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When does an upgrade need a higher quality catalyst?
I noticed that it changed at upgrade level 9 and 13. When are the next breakpoints?
Or is it perhaps random / dependant to its quality?

This post has been edited by FabulousCupcake: Mar 8 2016, 10:10

When does an upgrade need a higher quality catalyst?
I noticed that it changed at upgrade level 9 and 13. When are the next breakpoints?
Or is it perhaps random / dependant to its quality?

usually 1-12 , 13-25 , 26-50 for max upgrade is 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

for max upgrade is 100 , 1-25 , 26-50 , 51-100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

When does an upgrade need a higher quality catalyst?
I noticed that it changed at upgrade level 9 and 13. When are the next breakpoints?
Or is it perhaps random / dependant to its quality?

Here is the chart for Legendary equipment, should be accurate as far as I know:

Credits from chart to Cats Lover, according to Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Here is the chart for Legendary equipment, should be accurate as far as I know:

Credits from chart to Cats Lover, according to Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Many thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
We should research this more and put it in the wiki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm running Dual-wield fight style with heavy armor equipped, what stats should i be looking at?

You might want to consider trying 1h if you haven't already, in very few levels you'll start taking heavy incoming damage, which DW doesn't have the defense to withstand, or at least not comfortably.

But if you do want to play DW/heavy armor, try Str = Dex = End = Wis. Agi can be at ~8/10ths of your level, and Int at 6/10ths. Playstyle and individual equipment quality generally matters a lot more than PAB distribution, though.

The cause of the price doubling is the ~halved rate of ED from artifacts

is it? didn't know it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

well, i guess it's better to sell artifacts than to go for EDs at this point...

damn, i should've converted my stock of artifacts before the patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

41 arti - 9 ed. Seems fine.

41 arti - 9 ed. Seems fine.

Wait, are you saying you got 9 ED from 41 arti or your just saying price of 41 arti = price of 9 ED?

Wait, are you saying you got 9 ED from 41 arti or your just saying price of 41 arti = price of 9 ED?

i guess he earned 9 EDs from 41 artifact. quite lucky, i'd say.

Accumulated rewards for 2 months

CODE

Precursor Artifact (5000)

    [174] 1000x Crystal of Corruption
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Cunning
    [175] 1000x Crystal of Devotion
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Finesse
    [149] 1000x Crystal of Flames
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
    [152] 1000x Crystal of Frost
    [191] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
    [171] 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
    [187] 1000x Crystal of Tempest
    [201] 1000x Crystal of Vigor
    [961] 2 Hath
    [935] Energy Drink
    [1022] Last Elixir

Accumulated rewards for 2 months

CODE

Precursor Artifact (5000)

    [174] 1000x Crystal of Corruption
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Cunning
    [175] 1000x Crystal of Devotion
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Finesse
    [149] 1000x Crystal of Flames
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
    [152] 1000x Crystal of Frost
    [191] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
    [171] 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
    [187] 1000x Crystal of Tempest
    [201] 1000x Crystal of Vigor
    [961] 2 Hath
    [935] Energy Drink
    [1022] Last Elixir

slightly less than 20%, while mozilla was slightly higher. are we sure ED ratio has been nerfed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Accumulated rewards for 2 months

CODE

Precursor Artifact (5000)

    [174] 1000x Crystal of Corruption
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Cunning
    [175] 1000x Crystal of Devotion
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Finesse
    [149] 1000x Crystal of Flames
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
    [152] 1000x Crystal of Frost
    [191] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
    [171] 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
    [187] 1000x Crystal of Tempest
    [201] 1000x Crystal of Vigor
    [961] 2 Hath
    [935] Energy Drink
    [1022] Last Elixir

Interesting, so its not actually 20% for ED? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Accumulated rewards for 2 months

CODE

Precursor Artifact (5000)

    [174] 1000x Crystal of Corruption
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Cunning
    [175] 1000x Crystal of Devotion
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Finesse
    [149] 1000x Crystal of Flames
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
    [152] 1000x Crystal of Frost
    [191] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
    [171] 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
    [187] 1000x Crystal of Tempest
    [201] 1000x Crystal of Vigor
    [961] 2 Hath
    [935] Energy Drink
    [1022] Last Elixir

You play too much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Many thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
We should research this more and put it in the wiki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm surprised the information isn't in the wiki already. I guess the problem is that different qualities of equipment require different materials to upgrade, so the list/chart would be very long. However, I think Legendary equipment is by far the most common quality that players upgrade.

Not likely, though not impossible.

The cause of the price doubling is the ~halved rate of ED from artifacts, which was probably intentional combined with introduction of the LGBD perk. Like many other changes with crystals, repair materials, etc, it's to get people to buy back what they already had so more people spend on hath sinks. A dick move, but that's the whole point of HV, so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Is the ED drop nerf officially written somewhere?

I think that the ED drop rate (and the Stamina system) also acts as a mechanic that creates artificial longevity to the game. The road to 500 is long, but without the Stamina system players could probably level much faster. By restricting ED availability you also slow down the leveling of players. Level bound equipment has similar effect.

I shrined 1300 a couple months ago and got 160 ED.

slightly less than 20%, while mozilla was slightly higher. are we sure ED ratio has been nerfed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I thought so given my own stats and the skyrocketing ED price... well, if not, then what's the real reason behind the more than doubling in ED price?

Accumulated rewards for 2 months

CODE

Precursor Artifact (5000)

    [174] 1000x Crystal of Corruption
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Cunning
    [175] 1000x Crystal of Devotion
    [178] 1000x Crystal of Finesse
    [149] 1000x Crystal of Flames
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
    [152] 1000x Crystal of Frost
    [191] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
    [163] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
    [171] 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
    [187] 1000x Crystal of Tempest
    [201] 1000x Crystal of Vigor
    [961] 2 Hath
    [935] Energy Drink
    [1022] Last Elixir

Wow, shrining frenzy!
When was this collected anyway?

Interesting, so its not actually 20% for ED? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I found something strange about ED from artifacts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

shrine more than 1000 artifacts since jan 2016 ~ mostly come from djack and super shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I got more ED from shrine it manually ~ via click space in keyboard ~ compare with using HV item manager
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I shrined 1300 a couple months ago and got 160 ED.
I thought so given my own stats and the skyrocketing ED price... well, if not, then what's the real reason behind the more than doubling in ED price?

But we need artifact data from the old times, and one more from just after the ED perk. So we can see if there is any stealth nerf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I shrined 1300 a couple months ago and got 160 ED.
I thought so given my own stats and the skyrocketing ED price... well, if not, then what's the real reason behind the more than doubling in ED price?

The real and simple reason is that supply is smaller than demand. Players will burn much more than 10 Stamina before they get one Energy Drink from dropped Artifacts, at least I do.

I think one of the main reasons why the ED price keeps going up is the fast clearing times with the current HV equipment. For a long time I could hardly understand why some people bought ED so much, when I couldn't even get my Stamina below 80 on most days. It would take several hours to clear that many rounds. Now I can play so much faster even on PFUDOR that it doesn't take too long to burn 10-20 Stamina.