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I just shrined over 50 artifacts, got a few EDs, a bunch of points and crystals, was this a wise thing to do? I mean, if I'm playing for a long time, wouldn't it be wiser to use the artifacts instead of selling them? My credit income is... Solid, I guess. I can make about 3-7m per month, more if I get a lucky drop.
I still have a couple dozen left.

This post is mainly for Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Be flexible. Save your artifacts for 1-2 weeks or even 1 month, if you have a project that you immediately need to raise fund, sell them. If you don't, shrine them.

Schremaz would say sth like "always sell it, leave the gambling for others" in a few posts before. 'cause... you know, he's not much of a gambler

I just shrined over 50 artifacts, got a few EDs, a bunch of points and crystals, was this a wise thing to do? I mean, if I'm playing for a long time, wouldn't it be wiser to use the artifacts instead of selling them? My credit income is... Solid, I guess. I can make about 3-7m per month, more if I get a lucky drop.
I still have a couple dozen left.

well, the price of an artifact is currently... uh, something around 20k on WTB. you're (obviously) going for EDs which are valued 93k or so. EDs have a somehow small chance to pop out, but this will raise as you shrine more artifacts, since PABs amount will raise and their chance will be replaced by EDs.

what i'm not sure many people did note, is that price of artifacts in WTB is made as an average weight of all the possible rewards, so in the end you should have *pretty much* the same incoming regardless of your choice. it simply brings back to whether you like to gamble or not, and whether you like additional rewards like Hath, PABs or crystals. if you throw these ones into the balance as well, then the difference between two cases should definitely be negligible.

tl;dr: your call. not that big of a difference imo.

This post is mainly for Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

lol. let's say there are things that other experts don't/cannot possibly know, before they feel cut out of the topic. obviously, if someone knows a better way to maximize his incoming, he's willing to listen. at least i guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Schremaz would say sth like "always sell it, leave the gambling for others" in a few posts before. 'cause... you know, he's not much of a gambler

that's the standard answer for trophies. and if you allow me, i've tried to gamble enough to reach that answer. i never tried with Xmas ones though. but at that point it's even bigger of a chance to flush 350k into the toilet.

as for artifacts, on the long term it should break even regardless of the choice, so it's more like playing poker: what do you prefer between being at the flop with a couple and trying to go at the river with a tris? or collecting datas vs. preferring a granted incoming. his call - this is a game, afterall.

I shrine my artifacts every time i reach 50 units.
I get a medium of 9 Eds out of 50 artifacts.

In a very medium approximation (this really varies a lot) i get 8 artifacts out of a GF.

Takes 2 EDs to cover the stamina of 1000 rounds (for under 80 stamina).

Put the above together and mathematics tells us that it's less effective (for my rolls) to shrine my artifacts instead of selling them.

I'm still shrining them and will keep on doing so. For each their own.

My credit income is... Solid, I guess. I can make about 3-7m per month, more if I get a lucky drop.

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

The Gold Star helps, that's for sure.

Arcane Focus doesn't change the amount healed (neither does Focus).
Are you sure you didn't cast cure while channelling?
What we know is:

In my case:
with 0.1 prof factor => 8914 * (0.9X1 + 0.1X1.5) => 9359.7 (I got 9360)
with 0.58 prof factor => 8914 * (0.42X1+0.58X1.5) => 11.499 (I got 11500)
So perfectly in line with the expectations.

Unless you have a very high base HP (but at that point I cannot explain the difference between us) it's strange that you cure so much with a single cast.

Try again,got 9805.I must be wear wrong set while testing.My bad.Thank you.

I just shrined over 50 artifacts, got a few EDs, a bunch of points and crystals, was this a wise thing to do? I mean, if I'm playing for a long time, wouldn't it be wiser to use the artifacts instead of selling them? My credit income is... Solid, I guess. I can make about 3-7m per month, more if I get a lucky drop.
I still have a couple dozen left.

This post is mainly for Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

There's a lot of things to take into consideration, but every thing except PAB averages out mostly, so they're the swing vote. Basically are you willing to spend 20k on a +1 PAB? Given your income the answer is probably yes.

what i'm not sure many people did note, is that price of artifacts in WTB is made as an average weight of all the possible rewards, so in the end you should have *pretty much* the same incoming regardless of your choice. it simply brings back to whether you like to gamble or not, and whether you like additional rewards like Hath, PABs or crystals. if you throw these ones into the balance as well, then the difference between two cases should definitely be negligible.

The WTB price is the average minus a profit margin so, if you have PABs maxed and you get enough artifacts to cover variance (which considering the smallest probability is 20%, it isn't hard to do so [w/o PABs in the mix, w/ PABs the variance is a lot higher]), you should always shrine.

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

Doing all the arenas goes a long way.

I think investing in lower level gear is a poor choice though, the faster way would be to invest in exp gain which quickens your access to far better gear at cheaper prices which, imo, is the shortest route to being stronk.

And to the question of weather to gamble or to sell, I think SG trophies are pretty pointless gamble if you are not intending on getting Follower of Snowflake perk or say hoarding noodles for day0 of next patch.

Artifacts on the other hand means your giving up a good chuck of 10% portion of extra stats which you'll probably end up buying later. This goes with anything you buy/sell, especially with the price differences between WTS/WTB. Sell selectively.

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

If you do all the second page arenas @PFUDOR for a month my guess is that you should be able to get around 10M, possibly more (it also depends on the level of the trainings/perks).
3-7M is really not that much.

Try again,got 9805.I must be wear wrong set while testing.My bad.Thank you.

Ok, in line with my expectations then.
With a LHOH you would probably cure 1500HP more or something like that.
Also consider the supportive perk if you want to increase the HP cured, for 1000 haths you get 5% increase in cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

GS alone gives ~1.3m per month by itself, I get several artifacts per day (sometimes 0), and about 80 gear drops (mainly trash) that I sell in the bazaar, that's usually another 10-30k, FSM 40k per day, there's also the SG arenas that give a couple dozens of trophies in total, and thanks to Blackjac-senpai, I'm (we're) all rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) sort of.

I really don't think my income is a lot, which is why I said solid, for my level...

Edit: this Sunday I'll reset my Track Drop script and play every arena in Nintendo for 7 whole days, then post the results, or share to you via PM, just in case you're interested to see what I get in a Nintendo week.

Or I might just use income summary (will this work with what I'm doing?). How does it even work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by Chraunzen: Nov 24 2016, 18:50

Me jelly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) What stuff do you get that lets you reach 7m per month o.o

The Gold Star helps, that's for sure.

GS alone gives ~1.3m per month by itself, I get several artifacts per day (sometimes 0), and about 80 gear drops (mainly trash) that I sell in the bazaar, that's usually another 10-30k, FSM 40k per day, there's also the SG arenas that give a couple dozens of trophies in total, and thanks to Blackjac-senpai, I'm (we're) all rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) sort of.

I really don't think my income is a lot, which is why I said solid, for my level...

having a certain motivation helps for sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Artifacts on the other hand means your giving up a good chuck of 10% portion of extra stats which you'll probably end up buying later. This goes with anything you buy/sell, especially with the price differences between WTS/WTB. Sell selectively.

nice point.

The WTB price is the average minus a profit margin so, if you have PABs maxed and you get enough artifacts to cover variance (which considering the smallest probability is 20%, it isn't hard to do so [w/o PABs in the mix, w/ PABs the variance is a lot higher]), you should always shrine.

yes. of course. but that certain profit will be visible only on high amounts, i guess. too lazy to do math, but it can be easily proven.

GS alone gives ~1.3m per month by itself, I get several artifacts per day (sometimes 0), and about 80 gear drops (mainly trash) that I sell in the bazaar, that's usually another 10-30k, FSM 40k per day, there's also the SG arenas that give a couple dozens of trophies in total, and thanks to Blackjac-senpai, I'm (we're) all rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) sort of.

I really don't think my income is a lot, which is why I said solid, for my level...

I'm missing DwD from my (kinda) daily 4-5 arena runs so thats a big minus for my monthly creds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) And I barely get 2 tokens of blood per day to take FSM into account so I guess thats what I was missing too. So far I can prolly get at most 2m a month with 2 SG arenas + the 90 round arena + T&T (and if I have time the 75 round arena). SGs on hard and non SGs on Nintendo.

having a certain motivation helps for sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

As well as a better ultrabook/laptop and connection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Playing @ 0.77t/s is horrible

Which reminds me.... is it worth replacing the first 2 SG arenas with Hard DwD? Not gonna switch anytime soon since I use SG arenas to level my DW prof

This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 24 2016, 18:53

As well as a better ultrabook/laptop and connection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Playing @ 0.77t/s is horrible

connection is all. i don't play too much anymore because i have a quite flickering <1t/s on average.

Which reminds me.... is it worth replacing the first 2 SG arenas with Hard DwD? Not gonna switch anytime soon since I use SG arenas to level my DW prof

if i were you i'd try to do SGs, T&T and Eve of Death on Hard to farm trophies and tokens. then, the day after some arenas on PF (maybe T&T and less?) to farm a bit of EXP. then, returning to SGs the day after. PF FSM as soon as possible for trophies/token/drops. hybrid credits/EXP farming. something like that. you can also do whatever you want depending on the day, the only important thing is that you don't do 1k rounds at low difficulty at once.
what do you think about being our guinea pig? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

what do you think about being our guinea pig? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You gotta pay 'em first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


I just tested my ping, it's at 304 ms... God damn it, I can't really complain, I'm loading videos while playing, of course my ping will be bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by Chraunzen: Nov 24 2016, 19:09

what do you think about being our guinea pig? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think I'll pass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Might not play daily and I still need upgrades to even go for IWBTH

Edit: And the moment I mentioned IWBTH, I accidentally did an RE on IWBTH instead of Nintendo just now and died after accidentally clicking a monster 6 turns in x_x dat instant burst damage wtf

This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 24 2016, 19:16

I think I'll pass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Might not play daily and I still need upgrades to even go for IWBTH

Edit: And the moment I mentioned IWBTH, I accidentally did an RE on IWBTH instead of Nintendo just now and died after accidentally clicking a monster 6 turns in x_x dat instant burst damage wtf

How (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

You gotta pay 'em first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

what's the matter? if it's for the sake or raising datas, i think all experts should loan a hand. me included, of course.

I just tested my ping, it's at 304 ms... God damn it, I can't really complain, I'm loading videos while playing, of course my ping will be bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

never tried alt.hentaiverse.org? for certain countries it works quite good - so they say.

I think I'll pass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Might not play daily and I still need upgrades to even go for IWBTH

ah. then you may still want to do such low-difficulty arenas to farm trophies. with those arenas i mentioned, we're still speaking about 100k daily - FSM and bazaar fodder included. and 600 rounds is still well within the 1k rounds threshold. how does it sound?

I think I'll pass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Might not play daily and I still need upgrades to even go for IWBTH

Edit: And the moment I mentioned IWBTH, I accidentally did an RE on IWBTH instead of Nintendo just now and died after accidentally clicking a monster 6 turns in x_x dat instant burst damage wtf

Over Nintendo i always insta-die too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I think I'll pass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Might not play daily and I still need upgrades to even go for IWBTH

Edit: And the moment I mentioned IWBTH, I accidentally did an RE on IWBTH instead of Nintendo just now and died after accidentally clicking a monster 6 turns in x_x dat instant burst damage wtf

Why aren't you doing PFUDOR RE for Legendary drops?