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In that case the domino strike should not hit for 2/3/4 monsters aside but rather 4/6/8 monsters BELOW the main target. That would make sense (and that would actually be pretty good dps-wise).

Let's not get too serious about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Level 207 and I can barely complete Exile on Nightmare. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

/wrists

Level 207 and I can barely complete Exile on Nightmare. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

/wrists

I guess this is a lot easier before 200...?

Wow, I expected something around 20-30k HP on Konata when I fought her, except.....I forgot I left the difficulty setting on Hard.

Oh well, 25k richer now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Edit: And Mikuru one shots me on normal with a 2.1k Time Quake. Pretty much just ignored my Barrier + Infusion of Darkness...

This post has been edited by Koudesu: Aug 20 2011, 15:52

I guess this is a lot easier before 200...?

Probably.
How am I supposed to survive with Eila, Liselotte, Bunko, Neptunia and Pirate Bird ganging up on me? (IMG:[img706.imageshack.us] http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2262/angrylx.gif)

Edit: nevermind, just witched to the good ol' hit-weaken-leech strategy and now I can complete every arena without even using pots (´∀`)
It does take too damn long though, 40 minutes for New Wings (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This post has been edited by (Cheater) Tiap: Aug 20 2011, 18:49

In that case the domino strike should not hit for 2/3/4 monsters aside but rather 4/6/8 monsters BELOW the main target. That would make sense (and that would actually be pretty good dps-wise).

Ah, so it would. That is, unless you consider that perhaps the selected target is actually just the 'center' of the group which can be hit, with various monsters dodging and being missed as the player charges up from the side of the line.

Implausible, but not impossible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

@loberhome yes stamina drain in only dependent on how many rounds you fight. how long you take in each round has nothing to do with it.

guys try not to advise unless you're confident on what you're saying. misleading advice is as arguably worse than no advice

@midnight yes things will be tougher once you hit 200. i had to use 1 more mana pot than usual. ie takes me 7 godly manas to clear eve of death but after 200 it took me 8 godly manas on average. (nightmare ofc)

@ estoc off topic discussion. should just rename all estocs to bows? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

just rename all estocs to bows? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Would love that, as my own char name implies an archer.

So, at this point, where completing all the arena battles puts my stamina under 80, I assume it's better to just skip the earlier arenas and just do the latter ones for the higher EXP multiplier and trophies, right?

So, at this point, where completing all the arena battles puts my stamina under 80, I assume it's better to just skip the earlier arenas and just do the latter ones for the higher EXP multiplier and trophies, right?

On my level I can barely complete Trio and Eve with Great status on. All other challenges are daily-completed by me with just Normal.
I wonder if Tenboro can change the stamina-system a bit. Say, the rounds with less enemies cost less stamina. For example, stamina cost for the round with 8 enemies would be equal to our current rate while the round with just two enemies would only cost 1/4 of the same value. This would make farming lower arenas a lot more easier while deepest rounds will still keep the rate.

This post has been edited by MiAla: Aug 21 2011, 03:04

guys try not to advise unless you're confident on what you're saying. misleading advice is as arguably worse than no advice

Sorry, my mistake. Stamina does seem to drop during battles for me though, not after...

you mean between turns? that shouldn't happen. otherwise you'd better feel sorry for those guys fighting on IWBTH where monsters have much much much more life. just a fyi, some of the guys used to spend *very* long periods of time in one arena or another. that'd definitely tear their stamina a new one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

just so we're clear
turns ~ that number on the left that *usually* goes up 1 everytime you do something
rounds ~ every time you fight new wave of monsters ex. so and so has spawned with 5 other buddies <- this is when your stamina should be dropping

e: as for the advising, thing. don't need to apologize. the same rule applies to me in many cases, hence i only answer the questions i feel confident i can give a right answer to

This post has been edited by dcherry: Aug 21 2011, 05:14

Wow, I expected something around 20-30k HP on Konata when I fought her, except.....I forgot I left the difficulty setting on Hard.

Oh well, 25k richer now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Edit: And Mikuru one shots me on normal with a 2.1k Time Quake. Pretty much just ignored my Barrier + Infusion of Darkness...

Heh, fought Mikuru yesterday as well (on normal), as well as Konata. Did Asakura a three days ago or something like that. Out of those three, Mikuru definitely was the strongest one. You need to bewilder her. Bewilder + Infusion of Darkness helps out a lot. Can't fight her without bewilder, because you might get a crit in. (+ too much damage...) Was really lucky, that I actually brought those Infusions with me. I really needed them, especially as I only carry weak potions with me...

Well, I'm kinda "careless" with those bosses anyway. Normally you shouldn't go with 2h Style in such a battle. I do it anyway. (Dualwield with Axe+Rapier is way more effective I guess)

I tried IPU the other day because it seemed like the easiest of the three Gods.

700-1500 damage per Pestilence = Flee. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) I don't think my resources would have held up for the ~500 rounds it would have taken.

Heh, fought Mikuru yesterday as well (on normal), as well as Konata. Did Asakura a three days ago or something like that. Out of those three, Mikuru definitely was the strongest one. You need to bewilder her. Bewilder + Infusion of Darkness helps out a lot. Can't fight her without bewilder, because you might get a crit in. (+ too much damage...) Was really lucky, that I actually brought those Infusions with me. I really needed them, especially as I only carry weak potions with me...

Well, I'm kinda "careless" with those bosses anyway. Normally you shouldn't go with 2h Style in such a battle. I do it anyway. (Dualwield with Axe+Rapier is way more effective I guess)

I was actually using dual rapiers...

And I cheaped Mikuru and Ryouko with Bubble Gum. I was stocking up on them, so might as well.

I dont get the concept of "Shield rating" of my champion. Just how exactly does it reduce incoming physical damage?

I dont get the concept of "Shield rating" of my champion. Just how exactly does it reduce incoming physical damage?

No one knows!

Why do i see so much shit drop with higher quality prefixes (fine/superior) and then i see people post in the equipment thread and other places here stuff that is "average" or i see a -CRUDE- whatever in the bazaar with better stats, and not even just the stat it has a suffix for...

Does the prefix even mean -anything- aside from duping you into thinking you got a good drop, or is it JUST THAT vague?

This post has been edited by RajaNagaSoz: Aug 22 2011, 04:26

Why do i see so much shit drop with higher quality prefixes (fine/superior) and then i see people post in the equipment thread and other places here stuff that is "average" or i see a -CRUDE- whatever in the bazaar with better stats, and not even just the stat it has a suffix for...
Does the prefix even mean -anything- aside from duping you into thinking you got a good drop, or is it JUST THAT vague?

To quote Tenboro:

The quality prefix is basically the average value of all the stats given to a piece of gear. For a stat that ranges from 5-10, getting 5 is +1 quality while getting 10 is +6 quality. The sum of the quality scores is then divided by the maximum possible quality score to get a quality rating between 0 and 1. For example, a piece of gear would have to score above 0.5 to qualify as "fine", so if the maximum quality score was 100, it would need at least 51.

Even if a piece of equipment does have a good prefix, that doesn't guarantee the stat you're interested to have a good base roll.
An Exquisite Phase Robe of Surtr with 1.99 base EDB is no better than a Fair Robe of Surtr with 5.08 base EDB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Even if a piece of equipment does have a good prefix, that doesn't guarantee the stat you're interested to have a good base roll.
An Exquisite Phase Robe of Surtr with 1.99 base EDB is no better than a Fair Robe of Surtr with 5.08 base EDB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's quite interesting. I guess there are no methods to test how high your quality is in numbers and which number-range the quality-prefix have?

I actually thought the quality had just a higher percentage for being better, but... I guess high rolls on burden and interference would be less visible and quickly make something "superior" without the equipment looking like that.

This post has been edited by killi890: Aug 22 2011, 09:24