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25k-100k/day for how many hours or rounds?
And does it include credits from selling stuffs to others?
I earn few credits every day.
I played in the first three arena , and the last three ones (only before two Legendaries in a round)
That is , 5 + 7 + 12 + 110 + 83 + 74 = 291 rounds.
But it seems only about 20k~30k credits earned. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I would like to change to a holy mage .
But as we know , the cost will be very high , especially when we want a good suit of equipments.
I'm still earning credits slowly to buy a good staff and clothes .
And getting expensive hath perks may be just a dream for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But from the signature , it seems you've got four peerless stuffs dropped.
I never get any one yet , even though I played with difficulty PFUDOR from the very beginning. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Please share some luck with me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

25-100k purely from credits drops and selling superior equipments to bazaar (I salvage every useless rares and exq+ equipments) - I shrine every artifacts, and hoard the trophy and energy drinks.

I only do the last 3-6 arena and RE. 3-6 because sometimes I don't really feel like spending 1 hour+ doing DwD so sometimes only T&T and the first 2 SG arenas, sometimes only dwd, sometimes no sg arena since I run out of stamine (reaches 80) earlier becuase damned ponies refuse to shows up on my slow connection.

most important question first: can you survive easily with full unforged slaughter set on PFUDOR? if not i would consider getting more Protection instead of Slaughter, I have for example only 1 Slaughter 1 Balance and rest Protection.. DWD takes under 40mins so " I " think Slaughter should be left aide until its forged really good to withstand any damage taken

Yes. You should be able to survive easily using full power started from early 300-ish (edit:provided you have decent block) since I finish dwd on full unforged power (it's not 100% slaughter, but a mix between exq slaughter and mag balance and maybe a warding) while on lvl 306. It's easy and boring and take a veeeery long time to finish.

dammit, looks like I need new equipment comparison script. My current shows old/new 51.54/50.53 MDB, 10.78/10.75 EDB and better prof and wisdom on the new one.

Please give me a link to the script which you use.

You don't need equipment comparison script to check it. and afaik there's bound to be some mistake while comparing different level bounded equipment using the compare base point option no matter which version you use.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 29 2016, 09:17

one thing good when I get bad/worst ping is my stamina is higher than my usual 20~40 range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

other than that , nothing good ~ especially for my income (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

most important question first: can you survive easily with full unforged slaughter set on PFUDOR? if not i would consider getting more Protection instead of Slaughter, I have for example only 1 Slaughter 1 Balance and rest Protection.. DWD takes under 40mins so " I " think Slaughter should be left aide until its forged really good to withstand any damage taken

PF on where, RE or Arena?

RE, yes, arena, unlikely.

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Deflection

Magnificent Mithril Power Helmet of Slaughter

Magnificent Power Armor of Slaughter

Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Protection

Magnificent Power Leggings of Slaughter

Magnificent Amber Power Boots of Slaughter

25k-100k/day for how many hours or rounds?

I can get ~43 credits/turn when playing arenas and ~41 on Hellfest. Finishing all PF arenas (except SG) takes less than an hour, maybe 50 minutes? I'm not quite sure, I don't usually play them all at once, but it's a bit less than an hour for me as elec mage. That's when stamina cost is factored in. Without ED cost, it's closer to 55-60 credits/turn. IIRC, all non-SG PF arenas give me 250k?? something revenue. Maybe 260k or 210k, sometimes I factor in stamina cost and sometimes I don't.

Note that this is considering the value of all aspects of income, including artifacts, crystals, and bazaared equipment (using my Inventory Summary script), with (nearly) maxed training.

I only do the last 3-6 arena and RE. 3-6 because sometimes I don't really feel like spending 1 hour+ doing DwD so sometimes only T&T and the first 2 SG arenas, sometimes only dwd, sometimes no sg arena since I run out of stamine (reaches 80) earlier becuase damned ponies refuse to shows up on my slow connection.

Going under 80 stamina isn't a problem IMO, XP isn't an important factor to consider - and there are no other disadvantages.

High difficulty SG arenas have some of the worst income/time ratios. If you want income you'll probably be better off with T&T downwards on ~PF, and SG arenas on Normal (or not at all).

PF on where, RE or Arena?

RE, yes, arena, unlikely.

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Deflection

Magnificent Mithril Power Helmet of Slaughter

Magnificent Power Armor of Slaughter

Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Protection

Magnificent Power Leggings of Slaughter

Magnificent Amber Power Boots of Slaughter

your leggings have not so good ADB range for mag grade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jan 29 2016, 09:55

I can get ~43 credits/turn when playing arenas and ~41 on Hellfest. Finishing all PF arenas (except SG) takes less than an hour, maybe 50 minutes? I'm not quite sure, I don't usually play them all at once, but it's a bit less than an hour for me as elec mage. That's when stamina cost is factored in. Without ED cost, it's closer to 55-60 credits/turn. IIRC, all non-SG PF arenas give me 250k?? something revenue. Maybe 260k or 210k, sometimes I factor in stamina cost and sometimes I don't.

Note that this is considering the value of all aspects of income, including artifacts, crystals, and bazaared equipment (using my Inventory Summary script), with (nearly) maxed training.Going under 80 stamina isn't a problem IMO, XP isn't an important factor to consider - and there are no other disadvantages.

High difficulty SG arenas have some of the worst income/time ratios. If you want income you'll probably be better off with T&T downwards on ~PF, and SG arenas on Normal (or not at all).

Indeed getting below 80 isn't a problem except the exp, but I put exp above income, since I'm not really in grave need of credits, moreover it's not like that I'm having 2t/s+ that munch stamina that fast, so I put reaching 80 as a sign of "it's time to stop playing for today". - well on a very rare occasion I'll just play a bit longer until reaching 79-78 stamina or kid myself with chugging ED to play more, the later is a very very rare occasion.

And no, I'm not doing SG arenas as daily chore, usually start with T&T, check the ping, then decide what's next, most of the time I'll just do lower level one (since ping is suck unless when I'm on uni), next possible outcome is doing EoD since it wouldn't take that much longer than T&T anyway, the other 2 SG arenas are only when ping is fast or I already do anything from 75 round arena to EoD and I feel like watching more animu playing for another few hour or so.

btw that 20-100k is from how much my credits change each day, so it might lower after counting the potion spent nad other expense (I bought about 1-2k mana and spirit draught every 3-4 weeks, but that should be minimal - 20-40k/month maybe), after all it's not like I'm counting every time whenever any penny comes into my pocket.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 29 2016, 10:09

Indeed getting below 80 isn't a problem except the exp, but I put exp above income, since I'm not really in grave need of credits, moreover it's not like that I'm having 2t/s+ that munch stamina that fast, so I put reaching 80 as a sign of "it's time to stop playing for today". - well on a very rare occasion I'll just play a bit longer until reaching 79-78 stamina or kid myself with chugging ED to play more, the later is a very very rare occasion.

And no, I'm not doing SG arenas as daily chore, usually start with T&T, check the ping, then decide what's next, most of the time I'll just do lower level one (since ping is suck unless when I'm on uni), next possible outcome is doing EoD since it wouldn't take that much longer than T&T anyway, the other 2 SG arenas are only when ping is fast or I already do anything from 75 round arena to EoD and I feel like watching more animu playing for another few hour or so.

btw that 20-100k is from how much my credits change each day, so it might lower after counting the potion spent nad other expense (I bought about 1-2k mana and spirit draught every 3-4 weeks, but that should be minimal - 20-40k/month maybe), after all it's not like I'm counting every time whenever any penny comes into my pocket.

I remember the first 2 sg arena have very bad exp, so you may want to do something else.

I remember the first 2 sg arena have very bad exp, so you may want to do something else.

(disregarding time spent) isn't it still give better exp compared to the first half of 2nd page arena?

quick question, if i use power options for my PC are the programs running going to shut down ?
( H@H for example^^ ) or will they keep running in the background?

Your computer needs to be running (not sleeping, suspended, hibernating) for H@H to work. You can only really save energy on the display.

That's one reason I shut down my H@H machine daily when I'm not using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) it consumes too much power.

I'm pretty sure H@H could be made to run from System instead of User, allowing it to keep running even when the user is logged off, if that's what you're looking for.

Hmm. From the security point of view, I don't think it's a good idea to run as System? Although it may not make much difference on a single-user machine/network.

But if the Windows H@H client has a GUI component, simply running as System may not be sufficient to keep it running when you've logged off.

Another alternative is to create a hentaiathome user (maybe with a less descriptive name if shared pc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)) and switch users but don't log off.

But... if the intent is to save power while running H@H, this won't help much.

here I am, slowly building the holy mage set
1) bought another staff
old one

new one
the differences are very small, but it looks like new on offers a small improvement. Am I right?

If you are planning to play Holy, why did you first get a Fiery staff, and try to replace it with an Ethereal staff? Even an average Magnificent Hallowed Katalox/oak of Heimdall/Destruction should be better than both of these?

Eg, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c72986e4df 43.1 + 17.92 = 61.02

should i train LoTD (11/25) or Quartermaster (10/20) to get more stable profit?

i play arenas only on normal and RE on nintendo.

-current level for lotd 11 and quartermaster 10.

The regular money is in artifacts and equipment. What's your archaeologist level? I recommend training archaeologist and quartermaster till their cost of next level is at parity, and approximately double the cost of the next upgrade for scavenger and LotD.

Indeed getting below 80 isn't a problem except the exp, but I put exp above income, since I'm not really in grave need of credits, moreover it's not like that I'm having 2t/s+ that munch stamina that fast, so I put reaching 80 as a sign of "it's time to stop playing for today". - well on a very rare occasion I'll just play a bit longer until reaching 79-78 stamina or kid myself with chugging ED to play more, the later is a very very rare occasion.

And no, I'm not doing SG arenas as daily chore, usually start with T&T, check the ping, then decide what's next, most of the time I'll just do lower level one (since ping is suck unless when I'm on uni), next possible outcome is doing EoD since it wouldn't take that much longer than T&T anyway, the other 2 SG arenas are only when ping is fast or I already do anything from 75 round arena to EoD and I feel like watching more animu playing for another few hour or so.

btw that 20-100k is from how much my credits change each day, so it might lower after counting the potion spent nad other expense (I bought about 1-2k mana and spirit draught every 3-4 weeks, but that should be minimal - 20-40k/month maybe), after all it's not like I'm counting every time whenever any penny comes into my pocket.

boros amat elu make draught , fud (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

gw dari selfdrop dah lebih dari cukup tuh draught , kok elu boros banget (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

(disregarding time spent) isn't it still give better exp compared to the first half of 2nd page arena?

Time spent is the big issue though, right?

See:

2,366,121,718 XP from DwD, 1098 sec (2.7 t/sec, 2.2m xp/sec)
1,108,637,439 XP from Eternal Darkness, 713 sec (2.9 t/sec, 1.6m xp/sec)
1,216,082,986 XP from End of Days, 504 sec (2.8 t/sec, 2.4m xp/sec)

1,055,227,659 XP from To Kill a God, 244 sec (1.8 t/sec, 4.3m xp/sec)
709,616,254 XP from New Wings, 187 sec (2 t/sec, 3.8m xp/sec)
664,921,482 XP from Sealed Power, 181 sec (2 t/sec, 3.7m xp/sec)
614,942,014 XP from Exile, 186 sec (1.9 t/sec, 3.3m xp/sec)
530,562,161 XP from Dreamfall, 180 sec (1.9 t/sec, 2.9m xp/sec)

476,300,442 XP from round 1-57 of GF, 194 sec (1.8 t/sec, 2.5m xp/sec)

This is with mage.

Also, keep in mind that more resources from playing can mean more credits that can be converted to ED. Balancing exactly 24 stamina/day is somewhat less of a focal point than some think, because income = credits = stamina. (Of course you can still conclude that the cost of [LGBD] -> 76 credits/round and then 152 credits/round isn't worth it compared to what else you would do with your time, but you'd get more XP that way, and you said you value XP more than credits. One can think of everything as fluid.)

Hmm. From the security point of view, I don't think it's a good idea to run as System? Although it may not make much difference on a single-user machine/network.

But if the Windows H@H client has a GUI component, simply running as System may not be sufficient to keep it running when you've logged off.

Another alternative is to create a hentaiathome user (maybe with a less descriptive name if shared pc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)) and switch users but don't log off.

Right, it's probably not a "great" idea, but we're still executing Tenboro's H@H code on (often) via a user with admin privileges.

(Also, take a look at your current System processes. Odds are very likely that more than a few are by programs/companies that you only trust 99.5%, yet nearly everyone tolerates them anyway. Grr...)

I wonder, does "java -jar HentaiAtHome.jar" work on Windows (no GUI)? I don't have a Windows computer with access to a public IP address, but I'm hopeful it'd work.

Your computer needs to be running (not sleeping, suspended, hibernating) for H@H to work. You can only really save energy on the display.
That's one reason I shut down my H@H machine daily when I'm not using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) it consumes too much power.

so you only use H@H while you are on youre PC? is your Hath gain still good while doing that?

This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Jan 29 2016, 10:58

Question about Magic Crit Chance

Critical Strike Chance

Magic Crit Chance = (1 - 0.95 * (1 - equipment_bonus) * (1 - proficiency_bonus) * (3750 / (3750 + WIS + INT / 2))) * Max(1 - (Interference * 0.02)^1.5, 0)

My stats
- Staff's Magic Crit Chance = +8.19 %
- Prof. bonus = 474 * 0.00025
- Int = 1310
- Wis = 1314
- no interference


So, it should be 49.586%.
(1 - 0.95 * (1 - 0.0819) * (1 - 474*0.00025) * (3750 / (3750 + 1314 + 1310 / 2)))

But the actual crit chance is 49.8%.


I tested some various numbers and factors, but couldn't find a valid formula.

High difficulty SG arenas have some of the worst income/time ratios. If you want income you'll probably be better off with T&T downwards on ~PF, and SG arenas on Normal (or not at all).

i agree. SGs are good only for farming tokens and trophies - thus to do only at Hard or so (you know, at Normal you won't earn any Amnesia and even a 0.1% chance is better than zero (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). best EXP ratio should be for T&T, which is still possible to clear within reasonable terms even at PF.
btw, is it only my impression or is it easier for 2nd page arenas to drop tokens in the end if you start from T&T?

so you only use H@H while you are on youre PC? is your Hath gain still good while doing that?

wasn't explicitly required for H@H miners to run 24/7? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Question about Magic Crit Chance
So, it should be 49.586%.

But the actual crit chance is 49.8%.

what's wrong with a 0.4% mistake? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Question about Magic Crit Chance

Is the 49.8 just from your character stat page? (not from battle logs) (in battle there's also Arcane Focus)

I'm getting:
(1 - 0.95 * (1 - 0.0672) * (1 - 464*0.00025) * (3750 / (3750 + 1200 + 1142 / 2))) = 0.46792 = 46.8%
and my displayed stat is 47%.

Maybe I should record my battle logs and see which is closer to the true value.

what's wrong with a 0.4% mistake? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

An error is an error. In my experience with programs that often means something has gone badly wrong and if it isn't fixed, something farther along the line will eventually break. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Course, in this situation, all it means probably is that the wiki is wrong, yet again. No one's surprised, right?

Is the 49.8 just from your character stat page? (not from battle logs) (in battle there's also Arcane Focus)

I'm getting:
(1 - 0.95 * (1 - 0.0672) * (1 - 464*0.00025) * (3750 / (3750 + 1200 + 1142 / 2))) = 0.46792 = 46.8%
and my displayed stat is 47%.

again, 0.4% error. it seems like a systematic one, but should need confirmation.

[mode=rough engineer]
if that's the case, you may simply correct the formula simply dividing by 1.004 with a negligible mistake.
iirc 1.003 was already used as base for some logarithms, so i wouldn't be surprised to see it popping out from nowhere in some other istances (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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In my experience with programs that often means something has gone badly wrong and if it isn't fixed, something farther along the line will eventually break. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Course, in this situation, all it means probably is that the wiki is wrong, yet again. No one's surprised, right?

yes, yes. i know something about the spread of the errors. but here we aren't designing a shuttle which may or may not explode in the atmosphere for less than this (*), we are simply trying to guess which performances may have a build - which is still randomly affected by luck, so there's a way bigger (and imponderable!) amount of approximation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(*) btw, for those interested: afaik one of those lunchs failed because they used bad screws, and another one because there were an European and an American equipe working on that, but nobody verified about the coherence of units of measure - both SI and Imperial units were used without being converted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Some random checks, given my stats.
No equipment: 0.2294 calculated, 22.9% displayed. OK, but perhaps the error exists and was rounded out of sight.
A staff only: 0.2886 calculated, 28.9% displayed. OK, but perhaps the error exists and was rounded out of sight.
Cloth only + spellcrit: 0.3891 calculated, 39% displayed. Incorrect
Cloth + unslotting spellcrit: 0.3089 calculated, 31% displayed. Incorrect

Maybe there is a problem with the PAB area of the equation, or with the 0.95. Or maybe during calculation, some less-significant digits are shaved off subproducts, though it's hard to believe they would have this much of an effect.

your leggings have not so good ADB range for mag grade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Back to the auctions, eh? *facepalm*

Indeed getting below 80 isn't a problem except the exp, but I put exp above income, since I'm not really in grave need of credits, moreover it's not like that I'm having 2t/s+ that munch stamina that fast, so I put reaching 80 as a sign of "it's time to stop playing for today". - well on a very rare occasion I'll just play a bit longer until reaching 79-78 stamina or kid myself with chugging ED to play more, the later is a very very rare occasion.

I think you missed something. At normal stamina you can make double amount of rounds so exp gain is the same like at great stamina. Time consumed is another matter though...