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Nov 21 2016, 12:58
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 18:56)  Which elemental prefixes/potencies aren't really useful for armour? I'm guessing the best are holy and dark followed by fire mitigation?
No elemental prefix/potency is useful for armor. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 21 2016, 13:07
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 11:56)  Which elemental prefixes/potencies aren't really useful for armour? I'm guessing the best are holy and dark followed by fire mitigation? So whats at the bottom of the list?
Damage received Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1% With: 32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield) 20.0 % Cold 59.3 % Elec 38.6 % Wind 37.6 % Holy 35.1 % Dark 47.3 % Crushing 60.3 % Slashing 59.9 % Piercing 0.0 % Void Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap. This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received). This post has been edited by Sapo84: Nov 21 2016, 13:08
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Nov 21 2016, 13:47
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-Shun-
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,318
Joined: 19-November 09

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Looks like I'll have to make do with crappy soulfused gear until I can afford mage gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Nov 21 2016, 14:10
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Kiriman1
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 280
Joined: 6-May 16

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 13:07)  Damage received Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1%
With: 32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield) 20.0 % Cold 59.3 % Elec 38.6 % Wind 37.6 % Holy 35.1 % Dark 47.3 % Crushing 60.3 % Slashing 59.9 % Piercing 0.0 % Void
Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap. This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received).
I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type. We need a patch to balance the monsters.
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Nov 21 2016, 15:07
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Juggernaut Santa
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 13:10)  I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type.
We need a patch to balance the monsters.
Sprites suck.
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Nov 21 2016, 15:14
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Kiriman1
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 15:07)  Sprites suck.
I have never memorized what monsters are sprites so I can't take them out first.
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Nov 21 2016, 15:16
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Juggernaut Santa
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 14:14)  I have never memorized what monsters are sprites so I can't take them out first.
Sprites have both low health and low offensive PABS (Int, Wis)
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Nov 21 2016, 15:25
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 18:07)  Damage received Crushing: 31% / Piercing: 24% / Void: 11% / Slashing: 8% / Holy: 7% / Fire: 4% / Wind: 3% / Cold: 3% / Dark: 3% / Elec: 1%
With: 32.8 % Fire (+ fire spike shield) 20.0 % Cold 59.3 % Elec 38.6 % Wind 37.6 % Holy 35.1 % Dark 47.3 % Crushing 60.3 % Slashing 59.9 % Piercing 0.0 % Void
Basically holy and fire and acceptable, the rest are crap. This is on the work browser (I use it only for REs so speed doesn't really matter and I keep track of damage received).
wow , I never thought that slashing damage is more frequent than piercing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 21 2016, 18:47)  Looks like I'll have to make do with crappy soulfused gear until I can afford mage gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) finding staff is the most important thing to do if you want to became mage , especially good/great staff with matching prefix & suffix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) if you have alot of monies , it's different thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 21 2016, 19:10)  I think Celestials and Sprites having the highest power according to MonsterLab wiki is the reason why most people would choose those monster type.
We need a patch to balance the monsters.
celestial is only good at very high power lvl plus alot of chaos upgrade against mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) still weak against melee especially high lvl and ADB 1H (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 20:07)  Sprites suck.
+1 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 21 2016, 15:26
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Nov 21 2016, 15:45
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issary
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 21:25)  celestial is only good at very high power lvl plus alot of chaos upgrade against mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I thought celestial would just die in front of mage. Or may be alive for 2 or 3 turn?
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Nov 21 2016, 15:48
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(issary @ Nov 21 2016, 20:45)  I thought celestial would just die in front of mage. Or may be alive for 2 or 3 turn?
only in very deep PFfest (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) well , in arenas or IW nearly everything is gone very fast (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 21 2016, 16:19
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 14:25)  wow , I never thought that slashing damage is more frequent than piercing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The one below are my resistances. I posted them because the real amount of damage made by the monsters is damage received X (1/(1- resistances)).
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Nov 21 2016, 16:52
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lazyNPC
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How much should i be willing to pay for: -Mag Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter mid / high adb lv around 300 -Leg Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter low / mid / high adb lv around 300 Just an estimate, so i don't overpay.
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Nov 21 2016, 17:12
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 21 2016, 21:19)  The one below are my resistances. I posted them because the real amount of damage made by the monsters is damage received X (1/(1- resistances)).
my fault here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 21 2016, 21:52)  How much should i be willing to pay for: -Mag Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter mid / high adb lv around 300 -Leg Prefixed Rapier of Slaughter low / mid / high adb lv around 300 Just an estimate, so i don't overpay.
err , it's hard to estimate rapier price , really depend on prefix and ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) price can jump easily from 500k to 10M+ for nearly same stats rapier but different prefix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dark/holy/ethereal is more expensive than elemental prefix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 21 2016, 17:38
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lazyNPC
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 21 2016, 16:12)  err , it's hard to estimate rapier price , really depend on prefix and ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) price can jump easily from 500k to 10M+ for nearly same stats rapier but different prefix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dark/holy/ethereal is more expensive than elemental prefix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Ok, then, let me elaborate my question better. What would be a good price for these following kinds of Rapiers, all around lv. 300: 1] Magnificent Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 2] Magnificent Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 3] Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 4] Legendary Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) 5] Legendary Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) 6] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) Like this, would an estimation be possible? Thanks for the attention (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) note: ( option1 || option2 ) means i'm asking for different prices for every option.
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Nov 21 2016, 18:08
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SincSoul
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 477
Joined: 21-August 16

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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 21 2016, 10:38)  Ok, then, let me elaborate my question better. What would be a good price for these following kinds of Rapiers, all around lv. 300: 1] Magnificent Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 2] Magnificent Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 3] Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( mid || high adb) 4] Legendary Elemental Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) 5] Legendary Holy/Dark Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) 6] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter ( low || mid || high adb) Like this, would an estimation be possible? Thanks for the attention (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) note: ( option1 || option2 ) means i'm asking for different prices for every option. I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now?
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Nov 21 2016, 18:13
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lazyNPC
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 21 2016, 17:08)  I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now? "Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m" I don't know about prices much, and i'm asking for estimates exactly for that reason, but to me it seems you overpaid it a lot man (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Nov 21 2016, 18:13
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Nov 21 2016, 18:18
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 21 2016, 17:08)  I just bought a Mag Eth Rapier of Slaughter for 1.5m and I'm not even sure if I did right (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but if that was cheap then you're probably going to fork over a lot of credits, you should wait a bit more... How much money you got right now? iirc yours was IWed and with decent rolls...
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Nov 21 2016, 18:18
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Juggernaut Santa
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Overpaying it's the only way for your level to get something not even that good.
Like I said some pages ago and I go on thinking it's, people overestimate low level stuff. Just wait. Don't spend 2-3 millions for a rapier that's worse than one random legendary you'll get for 50k at lv 350-400. Just pick an exquisite slaughter or a leg with crappy suffix, unlock void strike, and stick with it for now
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Nov 21 2016, 18:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 17:18)  Like I said some pages ago and I go on thinking it's, people overestimate low level stuff. Just wait. Don't spend 2-3 millions for a rapier that's worse than one random legendary you'll get for 50k at lv 350-400. Just pick an exquisite slaughter or a leg with crappy suffix, unlock void strike, and stick with it for now
funny, i guess i wrote something like that too, a few times as well. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 21 2016, 18:20
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Nov 21 2016, 18:22
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kyouri
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 1,012
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Hmm OFC seems quite useful even as a 1H mage, 30-70% damage after imperil for no mana cost with my measly 3.7k ADB. Wonder if I can optimize it a bit...
Slightly regretting forging my DEA shield now, you get so much defense with block + nimble waki that the extra defensive stats seem excessive.
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