drops, so i'll ask here: What is the equivalent Trophy Tier of the Arena Clear Drops for the various difficulties, in the SGs Arenas and T&T?
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Jan 3 2017, 04:38
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 3 2017, 02:43)  I'm not sure i understood well the wiki page on Loot Drop Rolls for Arena Clear Drops, so i'll ask here: What is the equivalent Trophy Tier of the Arena Clear Drops for the various difficulties, in the SGs Arenas and T&T?
Its on wiki too, the only good thing is D&D on PFUDOR (minimum mag) and ~99% it would be unsalable crap (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 3 2017, 04:39
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tganimation6
Group: Gold Star Club
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Clear Drops = What you would get from shrining a T(n) trophy
Ordinarily it would be T1 for all difficulties below Nightmare, then becomes T2 on Nightmare and increases 1 tier every difficulty higher, limited by the max tier available for the arena. So for Longest Journey and above, you get only +1 tier at (Nightmare and any higher difficulty), whereas for the three highest arenas you'll get an additional +1 tier (so +2 tier) for IWBTH/PFUDOR. Dances with Dragons on PFUDOR is just T8, which should be the highest possible tier. It's kinda confusing, but I think T and T on IWBTH would be T5 since it's plus 1 tier every difficulty up. Not too sure about SGs arena (as in which one it is) but it should be a similar ranking system following the tier system and the limits. But I wrote this up while reading the wiki, so I might be getting this wrong as well, so just take this with a pinch of salt.
Edit: For the +2 tier part, I mean that for the top 3 arenas, by increasing diff to IWBTH it would increase 2 tiers instead of one, and 2 more when increasing to PFUDOR. Ah, just realised there isn't really a limit, but a max amount of tiers that can be reached (eg, highest tier for all arenas besides top 3 is 6)
This post has been edited by tganimation6: Jan 3 2017, 04:46
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Jan 3 2017, 04:55
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jackalo
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Jan 2 2017, 21:39)  Clear Drops = What you would get from shrining a T(n) trophy
Ordinarily it would be T1 for all difficulties below Nightmare, then becomes T2 on Nightmare and increases 1 tier every difficulty higher, limited by the max tier available for the arena. So for Longest Journey and above, you get only +1 tier at (Nightmare and any higher difficulty), whereas for the three highest arenas you'll get an additional +1 tier (so +2 tier) for IWBTH/PFUDOR. Dances with Dragons on PFUDOR is just T8, which should be the highest possible tier. It's kinda confusing, but I think T and T on IWBTH would be T5 since it's plus 1 tier every difficulty up. Not too sure about SGs arena (as in which one it is) but it should be a similar ranking system following the tier system and the limits. But I wrote this up while reading the wiki, so I might be getting this wrong as well, so just take this with a pinch of salt.
Edit: For the +2 tier part, I mean that for the top 3 arenas, by increasing diff to IWBTH it would increase 2 tiers instead of one, and 2 more when increasing to PFUDOR. Ah, just realised there isn't really a limit, but a max amount of tiers that can be reached (eg, highest tier for all arenas besides top 3 is 6)
so are all SG arenas on PF t8 clear bonus? i thought it was only DWD that was t8 on pf.
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Jan 3 2017, 05:00
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Juggernaut Santa
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jan 3 2017, 03:55)  so are all SG arenas on PF t8 clear bonus?
no, t7. only DwD is t8
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Jan 3 2017, 05:23
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jackalo
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 2 2017, 22:00)  no, t7. only DwD is t8
bummer, if it were t8 i would do those arenas as well but i don't know if it is worth doing over PFfest for just t7 trophy. maybe i try them for a few days and see what happens.
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Jan 3 2017, 05:54
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issary
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jan 3 2017, 11:23)  bummer, if it were t8 i would do those arenas as well but i don't know if it is worth doing over PFfest for just t7 trophy. maybe i try them for a few days and see what happens.
One T7 cup not worth it,but you can also get many trophies.
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Jan 3 2017, 09:58
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-Shun-
Group: Gold Star Club
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Would 750 hath for 3 additional crystal drops be worth it if I were to only stay on arenas?
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Jan 3 2017, 10:13
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m118w11
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Jan 3 2017, 10:58)  Would 750 hath for 3 additional crystal drops be worth it if I were to only stay on arenas?
If you mean getting Crystarium 1 and 2, it effectively triples your crystal drops for 3.75 million. So basically the time it takes for you to get ~35 crystal packs normally, it will pay for itself.
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Jan 3 2017, 11:57
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issary
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ Jan 3 2017, 16:13)  If you mean getting Crystarium 1 and 2, it effectively triples your crystal drops for 3.75 million. So basically the time it takes for you to get ~35 crystal packs normally, it will pay for itself.
So it's about 1 year to get it pays back.
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Jan 3 2017, 11:59
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-Shun-
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Hmm... maybe I'll just skip those and aim for DD instead (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Also, dat stocking stuffers price increase o.o 11x higher than its original price now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Jan 3 2017, 13:43
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Jan 3 2017, 13:46
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Larequirem
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"Actually I got quite a few data,IWBTH have legendary drop per 5k round and PFUDOR per 2k,that's a big difference"
I don't even plan to play a thousand round I just play RE(max even just 12 round per day)
as I know RE has increased and exp and drop chance(isn't it ?) so is it worth the scroll of protection btw, how much one scroll of protection cost these day ?
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Jan 3 2017, 13:56
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Larequirem @ Jan 3 2017, 12:46)  as I know RE has increased and exp and drop chance(isn't it ?)
yes. QUOTE(Larequirem @ Jan 3 2017, 12:46)  is it worth the scroll of protection
dunno, it depends on your build. may i ask you your playstyle? QUOTE(Larequirem @ Jan 3 2017, 12:46)  btw, how much one scroll of protection cost these day ?
something like 200~300C on WTB, depending on the buyer.
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Jan 3 2017, 19:47
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AnonDarkMage7
Group: Gold Star Club
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Is there any reason to bump your difficulty to as high as you can handle in early levels? I been doing Nintendo for a while, which is fine for the random encounters, but utter hell for anything else that has multiple rounds. Took me about an hour to clear a single item world (32 rounds) and had to burn up a good deal of mana and health pots to do it. Though when i switched back to Nightmare, i noticed i get credits far more often (which is a lot better than the 2x crystals i kept getting as drops seeing how there only 10 credits ea in the bazaar anyway) on top of using nearly none of my supplies. So, what exactly is the best diffculty to play on, gear and credit wise, at my level and set up? 
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Jan 3 2017, 19:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jan 3 2017, 18:47)  - snip -
are you using a Leather perhaps?
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Jan 3 2017, 20:02
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jan 3 2017, 18:47)  So, what exactly is the best diffculty to play on, gear and credit wise, at my level and set up?
Let's start by saying that managing nintendo as a mage at your level is a neat achievement and you should be proud of it. Then there's reality, since mages really shines when they have all spells/abilities/0 cooldown imperil at your level if you really want to optimize you should probably forget mage for now and come back to it after you reach level 310 (for 0 cooldown imperil). At your level the most optimized build would be 1H (so 1h weapon + shield), either with light armor or heavy armor (at your current level leather armor may be a bit better, after level 200 heavy starts being better since you can mix power armor). Difficulty isn't really important I would just select the one you feel most confortable to play. Also check the Script Thread, 99% of the users in the forums use scripts to make giving commands faster/safer. Get around and take a look.
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Jan 3 2017, 20:39
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sogeth
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 2-January 13

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Dammit. Swift strike again! Is it worth using another Amnesia shard to clear it again,but this time, after three levels of Fatality? Magnificent Shocking Rapier of BalanceGrrrrr.
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Jan 3 2017, 21:07
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(sogeth @ Jan 3 2017, 19:39)  Dammit. Swift strike again! Is it worth using another Amnesia shard to clear it again,but this time, after three levels of Fatality? Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balancefatality 3 is good and you won't use it forever. go on imo.
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Jan 3 2017, 22:21
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,473
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jan 3 2017, 18:47)  Is there any reason to bump your difficulty to as high as you can handle in early levels? I been doing Nintendo for a while, which is fine for the random encounters, but utter hell for anything else that has multiple rounds. Took me about an hour to clear a single item world (32 rounds) and had to burn up a good deal of mana and health pots to do it. Though when i switched back to Nightmare, i noticed i get credits far more often (which is a lot better than the 2x crystals i kept getting as drops seeing how there only 10 credits ea in the bazaar anyway) on top of using nearly none of my supplies. So, what exactly is the best diffculty to play on, gear and credit wise, at my level and set up?  Dude... you need a better account name! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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