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post Feb 3 2016, 23:06
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you sir have good tastes. did you already look at this gallery?


we really need some quality OP doujin instead of these CGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

btw,
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1063c82287
can I have price check?

also, precursors price on ISB stayed at 27k, it's been a week now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Feb 3 2016, 23:10
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 3 2016, 11:21) *

I dont remember very accurate, but base is something like 1 arti per 2000 monsters, so this way each level of archaeologist gives something like 1700/2000 = 0,85 credits bonus for each monster. Its roughly 500k monsters if 4+5 cost 826k.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) 500,000 monsters!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Nah I think I'll stick with Arch lvl 3.

also

Trash or not?
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post Feb 3 2016, 23:11
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 3 2016, 13:06) *

we really need some quality OP doujin instead of these CGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

btw,
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1063c82287
can I have price check?

also, precursors price on ISB stayed at 27k, it's been a week now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Ah it's trash, send it to me! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 3 2016, 23:25
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 3 2016, 22:06) *

we really need some quality OP doujin instead of these CGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Kurione-sha did nice things, iirc. even Acid Head, if you like the style. just to name a couple of still active artists...

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 3 2016, 22:10) *

it's not so much. take the 4 2nd page arenas prior to SGs - which means T&T and the three before: they have already 2k mobs, so it will only need 25 days or so at that pace to return of that investment. even less depending on ED/Artifact ratio. i will stick with Arch 3 as well for a while, but if i really played a lot it would still be more worthy than many other things...
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post Feb 4 2016, 00:48
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 4 2016, 05:06) *

we really need some quality OP doujin instead of these CGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

btw,
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1063c82287
can I have price check?


With that wd, not high. Maybe 1 to 2m?
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post Feb 4 2016, 00:51
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Still curious about maging and I must ask -

What is meant by "4+1" and "3/2" mage sets on the previous page?

Is this a mixture of different armor?
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post Feb 4 2016, 00:55
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ Feb 3 2016, 23:51) *

Still curious about maging and I must ask -

What is meant by "4+1" and "3/2" mage sets on the previous page?

Is this a mixture of different armor?

Phase (first number) + prof cloth (second number).

So, for example, 4 phase of Mjolnir and one cloth of the elementalist.
Or 3 phase of heimdall + 2 cloth of the heaven-sent for holy 3+2.
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:30
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 3 2016, 21:10) *
Nah I think I'll stick with Arch lvl 3.
With my current level of training, 43460 monsters = 42.80 estimated artifacts = 770336 credits or so (@ 18k). If I had had one less level of Archaeologist, factoring in the effect of Quartermaster/Scavenger and maxed PLs, 43460 monsters = 40.66 estimated artifacts = 731819 credits or so. So the final training of Quartermaster has paid me back almost 40k over the past few days.

It's a long way from breaking even, but +15k/day is still a very large change. HV wealth is very very top-heavy, the more resources you have, the more income you gain, and training is a big part of this.
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:37
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Yea, or sometimes we also can intend prof factor. 4+1 with forge usually gives around 0,7x and 3+2 full 1,0 prof factor.

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 4 2016, 00:10) *

500,000 monsters!!!

Thats indeed not so much. For good mage its ~60 hours. So first time its payback, but after that 800k+ additional profit each another 60 hours.

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post Feb 4 2016, 01:39
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 3 2016, 13:25) *
it's not so much. take the 4 2nd page arenas prior to SGs - which means T&T and the three before: they have already 2k mobs, so it will only need 25 days or so at that pace to return of that investment. even less depending on ED/Artifact ratio. i will stick with Arch 3 as well for a while, but if i really played a lot it would still be more worthy than many other things...

Interesing... just for shits and giggles, how many mobs do they have in the SG arenas?



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post Feb 4 2016, 01:40
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 4 2016, 08:10) *


Salvage
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:41
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Salvage

Bah... okay thx!
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:42
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 3 2016, 23:39) *

Interesing... just for shits and giggles, how many mobs do they have in the SG arenas?

See Arena - Wiki ^^
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:53
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 4 2016, 00:39) *

Interesing... just for shits and giggles, how many mobs do they have in the SG arenas?

this:
QUOTE(simrock87 @ Feb 4 2016, 00:42) *

btw, i took only the first combo that popped into my mind. obviously no need to play everyday the very same arenas etc etc. it was only a practical example
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post Feb 4 2016, 02:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 4 2016, 10:53) *

obviously no need to play everyday


I disagree. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:18
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What does the "reset" do to my abilities? Will I be able to get back the ability points that I had spent?
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:20
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What does the "reset" do to my abilities? Will I be able to get back the ability points that I had spent?

Yes, that's exactly what it does.
I have no idea why everything costs 0 Credits though; perhaps it used to cost a few credits in the past?
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:27
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Yes, that's exactly what it does.
I have no idea why everything costs 0 Credits though; perhaps it used to cost a few credits in the past?

err , nope

reset ability never cost credits when tenb begin to replace old tree skill in 2013 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

meanwhile , reset slot ( reset all ) will need credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:29
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 4 2016, 04:06) *

we really need some quality OP doujin instead of these CGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

btw,
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1063c82287
can I have price check?

also, precursors price on ISB stayed at 27k, it's been a week now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

bukannya ini rapier yg elu bid di wannaf auction kemarin , fud (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

napa mau dijual lagi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:38
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Feb 4 2016, 02:30) *

With my current level of training, 43460 monsters = 42.80 estimated artifacts = 770336 credits or so (@ 18k). If I had had one less level of Archaeologist, factoring in the effect of Quartermaster/Scavenger and maxed PLs, 43460 monsters = 40.66 estimated artifacts = 731819 credits or so. So the final training of Quartermaster has paid me back almost 40k over the past few days.

It's a long way from breaking even, but +15k/day is still a very large change. HV wealth is very very top-heavy, the more resources you have, the more income you gain, and training is a big part of this.

Yeah, but the last level of Archaeologist costs 8m and the one before it almost 4.8m. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Assuming your calculations are correct and it gives +15k/day, it will take you ~533 days of grinding just to pay back the cost of the final level. That's more than double the total amount of time I played HV and I'll probably sooner grind to lvl500 or lose interest before wasting so much time, meaning it will never pay for itself much less give profit.
Scavenger/Quartermaster/LotD are expensive too, but at least they slightly increase the odds of getting a good Legendary/Peerless that would pay for them in one go (fat chance, I know), meanwhile Archaeologist only has artifacts and occasional ponies.
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