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post Nov 21 2016, 12:58
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 18:56) *

Which elemental prefixes/potencies aren't really useful for armour? I'm guessing the best are holy and dark followed by fire mitigation?

No elemental prefix/potency is useful for armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 21 2016, 13:07
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 11:56) *

Which elemental prefixes/potencies aren't really useful for armour? I'm guessing the best are holy and dark followed by fire mitigation? So whats at the bottom of the list?


Damage received
Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1%

With:
32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield)
20.0 % Cold
59.3 % Elec
38.6 % Wind
37.6 % Holy
35.1 % Dark
47.3 % Crushing
60.3 % Slashing
59.9 % Piercing
0.0 % Void

Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap.
This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received).

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post Nov 21 2016, 13:47
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Looks like I'll have to make do with crappy soulfused gear until I can afford mage gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 21 2016, 14:10
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 13:07) *

Damage received
Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1%

With:
32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield)
20.0 % Cold
59.3 % Elec
38.6 % Wind
37.6 % Holy
35.1 % Dark
47.3 % Crushing
60.3 % Slashing
59.9 % Piercing
0.0 % Void

Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap.
This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received).


I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type.

We need a patch to balance the monsters.
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post Nov 21 2016, 15:07
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 13:10) *

I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type.

We need a patch to balance the monsters.

Sprites suck.
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post Nov 21 2016, 15:14
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 15:07) *

Sprites suck.

I have never memorized what monsters are sprites so I can't take them out first.
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post Nov 21 2016, 15:16
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 14:14) *

I have never memorized what monsters are sprites so I can't take them out first.

Sprites have both low health and low offensive PABS (Int, Wis)
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post Nov 21 2016, 15:25
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 18:07) *

Damage received
Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1%

With:
32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield)
20.0 % Cold
59.3 % Elec
38.6 % Wind
37.6 % Holy
35.1 % Dark
47.3 % Crushing
60.3 % Slashing
59.9 % Piercing
0.0 % Void

Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap.
This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received).


wow , I never thought that slashing damage is more frequent than piercing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 18:47) *

Looks like I'll have to make do with crappy soulfused gear until I can afford mage gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


finding staff is the most important thing to do if you want to became mage , especially good/great staff with matching prefix & suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

if you have alot of monies , it's different thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 19:10) *

I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type.

We need a patch to balance the monsters.


celestial is only good at very high power lvl plus alot of chaos upgrade against mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

still weak against melee especially high lvl and ADB 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 20:07) *

Sprites suck.


+1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 21 2016, 15:45
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 21:25) *

celestial is only good at very high power lvl plus alot of chaos upgrade against mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I thought celestial would just die in front of mage.
Or may be alive for 2 or 3 turn?
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post Nov 21 2016, 15:48
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QUOTE(issary @ Nov 21 2016, 20:45) *

I thought celestial would just die in front of mage.
Or may be alive for 2 or 3 turn?

only in very deep PFfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , in arenas or IW nearly everything is gone very fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 21 2016, 16:19
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 14:25) *

wow , I never thought that slashing damage is more frequent than piercing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

The one below are my resistances.
I posted them because the real amount of damage made by the monsters is damage received X (1/(1- resistances)).
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post Nov 21 2016, 16:52
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How much should i be willing to pay for:
-Mag Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter mid / high adb lv around 300
-Leg Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter low / mid / high adb lv around 300
Just an estimate, so i don't overpay.
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post Nov 21 2016, 17:12
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 21:19) *

The one below are my resistances.
I posted them because the real amount of damage made by the monsters is damage received X (1/(1- resistances)).


my fault here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 21 2016, 21:52) *

How much should i be willing to pay for:
-Mag Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter mid / high adb lv around 300
-Leg Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter low / mid / high adb lv around 300
Just an estimate, so i don't overpay.


err , it's hard to estimate rapier price , really depend on prefix and ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

price can jump easily from 500k to 10M+ for nearly same stats rapier but different prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

dark/holy/ethereal is more expensive than elemental prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Nov 21 2016, 17:38
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 16:12) *

err , it's hard to estimate rapier price , really depend on prefix and ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

price can jump easily from 500k to 10M+ for nearly same stats rapier but different prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

dark/holy/ethereal is more expensive than elemental prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ok, then, let me elaborate my question better.

What would be a good price for these following kinds of Rapiers, all around lv. 300:
1] Magnificent Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
2] Magnificent Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
3] Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
4] Legendary Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
5] Legendary Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
6] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
Like this, would an estimation be possible?
Thanks for the attention (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

note: ( option1 || option2 ) means i'm asking for different prices for every option.
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post Nov 21 2016, 18:08
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 21 2016, 10:38) *

Ok, then, let me elaborate my question better.

What would be a good price for these following kinds of Rapiers, all around lv. 300:
1] Magnificent Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
2] Magnificent Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
3] Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb)
4] Legendary Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
5] Legendary Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
6] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb)
Like this, would an estimation be possible?
Thanks for the attention (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

note: ( option1 || option2 ) means i'm asking for different prices for every option.


I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now?
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post Nov 21 2016, 18:13
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 21 2016, 17:08) *

I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now?

"Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m"
I don't know about prices much, and i'm asking for estimates exactly for that reason, but to me it seems you overpaid it a lot man (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Nov 21 2016, 18:18
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 21 2016, 17:08) *

I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now?

iirc yours was IWed and with decent rolls...
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post Nov 21 2016, 18:18
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Overpaying it's the only way for your level to get something not even that good.

Like I said some pages ago and I go on thinking it's, people overestimate low level stuff.
Just wait.
Don't spend 2-3 millions for a rapier that's worse than one random legendary you'll get for 50k at lv 350-400.
Just pick an exquisite slaughter or a leg with crappy suffix, unlock void strike, and stick with it for now
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post Nov 21 2016, 18:19
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 17:18) *

Like I said some pages ago and I go on thinking it's, people overestimate low level stuff.
Just wait.
Don't spend 2-3 millions for a rapier that's worse than one random legendary you'll get for 50k at lv 350-400.
Just pick an exquisite slaughter or a leg with crappy suffix, unlock void strike, and stick with it for now

funny, i guess i wrote something like that too, a few times as well.

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post Nov 21 2016, 18:22
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Hmm OFC seems quite useful even as a 1H mage, 30-70% damage after imperil for no mana cost with my measly 3.7k ADB. Wonder if I can optimize it a bit...

Slightly regretting forging my DEA shield now, you get so much defense with block + nimble waki that the extra defensive stats seem excessive.
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