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Hello, all! I'm a lurker slowly coming out. I've a goal, though, that I need some help with: I want to take down the Flying Spaghetti Monster at level 100 as a melee fighter (on normal).

Here's a link to my [i573.photobucket.com] Character build, [i573.photobucket.com] Abilities, and [i573.photobucket.com] Training. (They're links because I'm not sure what the proper etiquette for image posting in this thread is.)

My equipment:
Fine Mace of Slaughter
Fine Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
Fine Shade Breastplate of the Arcanist
Average Leather Gauntlets of Negation
Average Shade Leggings of Negation
Superior Shade Boots of the Arcanist

I'm planning on keeping/upgrading the boots as I grow. The gauntlets and the leggings will get upgraded Soon™.

I've got 5 Tokens of Blood right now, and I'm hopeful that I'll get a sixth, so I can have a second shot should I fail the first.

My unlocked Auras are Red, Orange, Yellow, and Green, all at rank 2.

My plan is to find a really nice club and rapier and grind like mad on GrindFest at Easy difficulty to build up my dual-wielding proficiency. I plan on building up my deprecating proficiency in Arenas at normal difficulty, and if that doesn't build it up high enough then I'll burn through my stockpile of Average/Greater Mana pots in the GrindFest.

I'd also like to get a stockpile of Scrolls of Life, Scrolls of the Avatar, and Scrolls of the Gods, but I'm not sure if I'd have enough money to have a large enough cache of them. Or how big a cache I'd need. I've got nearly a dozen Infusions of Divinity, but not sure what other Infusions I might want to utilize.

Stats: I plan on keeping Endurance at +10 level, Strength and Dex equal to my current level, and Agi at -5 of current level. Not sure what to do with Intelligence or Wisdom.

For training, I plan on pushing Ability Boost after equipment upgrades.

So, questions:

Do Infusions stack? Like, Infusion of Divinity and Infusion of Darkness?
For scrolls with multiple castings, like Scroll of the Avatar, are all of the effects of the same duration?
Which scrolls would I be better off with?
Do scrolls and infusions refill inside the battle?
Would I be better suited to bring Mana Elixirs instead of Godly Mana Pots?
What other elements am I missing?

What am I getting myself into? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

1. Do Infusions stack? Like, Infusion of Divinity and Infusion of Darkness?
2. For scrolls with multiple castings, like Scroll of the Avatar, are all of the effects of the same duration?
3. Which scrolls would I be better off with?
4. Do scrolls and infusions refill inside the battle?
5. Would I be better suited to bring Mana Elixirs instead of Godly Mana Pots?
6. What other elements am I missing?

What am I getting myself into? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

1. Nope they don't stack.
2/3. As you are using light armor, you probably won't need many types of scroll provided you get the correct supportive spells, eg. haste, shadow veil, protection. However if you are doing ROB without spark of life, you probably want scroll of life/god. Before you get silence you need weaken/poison/bewilder.
4. Yes, but you must set them to be "auto" in your item section.
5. Godly ones will do, bring one elixir just in case. Remember to bring one or two spirit potions as well (for spark/scroll of life).
6. What do you mean exactly?

This post has been edited by MidNightPass: Oct 9 2011, 22:28

Do Infusions stack? Like, Infusion of Divinity and Infusion of Darkness?
Nope. Using a second infusion will override the first.

For scrolls with multiple castings, like Scroll of the Avatar, are all of the effects of the same duration?
Nope.
For Scroll of the Avatar: Barrier and Shield have the same duration. Haste is about 20 turns shorter.
Scroll of the Gods: Spark of life and Absorption have the same duration. Shadow Veil is about 30 turns shorter.

Which scrolls would I be better off with?
I don't think scrolls are really necessary, but a few Scrolls of the Gods should help.

Do scrolls and infusions refill inside the battle?
Yes.

Would I be better suited to bring Mana Elixirs instead of Godly Mana Pots?
If you got them, yes. They're not really necessary though.

What other elements am I missing?
Infusions of Divinity should be all you need if you want to speed things up.

What am I getting myself into?
Don't expect too much. Keep him silenced and it will be a long and boring fight.
Edit: Forgot Silence is a level 110 spell. You'll have to use Bewilder/Weaken instead and have spark of life active at all times.

This post has been edited by roadgray: Oct 9 2011, 22:41

1. Nope they don't stack.
2. As you are using light armor, you probably won't need many types of scroll provided you get the correct supportive spells, eg. haste, shadow veil, protection. However if you are doing ROB without spark of life, you probably want scroll of life/god. Before you get silence you need weaken/poison/bewilder.
3. Godly will do, bring one elixir just in case. Remember to bring one or two spirit potions as well.
4. What do you mean exactly?

2) That's part of the idea for pushing Ability Boost, to get Spark of Life, Health and Mana tanks maxed while still at L100.

The deprecating spells I'll want to have maxed are Slow, Poison, Weaken, and Bewilder?

4) Battle item slots don't refill while in battle. What you bring is what you have. Do the scroll and infusion slots refill while in battle?

Scrolls and Infusions can refill in-battle, as long as you set them to do so.

Awesome! Thanks a bunch for all the info.

Hello, all! I'm a lurker slowly coming out. I've a goal, though, that I need some help with: I want to take down the Flying Spaghetti Monster at level 100 as a melee fighter (on normal).

Here's a link to my [i573.photobucket.com] Character build, [i573.photobucket.com] Abilities, and [i573.photobucket.com] Training. (They're links because I'm not sure what the proper etiquette for image posting in this thread is.)

My equipment:
Fine Mace of Slaughter
Fine Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
Fine Shade Breastplate of the Arcanist
Average Leather Gauntlets of Negation
Average Shade Leggings of Negation
Superior Shade Boots of the Arcanist

I'm planning on keeping/upgrading the boots as I grow. The gauntlets and the leggings will get upgraded Soon™.

I've got 5 Tokens of Blood right now, and I'm hopeful that I'll get a sixth, so I can have a second shot should I fail the first.

My unlocked Auras are Red, Orange, Yellow, and Green, all at rank 2.

My plan is to find a really nice club and rapier and grind like mad on GrindFest at Easy difficulty to build up my dual-wielding proficiency. I plan on building up my deprecating proficiency in Arenas at normal difficulty, and if that doesn't build it up high enough then I'll burn through my stockpile of Average/Greater Mana pots in the GrindFest.

I'd also like to get a stockpile of Scrolls of Life, Scrolls of the Avatar, and Scrolls of the Gods, but I'm not sure if I'd have enough money to have a large enough cache of them. Or how big a cache I'd need. I've got nearly a dozen Infusions of Divinity, but not sure what other Infusions I might want to utilize.

Stats: I plan on keeping Endurance at +10 level, Strength and Dex equal to my current level, and Agi at -5 of current level. Not sure what to do with Intelligence or Wisdom.

For training, I plan on pushing Ability Boost after equipment upgrades.

So, questions:

Do Infusions stack? Like, Infusion of Divinity and Infusion of Darkness?
For scrolls with multiple castings, like Scroll of the Avatar, are all of the effects of the same duration?
Which scrolls would I be better off with?
Do scrolls and infusions refill inside the battle?
Would I be better suited to bring Mana Elixirs instead of Godly Mana Pots?
What other elements am I missing?

What am I getting myself into? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I recommend having at least 5 Avatar Scrolls, 10 if you want to be safe. Likewise, 10 scrolls of Spark would be a minimum, probably 20 to be safe. I personally just used a Mace (I beat it at level 101), because the stun effect worked fine, and it still hit very high. I would recommend getting a Soul Stone and using it (AFTER you have 100% overcharge, or whatever your max is), you can buy one at dcherry's thread for 1,300C.

Infusions do not stack - use the Divinities, as those are its weakness. For the Scroll of the Avatar, the effect Haste lasts less time than shield and barrier (30 turns less), just make sure you have those, sparks, and possibly shadows if you really want to be safe. Remember to bring one (preferably superior) Spirit Potion (for spark of life). Scrolls and infusions do refill in battle, and I would recommend bringing perhaps 2 Elixirs and the rest (excepting the soul stone) as Godlies, using the Elixirs last. Scrolls of the Gods are a little bit overkill, and make sure you use Weaken and Poison on it. Use poison when its MP and Spirit aren't full, and keep them on it whenever its MP or SP aren't full.

The rest sounds fine.

Edit: You may also want to find out how much damage your spirit attack does, because then if you are using that add-on that displays enemy health, you can use it to end the battle earlier.

This post has been edited by Spartan0021: Oct 10 2011, 01:25

I recommend having at least 5 Avatar Scrolls, 10 if you want to be safe. Likewise, 10 scrolls of Spark would be a minimum, probably 20 to be safe. I personally just used a Mace (I beat it at level 101), because the stun effect worked fine, and it still hit very high. I would recommend getting a Soul Stone and using it (AFTER you have 100% overcharge, or whatever your max is), you can buy one at dcherry's thread for 1,300C.

Infusions do not stack - use the Divinities, as those are its weakness. For the Scroll of the Avatar, the effect Haste lasts less time than shield and barrier (I believe either 25 or 50 turns less), just make sure you have those, sparks, and possibly shadows if you really want to be safe. Scrolls and infusions do refill in battle, and I would recommend bringing perhaps 2 Elixirs and the rest (excepting the soul stone) as Godlies, using the Elixirs last. Scrolls of the Gods are a little bit overkill.

The rest sounds fine.

I really don't think soul stone is necessary at normal difficulty.

I really don't think soul stone is necessary at normal difficulty.

It's really not, but it makes the fight a good deal faster, and it's good to bring if you're going in for the first time. The extra 33% damage is worth a lot more than a mana pot, IMO.

It's really not, but it makes the fight a good deal faster, and it's good to bring if you're going in for the first time. The extra 33% damage is worth a lot more than a mana pot, IMO.

For soul stone to be effective he would need to spend a lot more APs on spirit and OC tanks, but I don't think he will have sufficient APs to do so.

For soul stone to be effective he would need to spend a lot more APs on spirit and OC tanks, but I don't think he will have sufficient APs to do so.

...What?

Edit: To clarify:
I think you have how it works wrong. It just straight up gives you +100 OC, meaning 100 will be made into 200, or 150 will be made into 250. Regardless of your OC or AP tanks, it gives you +33% damage (so long as you use it AFTER your OC % is maxed in the current battle).

And for me, that +33% damage makes the fight that much faster (which means it hits me that much less).

This post has been edited by Spartan0021: Oct 10 2011, 01:48

Apart from chainmail being hard to get due to it being phased out, there is no real point in it either.
Yes, it is a heavy armor with worse aborption/mitigation than plate, and with less interference/burden.
But then you have kevlar light armor instead, which has absorption/mitigation on par with chainmail (if not superior even), but with much less interference/burden, and has resistance and evasion to boot (never seen resistance bonus on chainmmail).

I've been collecting Plate and Chain with resist, actually. Some of it is worthwhile (the Shield Greaves, I should think) and the rest of it I'm still trying to determine.

Chainmail with Resist:
Head: Fair Chainmail Coif of Warding
Head: Fair Chainmail Coif of Protection
Torso: Average Chainmail Hauberk of Protection
Hands: Average Chainmail Mitons of Warding
Legs: Average Chainmail Chausses of the Frost-Born

Plate Mail with Resist:
Torso: Average Plate Cuirass of Warding
Legs: Average Shield Greaves of Warding

This post has been edited by Rootzor: Oct 10 2011, 02:21

For soul stone to be effective he would need to spend a lot more APs on spirit and OC tanks, but I don't think he will have sufficient APs to do so.

Offtopic: by the way you seem to be leveling up pretty fast. I remember you being "smaller" than me xD

Offtopic: by the way you seem to be leveling up pretty fast. I remember you being "smaller" than me xD

lol
You have the stars and rainbow aura though, something I don't have.
If you want to, you can level hell a lot faster than me.

Spartan0021:
You are probably right then.

This post has been edited by MidNightPass: Oct 10 2011, 03:25

So, new question.

What trophies should I turn in when? I'm assuming I should save FSM noodles until I'm a very high level, but from the level 100+ arenas I'm starting to accumulate a fair number of Mithra, Dalek, etc. trophies, and I have each RoB trophy.

So, new question.

What trophies should I turn in when? I'm assuming I should save FSM noodles until I'm a very high level, but from the level 100+ arenas I'm starting to accumulate a fair number of Mithra, Dalek, etc. trophies, and I have each RoB trophy.

One question you shall ask yourself, why turning in the trophies?
You can get most equipments from WTS threads with high levels.

One question you shall ask yourself, why turning in the trophies?
You can get most equipments from WTS threads with high levels.

I'm guessing that I'll get an average price of 300C per equipment received, whereas the trophies (all the lower ones) sell for only 200C.

As well, I see many people who have stated they received some of the best equipment I've seen from the shrine (although those may well have been higher-level trophies).

In conclusion, I've never sold an equipment to the bazaar that was worth less than 179, so why not?

Edit: And the equipment scales by level, so higher levels would imply better equipment.

This post has been edited by Spartan0021: Oct 10 2011, 03:44

I'm guessing that I'll get an average price of 300C per equipment received, whereas the trophies (all the lower ones) sell for only 200C.

As well, I see many people who have stated they received some of the best equipment I've seen from the shrine (although those may well have been higher-level trophies).

In conclusion, I've never sold an equipment to the bazaar that was worth less than 179, so why not?

The fact is, the later you turn them in the higher value they have. You probably want to look for high level stuff from WTS for longer usage. Honestly I won't turn them in unless you want something badly which is very rare. eg. ethereal mace.

Anyway, it's a personal choice.

lol
You have the stars and rainbow aura though, something I don't have.
If you want to, you can level hell a lot faster than me.

A-yup, I missed about three weeks of leveling for now. I've been trying to gather up that 500 hath amount.
As for trophies, I'd turn them in any day. Assuming my own "luck" I will never ever get a piece of equipment which will be worthy WTSing instead of throwing it to Akara for ~800 cr.

I'm guessing that I'll get an average price of 300C per equipment received, whereas the trophies (all the lower ones) sell for only 200C.

As well, I see many people who have stated they received some of the best equipment I've seen from the shrine (although those may well have been higher-level trophies).

In conclusion, I've never sold an equipment to the bazaar that was worth less than 179, so why not?

Edit: And the equipment scales by level, so higher levels would imply better equipment.

I personally am keeping all my trophies for much later.