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Nope.

No one knows the exact chance except Tenboro.

Nope, 100% of level isn't 100% channel chance.

Oops, I see, thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And one more question, action speed is now NOT capped at 200?
I searched for the HV Release Notes a bit but cannot find information about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Maybe I'm missing out something?

since ehwiki say this, I want to clearify it,

Action speed is capped at 200.

Oh.. and, if that is really capped at a number, can it break though the limit in the battle when using haste?

And one more question, action speed is now NOT capped at 200?
I searched for the HV Release Notes a bit but cannot find information about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Maybe I'm missing out something?

since ehwiki say this, I want to clearify it,

Oh.. and, if that is really capped at a number, can it break though the limit in the battle when using haste?

Patch 0.5.1

- Base turn duration was increased from 300 to 500 and is now capped to (100,500). Which means that the effects of Haste will no longer start degrading around level 200, nor eventually disappear.

This post has been edited by varst: Aug 19 2011, 06:01

Patch 0.5.1

Thanks, varst, again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh, that's why I can't find this thead by using term "action speed"...

Should have study a little bit for what is the Base turn duration means and affect...not quite understanding the effect of it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Ok.. after a little bit study, I find that Base turn duration increase from 300 -> 500 , doesn't mean the Action speed is not capped at 200?

In Sayo Aisaka thread https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=27680

I also confirmed that action speed is capped at 200

She(he) didn't explain how she confirm action speed is capped at 200?

Base action time = 300 - action speed

According to this rules, action speed should have capped at 299 when before HV 0.5.1, which makes the Base action time for 1.0x speed action will not less than 1, isn't it?


And, Base turn duration increase from 300 -> 500, if we assume Sayo's theory is right, capped at 200, Base turn duration increase will just cast us a longer base action time (500-action speed), but nothing change to the action speed limit..?

How do a Base turn duration increase lead us a higher action speed cap?

Sorry if i messed things up, I know this question is stupid for the one who already understand it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Loli connnnn: Aug 19 2011, 07:16

Ok.. after a little bit study, I find that Base turn duration increase from 300 -> 500 , doesn't mean the Action speed is not capped at 200?

In Sayo Aisaka thread https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=27680
She(he) didn't explain how she confirm action speed is capped at 200?

When reading threads like this that have formulas for figuring out game mechanics, you have to really check when it was posted. If it was posted before multiple patches chances are the formulas that were used then are now useless.

When reading threads like this that have formulas for figuring out game mechanics, you have to really check when it was posted. If it was posted before multiple patches chances are the formulas that were used then are now useless.

According to this rules, action speed should have capped at 299 when before HV 0.5.1

That's why I'm saying in HV 0.5.1's situation, and, seems there do not have anything changed that will affect action speed apart from the Base turn duration 300->500 and the haste spell

Assuming all that stuff, isnt action speed capped @ 333,3 now?

That's why I'm saying in HV 0.5.1's situation, and, seems there do not have anything changed that will affect action speed apart from the Base turn duration 300->500 and the haste spell

Well I personally don't think anything is 100% confirmed unless it comes directly from Tenb.

- Base turn duration was increased from 300 to 500 and is now capped to (100,500). Which means that the effects of Haste will no longer start degrading around level 200, nor eventually disappear.

Everything below is my theory, 0 Facts.
From what Tenboro posted this is what I got out of it. What I assume is Action speed's effectiveness suffers from diminishing effect as it gets closer to the Base Turn Duration. So back when it was Base Duration 300, when Action Speed was at 200, because of diminishing effect getting anything past 200 would seem ineffective. So maybe since Base Turn Duration was increased to 500, the diminishing effect for Action Speed would kick in at a higher value closer to the new Base Turn Duration.

This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 19 2011, 10:24

Assuming all that stuff, isnt action speed capped @ 333,3 now?

oh.. you mean, before haste?
After haste that will be 333.3 *1.5 = 499.95

Seems reasonable!

Ahuh.. but why there will be a 200 Action speed before HV 0.5.1? Should have be 299(after haste) or 199(before hasted, and assume 200 prof)

After I get spirit shield, is spark of life pretty useless? I suppose I still want to keep silence for FSM.

After I get spirit shield, is spark of life pretty useless? I suppose I still want to keep silence for FSM.

Unless you're playing on Nightmare/Hell you can probably do without SoL (at least I do, and no problems so far).
Once you hit 200 you better have SS active at all times though, since Lisi and Eila hit pretty fast and pretty hard (got almost killed on Hard by Lisi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)).

Unless you're playing on Nightmare/Hell you can probably do without SoL (at least I do, and no problems so far).
Once you hit 200 you better have SS active at all times though, since Lisi and Eila hit pretty fast and pretty hard (got almost killed on Hard by Lisi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)).

Yeah, on heroic, I find I am safe with regen I/II, shield, haste, heartseeker on.
Just one more thing, on daily arena, is spirit shield better than silence while fighting bosses and legendaries?

Yeah, on heroic, I find I am safe with regen I/II, shield, haste, heartseeker on.
Just one more thing, on daily arena, is spirit shield better than silence while fighting bosses and legendaries?

As a mage, I usually spam Bewilder since it also lowers the enemy's magical defense and allows me to be done with it faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You should probably ask a melee (I think you're using a Shade set, right?), but I think keeping SS up wouldn't be a bad idea (it doesn't cost too much anyway).

As a mage, I usually spam Bewilder since it also lowers the enemy's magical defense and allows me to be done with it faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You should probably ask a melee (I think you're using a Shade set, right?), but I think keeping SS up wouldn't be a bad idea (it doesn't cost too much anyway).

Yeah I am a shade user (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
SS doesn't cost too much and it can be used to get channeled for regen II or HS

For bewilder, I thought it only lowers monster's magical attack?

Yeah I am a shade user (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
SS doesn't cost too much and it can be used to get channeled for regen II or HS
For bewilder, I thought it only lowers monster's magical attack?

Thought so too, but then I noticed enemies were dying a lot faster with Bewilder on.
Turns out it also lowers magic defense:

(IMG:[img24.imageshack.us] http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8634/bewilder.png)

Thought so too, but then I noticed enemies were dying a lot faster with Bewilder on.
Turns out it also lowers magic defense:

(IMG:[img24.imageshack.us] http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8634/bewilder.png)

Does Weaken lower the phys. defense then?

Does Weaken lower the phys. defense then?

Seems to be the case:
(IMG:[img20.imageshack.us] http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3687/weakenu.png)
I really need to raise my Deprecating proficiency (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

yes

Do artifacts drop anywhere outside of Arenas? I've got Archaeologist at level 4, and I haven't seen a single artifact in 4 days, at least.

they can drop from anywhere. hourly battle/grindfest/itemworld/arena (haven't seen RoB drop it so can't confirm for RoB)

make sure you have a decent level of scavenger