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post Aug 28 2011, 23:25
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 28 2011, 15:07) *

And here I am, oh_so_very_proud of my bleed that ticks for up to 1600 damage per turn...
And then here I am, picking up by a mistake a Slaughter Estoc with 196 ilvl.
And after that here I am:
5 1 You crit Holy Bell for 11523 piercing damage.
AW COME ON! I USED THE WRONG WEAPON ALL THIS TIME?! SERIOUSLY?!
WTB a Void Slaughter Estoc, a good one.
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Any procs/buffs/debuffs associated with that damage?

Also, what's the average HP from mobs around your level?

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post Aug 28 2011, 23:28
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Is it worth it to use items that are way over my level, and just grow into them? Like my weapons are in the high 100's and mid 200's. The modifiers in () are higher than anything at my own level.
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post Aug 28 2011, 23:33
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QUOTE(Zilveari @ Aug 29 2011, 01:28) *

Is it worth it to use items that are way over my level, and just grow into them? Like my weapons are in the high 100's and mid 200's. The modifiers in () are higher than anything at my own level.

Yes, because you don't need to level it up by yourself.
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post Aug 28 2011, 23:52
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And one more while I'm at it. While my arenas are on cooldown, how should I level?

Grindfest or Item World, and should I set my difficulty as high as I can handle, or lowest?

Should I use the hardest difficulty I can handle in Arena, or something easier?
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post Aug 28 2011, 23:55
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QUOTE(Koudesu @ Aug 29 2011, 00:25) *

Any procs/buffs/debuffs associated with that damage?

Also, what's the average HP from mobs around your level?

Nothing, except Penetrated Armor.

0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=9540 (Skwisgaar Skwigelf) LV=217 HP=11440
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=3762 (Mother Monster) LV=216 HP=11468
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=8642 (Chibi Ryu) LV=217 HP=12916
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=8049 (Hastur) LV=217 HP=12476
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=10389 (Teeeen) LV=220 HP=13008
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=5892 (Freudia Neuwahl) LV=217 HP=11352
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=10892 (Mare S Ephemeral) LV=219 HP=12420
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=1356 (Miyako) LV=216 HP=11044
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #26 (Round 79 / 90) ...
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:02
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Is that on Heroic? To be honest, I could only expect that kind of damage on what I believe is a Celestial mob. On Giants and Zombies, I would prefer bleed instead...

Unless level 200+ is some sort of heavenly salvation from the lumbering oafs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:03
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at 200+ there are a lot more humanoids
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:04
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 28 2011, 16:03) *

at 200+ there are a lot more humanoids


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post Aug 29 2011, 00:06
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QUOTE(Koudesu @ Aug 28 2011, 16:04) *

OHYESMUSTREACH200


once you hit 190 giants and zombies aren't really a threat anymore.
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:08
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QUOTE(Koudesu @ Aug 29 2011, 01:02) *

Is that on Heroic? To be honest, I could only expect that kind of damage on what I believe is a Celestial mob. On Giants and Zombies, I would prefer bleed instead...

Unless level 200+ is some sort of heavenly salvation from the lumbering oafs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Nightmare atm
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:10
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What's at 190?

If I had to say, the Giants and Machines are the ones that hit the hardest. Then again, I need to setup a good kevlar set before I can actually say anything more specific.
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:13
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Spiritshield. Which makes giants nothing more than very slow big hp nuisances. Pirate Bird/Eila/Neptuna/Lise. Those are probably the 4 biggest threats to me right now

e:
note that's 1 avion, 1 sprite, 2 humanoids

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post Aug 29 2011, 00:14
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QUOTE(Koudesu @ Aug 29 2011, 00:04) *
OHYESMUSTREACH200

Humanoids that can dish out 700 damage per turn on Normal and just love double hitting you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 29 2011, 00:13) *
Neptunia

I just discovered that she dies like a rat when you hit her with darkness.
Feels good.

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post Aug 29 2011, 00:29
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I don't really feel much of a difference in damage between difficulty levels, only HP amounts, oddly enough. Maybe my level's still a bit too low?
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post Aug 29 2011, 00:54
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 29 2011, 04:07) *

And here I am, oh_so_very_proud of my bleed that ticks for up to 1600 damage per turn...
And then here I am, picking up by a mistake a Slaughter Estoc with 196 ilvl.
And after that here I am:
5 1 You crit Holy Bell for 11523 piercing damage.
AW COME ON! I USED THE WRONG WEAPON ALL THIS TIME?! SERIOUSLY?!
WTB a Void Slaughter Estoc, a good one.
=_____________________=


I told you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If you manage to get an eth estoc of slaughter (the one that offer to you in your WTB is good enough), the next thing is to get a full shade of shadowdancer with good crit and ADM and overall stats. Use Haste + SP Shield as your main support spell and you would be pretty much invincible.
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post Aug 29 2011, 01:56
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QUOTE(buktore @ Aug 29 2011, 01:54) *

Please, allow me to be a smartass...
I told you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If you manage to get an eth estoc of slaughter (the one that offer to you in your WTB is good enough), the next thing is to get a full shade of shadowdancer with good crit and ADM and overall stats. Use Haste + SP Shield as your main support spell and you would be pretty much invincible.

Yeah yeah I know.
I simply had no problem with enemy shield ratings so I did not notice any DPS increase with Estoc that day. Then I reached 150+ and jumped right into 3_or_even_4_giants_per_round stuff.
Void estoc, must lewt~~
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post Aug 29 2011, 02:57
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 28 2011, 17:13) *

Spiritshield. Which makes giants nothing more than very slow big hp nuisances. Pirate Bird/Eila/Neptuna/Lise. Those are probably the 4 biggest threats to me right now

e:
note that's 1 avion, 1 sprite, 2 humanoids
QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 28 2011, 17:14) *
I just discovered that she dies like a rat when you hit her with darkness.
Feels good.

That's because Neptunia is a Celestial, not a Sprite.

Well, no matter, but it looks like Sprites are also weak to Dark.

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post Aug 29 2011, 04:57
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 29 2011, 01:51) *

Suddenly I remembered a question to ask.
Did you guys use full debuff on schoolgirls? Or which spells you're using on them?


On normal difficulty + great status, spam Magic Missile for CM > Nerf > ~6 shot w/ Banish spam. Haven't really noticed the magic damage boost from Bewilder. I spam Soul Burst on Konata (if I get too many of these I'll regen on one). Usually though I'll chew through around 13 mana pots per run without stopping to ET (final round excepted).

QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 29 2011, 05:07) *

And here I am, oh_so_very_proud of my bleed that ticks for up to 1600 damage per turn...
And then here I am, picking up by a mistake a Slaughter Estoc with 196 ilvl.
And after that here I am:
5 1 You crit Holy Bell for 11523 piercing damage.
AW COME ON! I USED THE WRONG WEAPON ALL THIS TIME?! SERIOUSLY?!
WTB a Void Slaughter Estoc, a good one.
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Celestials are kinda squishy, my Magic Missile crits them for ~8K.
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post Aug 29 2011, 06:01
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oops. for some reason i kept thinking neptuna was a sprite. w/e. i just remember the bitch hits harder than i expect and nulls holy/lightning and is weak vs dark
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post Aug 29 2011, 06:13
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:50) *

I didn't expect it'd save me much mana when I got it, but it actually did. I guess the turns spent on buff recasting/channelling add up. Mostly though it's convenient having less overhead. IW's smoother, only need to refresh Regen2 (and AF once @ round ~200-ish).


I guess it's the 15% less mana upkeep cost that makes the difference.


QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 29 2011, 05:07) *

AW COME ON! I USED THE WRONG WEAPON ALL THIS TIME?! SERIOUSLY?!


Yes, even I know that estoc is better for higher difficulties. I can kill Bunko with 2-3 hits in hard, and I have way worse STR, overcharge, armor...almost everything than you.

QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 29 2011, 06:13) *

Pirate Bird/Eila/Neptuna/Lise. Those are probably the 4 biggest threats to me right now


QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 29 2011, 06:14) *

I just discovered that she dies like a rat when you hit her with darkness.


Another good thing for fenrir mage, which I haven't said before: all those dcherry mentions die really fast.
Which makes fenrir really good for arenas, in my opinion.

QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Aug 29 2011, 10:57) *

On normal difficulty + great status, spam Magic Missile for CM > Nerf > ~6 shot w/ Banish spam. Haven't really noticed the magic damage boost from Bewilder. I spam Soul Burst on Konata (if I get too many of these I'll regen on one). Usually though I'll chew through around 13 mana pots per run without stopping to ET (final round excepted).


Thanks for all who answered.
I'm using weaken+nerf only right now, and I plan to drop weaken since I have abundant SP right now.
I should be the first one to attempt EOD after 0.6.0 patch, and weaken+nerf is what I'm using at that time (with IA on SV+haste).
My experience tells me that as long as you have enough SP (SP tank or SP potion), you don't need to use slow/poison/blind. I haven't tried bewilder yet, so I'm not sure of its effect.
My reasoning is that as long as you're doing things properly, you should be able to kill a schoolgirl in 50 turns, so poison is not helping much (you only save 1 spirit attack from schoolgirls)
And at normal difficulty with weaken, regen II is enough to keep your HP full, so slow/blind is out.

And Ballistic9, I think it's better to use Storms of Njord against Konata instead of soul...?
No, I'm not sure. Need to try that today.
Edit: It's about the same with my oak staff of heimdall. Different staff may have different result though.

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