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post Dec 11 2016, 09:24
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How about this dual wield persona?
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post Dec 11 2016, 09:29
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Dec 11 2016, 08:24) *

How about this dual wield persona?
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A bit better, but the PABs are wrong.
AGI is too high, and so is DEX.
AGI, DEX, STR and END should be almost even.

Equipment is OK, but swap the rapier (put it offhand) and the shortsword (put it mainhand), it will boost your damage a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 11 2016, 09:30
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Well, somehow I do think that after all the threads above, light armor is a major problem for later levels and difficulties.

So, when should I transition my light to heavy? because my heavy prof is like 19 compared to 170-ish of light. Should I just go normal, grab a round with 10+ mobs and keep scanning and healing and mana potting to get prof up?
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post Dec 11 2016, 09:31
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QUOTE(revivesaber @ Dec 11 2016, 08:30) *

Well, somehow I do think that after all the threads above, light armor is a major problem for later levels and difficulties.

So, when should I transition my light to heavy? because my heavy prof is like 19 compared to 170-ish of light. Should I just go normal, grab a round with 10+ mobs and keep scanning and healing and mana potting to get prof up?

Have you switched to 1H already?
If yes, just put heavy armor and start grinding.
Your HP tank will increase slowly, but you should already see the improvement of losing evade and boosting counters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 11 2016, 09:35
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QUOTE(revivesaber @ Dec 11 2016, 07:30) *
Well, somehow I do think that after all the threads above, light armor is a major problem for later levels and difficulties.

So, when should I transition my light to heavy? because my heavy prof is like 19 compared to 170-ish of light. Should I just go normal, grab a round with 10+ mobs and keep scanning and healing and mana potting to get prof up?
Won't work, pretty soon the monsters will start doing an annoyingly large amount of damage and you'll have to kill them or flee.

But it's really easy to get prof up just by playing normally, at least for armor, as soon as you start playing a decent amount, your prof will rise up close to your level pretty quickly.

You can keep using Light for a while if you want. The main benefit of Heavy is the ability to use Power armor, but halfway decent quality Power only becomes a slight possibility past level 250 or so. Given the other disadvantages of Heavy, if I were you I'd stick to Light for a while more.
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post Dec 11 2016, 09:50
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shade is cheaper compare with power , but you need very high upgrade to make shade good at PFUDOR especially GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 11 2016, 12:11
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What is the damage calculation on elemental strikes from a weapon (void strike, dark strike, etc.)? Is it affected by INT for damage amount or crit chance?

I can't seem to find any information about it on the wiki.
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post Dec 11 2016, 12:43
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QUOTE(huhwaht @ Dec 11 2016, 10:11) *
What is the damage calculation on elemental strikes from a weapon (void strike, dark strike, etc.)? Is it affected by INT for damage amount or crit chance?

I can't seem to find any information about it on the wiki.
It's completely physical. EDB has no effect on elemental strike damage either.
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post Dec 11 2016, 13:03
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(in order to make this post relevant to this thread: it's known that some HV players toplist for the purpose of gaining the toplist rewards such as hath and XP. I highly recommend against this, at least for those interested in the tagging toplist)
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(What's the problem with toplists?)

feel free. if there's something i don't know, i welcome you to tell me (before i lose my face too much).
This really deserves its own thread, but I don't want to attract the attention of any higher-ups (yet) because reasons, others have brought it up before. (I'm not posting this in the same thread you asked it in for the same reason)

Uploader, H@H, and cleanup toplists are fine. Rating and Reviewing toplists used to be crap ("press 100 buttons every day, get an award at the end of the year") but now they're more tolerable. EHTracker toplisters are reportedly often completely automated in addition to being vulnerable to fake completions used to increase stats.

But most people here don't read Japanese and don't want want to spend real money. Thus, we come to the most popular and most widely abused one, tagging. The main purpose of having tags is so that searchers can find what they're looking for, so it's important for them to be pretty accurate; having invalid tags means that searchers will find quite a few results that aren't what they want, and getting to the real properly tagged galleries could require going through quite a few others first.

Users get tag points for adding tags, whether they're valid or not - they don't often get downvoted. Users with the most tag points get HV XP bonuses and awards (and more mod power) at the end of the year. So, there's very little incentive for taggers to tag accurately; as long as they aren't so inaccurate to get the attention of Joe or Binglo (who aren't so active as they were in the past) and get tag-banned, they're free to keep spamming any tags they think might have a chance of not getting downvoted. But almost all users are much more likely to upvote than to downvote; conscientiously downvoting takes a lot more effort per tag than upvoting. As a result, a large majority of the 450k+ galleries have at least some invalid tags added by people who were trying to spam, or by people who add tags without reading the tag definitions first, or by people who don't understand the presence rule, or by people who didn't even bother looking at the gallery at all. Yes, that's really a thing.

People should be tagging tags because they're sure they're valid and because they want to help the site, but instead many of them are tagging for points, rewards, and power. The incentives are wrong, and as a result, a big chunk of the tagging system is completely broken. I did a big analysis of common tags [reasoningtheory.net] here - but keep in mind that the true accuracy of many tags is likely far lower than displayed, they just haven't been properly checked and downvoted yet.

The result of all of this: vigilante workers have to make posts like the following and share it among themselves to kill the invalid tags added and voted on by spammers.
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Down all the following tags: (List generated Sun, 11 Dec 2016 05:48:52 GMT, 90 galleries to go)

l:english
https://e-hentai.org/g/992908/c23926e082/ (speechless)
https://e-hentai.org/g/986754/b6c9630c2b/ (speechless)

l:speechless
https://e-hentai.org/g/962930/22931195ce/ (english)
https://e-hentai.org/g/962780/3f248a332f/ (lots of english 256+ even if first part is speechless, up language:english)
https://e-hentai.org/g/962680/844b9d1ffa/ (imageset)
https://e-hentai.org/g/876685/b7e7324df4/ (english is used)

l:text cleaned
https://e-hentai.org/g/822994/11c401925c/ (no text removed)

l:translated
https://e-hentai.org/g/491024/dfab8c4352/ (original chinese)
https://e-hentai.org/g/479204/b7e1c6a0f5/ (original chinese)

p:love live
https://e-hentai.org/g/999913/dc931b072a/ (LL sunshine)

p:yu-gi-oh
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003257/8ad6bce0cb/ (arc-v)

g:black dog
https://e-hentai.org/g/988665/6b1dc677a0/

g:crimson comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/686491/cc8bc8f869/

c:mami nogiwa, c:sachie kogure, m:sole male
https://e-hentai.org/g/997614/928da44900/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)

c:mami nogiwa, c:sachie kogure, m:sole male, f:nakadashi
https://e-hentai.org/g/951367/b13c0de3de/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)

c:mami nogiwa, c:sachie kogure, m:sole male, f:nakadashi, f:sex toys, f:x-ray
https://e-hentai.org/g/891300/1776e1146d/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)
https://e-hentai.org/g/890773/f1f98aef8f/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)

c:tomo asama
https://e-hentai.org/g/661118/b82c5dd7e1/ (3/33)
https://e-hentai.org/g/649193/2f6098516b/ (3/33)

m:anal, m:blowjob, m:nakadashi
https://e-hentai.org/g/973013/532b1d1fa6/ (2/20)

m:blood, f:blood
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004322/9304c5df11/ (expected with guro)

m:brother
https://e-hentai.org/g/1002189/5cc0fa2899/ (not yaoi)

m:frog
https://e-hentai.org/g/1002418/0cdbfeb649/

m:harem
https://e-hentai.org/g/947520/9197dba1e6/ (don't see more than one male on any page)
https://e-hentai.org/g/864631/b637054d4c/ (f:harem)
https://e-hentai.org/g/826147/fa2ce8d5df/ (group of females)

m:harem, ffm threesome
https://e-hentai.org/g/829783/6085e0cf5c/ (f:harem)

m:monster, f:cow
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003652/856f818aac/ (human, furry)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003651/cc2dc74019/ (human, furry)

m:sole male
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004759/4434fef3f5/ (p15)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004532/a43aa54f1b/ (p15)
https://e-hentai.org/g/906026/19742e0f78/ (pages 59+)

m:sole male, f:nakadashi
https://e-hentai.org/g/956422/c709e24f34/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)
https://e-hentai.org/g/920876/552186f6a8/ (p15, 3/30 nonconsecutive or less, other chars have no sexual presence)

m:transformation
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003047/a0aeba24ea/ (sudden change p8)
https://e-hentai.org/g/717788/e083d13229/ (gender bender only)

f:amputee, f:blowjob, f:impregnation, f:pregnant, f:small breasts, f:x-ray, artbook
https://e-hentai.org/g/943518/1524c3d823/ (2/30 or less, only lolis pass presence)

f:anal, f:armpit licking, f:blindfold, f:stockings, f:urination
https://e-hentai.org/g/994139/4021d9995a/ (wrong namespace, also 2/25 or less. they are thigh high boots: see p12 and p16)

f:armpit licking, f:stockings
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003035/b9d5ce2c0c/ (wrong namespace, also 2/25 or less. they are thigh high boots: see p12 and p16)
https://e-hentai.org/g/913838/448fe15f60/ (wrong namespace, also 2/25 or less. they are thigh high boots: see p12 and p16)

f:armpit licking, f:stockings, f:tickling, f:urination
https://e-hentai.org/g/849020/28c3805805/ (wrong namespace, also 2/25 or less. they are thigh high boots: see p12 and p16)

f:big breasts
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003852/f007430960/
https://e-hentai.org/g/899665/11c0c6f14c/

f:big breasts, f:blowjob, f:impregnation, f:kissing, f:small breasts
https://e-hentai.org/g/999494/1c71d4cf65/ (2/30, loli)

f:blowjob
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003060/893c22af8e/ (2/20)

f:blowjob, f:nakadashi
https://e-hentai.org/g/1001693/305d7ee4ad/ (2/20)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1001668/bc37233502/ (2/20)
https://e-hentai.org/g/970816/a7f083d838/ (2/20)

f:catgirl, f:nurse
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004619/789e25b131/ (1/25)

f:cbt
https://e-hentai.org/g/786488/38f1b2ae93/ (no futanari nor shemales)
https://e-hentai.org/g/561593/bac3f2415f/ (no futanari nor shemales)

f:cosplaying
https://e-hentai.org/g/1002913/b49f8cfa99/ (cosplay category)

f:freckles
https://e-hentai.org/g/722770/ad80aaef65/ (I see only blush lines, no freckles)
https://e-hentai.org/g/721998/a6b11687d6/ (I see only blush lines, no freckles)

f:giantess
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004916/7eb7881966/ (mice girls are small, pred is normal sized; see trash bags p1 and alley p10)

f:glasses
https://e-hentai.org/g/986971/f2af4123b9/ (2/21 nonsequential)

f:group
https://e-hentai.org/g/1001990/11328d5348/ (males always involved)

f:huge breasts
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003462/483650a926/ (not remotely)

f:kimono
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004594/f3b39cd258/ (off before sex)

f:nakadashi
https://e-hentai.org/g/860461/5306dc54ea/ (2/27)

f:nakadashi, f:unusual pupils
https://e-hentai.org/g/917863/4b17f83f56/ (2/28 or less)

f:nakadashi, f:sex toys, f:urination
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003901/5d2be877ab/ (2/28 or less)
https://e-hentai.org/g/988743/c27ef97536/ (2/28 or less)
https://e-hentai.org/g/891957/98935e8a87/ (2/28 or less)

f:parasite
https://e-hentai.org/g/532015/3570c4fdef/ (small tentacle monster, not parasite infection)

f:parasite, f:sleeping
https://e-hentai.org/g/950039/494c93deff/ (small tentacle monster, not parasite infection. 2.5/29)
https://e-hentai.org/g/540397/13595f0a46/ (small tentacle monster, not parasite infection. 2.5/29)

f:pregnant
https://e-hentai.org/g/974482/1f50103903/ (2/22)
https://e-hentai.org/g/957998/75e2113ae6/ (1)
https://e-hentai.org/g/329171/472a9e7a79/ (3/36 nonconsecutive or less)

f:pregnant, f:small breasts
https://e-hentai.org/g/999313/699688a570/ (2/30 or less, only lolis pass presence)

f:pregnant, f:small breasts, f:x-ray
https://e-hentai.org/g/503621/a242166a36/ (2/30 or less, only lolis pass presence)

f:prolapse
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003491/99b9a29bb0/ (presence?)
https://e-hentai.org/g/997569/6228d22f18/ (presence?)

f:small breasts
https://e-hentai.org/g/992896/8196463b9a/ (lolis only)
https://e-hentai.org/g/988878/ab4174fee3/ (only lolis)
https://e-hentai.org/g/550980/f0bfb7929f/ (lolis)

f:stockings
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004538/b1f7e9ec11/ (socks)
https://e-hentai.org/g/861474/efbd905f2c/ (they are thigh high boots: see p12 and p16)

f:swimsuit
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004944/1a01fed865/ (school swimsuits only)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1004582/6efa7ac1d1/ (see p70+, school swimsuit)

f:yuri
https://e-hentai.org/g/995637/9b8da9563a/ (non-h)
https://e-hentai.org/g/995154/fd2aa8a12b/ (non-h)

full color
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003054/a68c77878f/ (wtf)

misc:group
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003136/f1e3c24dc3/ (males)
https://e-hentai.org/g/978493/a0618ab4f6/ (male crossdressers)

mmf threesome
https://e-hentai.org/g/1001984/0ae7fc05f9/ (m:harem)
https://e-hentai.org/g/976085/fab2108f57/ (gangbang)

mosaic censorship
https://e-hentai.org/g/983672/ad18b0e5f3/ (full/blur)

saifi eku
https://e-hentai.org/g/292188/776cb5a4df/ (namespaced)

tankoubon
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003366/52cffc4ec7/ (Chapters 9-10 use magazine scans)

webtoon
https://e-hentai.org/g/1003437/1c5e27e1f7/
(generating lists of this size every few days isn't hard at all for those who know the tagging rules and aren't afraid to downvote)

But it still barely makes a dent in the amount of work required to get galleries up to snuff; the system makes things difficult for searchers and sucks up lots of vigilante time in exchange for benefiting the zero-effort tag spammers.

(tl;dr: if we remove some of the toplist awards and incentivize accuracy more, we can save the currently somewhat-broken tagging system)
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post Dec 11 2016, 14:19
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uhu. roger that. basically the system has a good purpose but is abused, isn't it?
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post Dec 11 2016, 16:26
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 11 2016, 12:43) *

It's completely physical. EDB has no effect on elemental strike damage either.


So does INT have any use in a melee build? The wiki's advice page says it should be level * .7, but I can't find a single calculation where INT would help someone using melee.
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post Dec 11 2016, 16:29
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QUOTE(huhwaht @ Dec 11 2016, 15:26) *

So does INT have any use in a melee build? The wiki's advice page says it should be level * .7, but I can't find a single calculation where INT would help someone using melee.

slightly bigger SP Tank for cheap.
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post Dec 11 2016, 18:41
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 11 2016, 12:03) *

(in order to make this post relevant to this thread: it's known that some HV players toplist for the purpose of gaining the toplist rewards such as hath and XP. I highly recommend against this, at least for those interested in the tagging toplist)

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(tl;dr: if we remove some of the toplist awards and incentivize accuracy more, we can save the currently somewhat-broken tagging system)


I agree. I've made the toplist for reviewing once, just because I like to review the stuff I read. There, the incentive is small and just a nice one-time bonus (platina coupon). And I tag occasionally. But there's a lot of wrong tagging around. It's just not doable to downvote everything. Tagging incentive is too high, I think the rewards should be made different.
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post Dec 11 2016, 21:37
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Is there a way to increase unassigned drops I get. I do not think I've gotten one above Average that is unassigned, all of them have a level (I think).
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post Dec 11 2016, 21:40
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Dec 11 2016, 20:37) *

Is there a way to increase unassigned drops I get. I do not think I've gotten one above Average that is unassigned, all of them have a level (I think).

It's not possible anymore to get Unassigned drops over Average.
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post Dec 11 2016, 21:46
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If I reforge an item to reset its potencies, do I lose the forged upgrades too?
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post Dec 11 2016, 21:48
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If I reforge an item to reset its potencies, do I lose the forged upgrades too?

Nope, only the Potencies.
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QUOTE(DCFulano @ Dec 11 2016, 20:46) *

If I reforge an item to reset its potencies, do I lose the forged upgrades too?

no. those will remain. though you'll lose the PXP that you earned via forging
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post Dec 11 2016, 21:52
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 11 2016, 13:48) *

Nope, only the Potencies.


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 11 2016, 13:49) *

no. those will remain. though you'll lose the PXP that you earned via forging


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Is the HV site slow today or is it my side causing the slow T/s?
I mean... it's like really excruciatingly slow today.


Maybe dem damn kids are out dare usin' mah innerwebs again.


HEY!! YA DAMN KIDS! GIT OFF MAH SIDEWALK WIT DEM DAMN SKATIE-BOARDS,
AND QUIT USIN' MAH INNERWEBS!! GIT ON! GIT ON OUTTA HERE YA DAMN WHIPPERSNAPPERS!
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