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Dec 30 2015, 14:05
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 11:28)  Ive checked time. Pf dwd with my fire set was 22min and almost 4k turns. But i dont have full 75 mitg reduction and at my lvl T3 has 5 turns cd. Its quite significant.
My last PF DwD was 33 minutes, so 50% advantage. I could probably be faster if I'd start to grind for deprecating proficiency, but I guess sub30 is difficult for 1h with only mild forging and no full slaughter. @doom9ra: you may be able to sell the axe for 10k if you're lucky. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Dec 30 2015, 14:08
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Dec 30 2015, 14:51
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Epion
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My last PF DwD was 1h 40m. The difference between some slaughter and zero slaughter...
... Have stopped trying it though after i started using DW for it that is faster. I'll go try it now. Be back in a couple of hours.
This post has been edited by Epion: Dec 30 2015, 14:54
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Dec 30 2015, 15:00
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 30 2015, 19:51)  My last PF DwD was 1h 40m. The difference between some slaughter and zero slaughter...
... Have stopped trying it though after i started using DW for it that is faster. I'll go try it now. Be back in a couple of hours.
well , sapo clear time is faster than me or void even though our ADB is much higher than him (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) he have very fast ping (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 30 2015, 15:01
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Dec 30 2015, 15:34
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 30 2015, 21:32)  nice IW for superior (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ikr, was in the bazaar for only 5k credit. If only i had typed faster lol. The next time i spot something worth-while, i should probably skip out on the detail and just post the item link. This post has been edited by izpekopon: Dec 30 2015, 15:36
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Dec 30 2015, 15:38
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 30 2015, 20:34)  ikr, was in the bazaar for only 5k credit. If only i had typed faster lol. The next time i spot something worth-while, i should probably skip out on the detail and just post the item link.
get it first than post here , izpe (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Dec 30 2015, 15:47
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 30 2015, 21:38)  get it first than post here , izpe (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) no no, i don't need it, i was posting here in-case some1 here needs it. If i needed it, i would have bought it straight (No doubt about that). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Maybe i should create a Bazaar spotter thread somewhere. This post has been edited by izpekopon: Dec 30 2015, 15:51
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Dec 30 2015, 16:07
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Void Domain
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What is the optimal slot for full prof factor? gloves and shoes?
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Dec 30 2015, 16:35
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Epion
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My pc didn't give too much trouble and have only been interrupted 2 times, but it was for very short while. I would say this is this is probably the best time i can get. My critical hits have NOT been the best once again, but then again it never is. If i get in a few hits to stack overcharge and then go for a full 1H combo (Shield Bash, Vital Strike and Merciful Blow) and Vital Strike get's a critical hit, i can kill one SG with one combo. If it does not crit however, it takes up to 3 combos (Shield Bash and Vital Strike) to kill a SG. Well, even when i put up a mix of exquisite/magnificent balance armor set it did not crit enough, so... **** it.     ( Pony Ragu Maker)
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Dec 30 2015, 16:43
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nec1986
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Dec 30 2015, 17:07)  What is the optimal slot for full prof factor? gloves and shoes?
Depends a bit on staff, because something like oak or willow has not very good roll. But seems even this way and something close to Pmax its near full. Just x50 forge instead x30. But probably mages with willow staff uses something different, because its hard to find staff with max mdb and edb. In reality its probably average prof roll in staff, so its already not enough. Anyway its not very big difference between 0,95 prof and full 1,0 with other slot. Its 46,4 mitg reduction and 50, but also lower edb amount. Specially with destruction staff edb also quite important. QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 30 2015, 17:35) 
t/s is main problem. Melee can get 3,5 t/s and it d be ~44 minutes. This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 30 2015, 16:54
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Dec 30 2015, 16:59
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nec1986
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 30 2015, 17:52)  Whats the maximal t/s in this case? Im curios how it affects. I mean we have max 4t/s, so i think its something like delay between turns and its kinda similar to ping situation.
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Dec 30 2015, 17:00
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 17:43)  t/s is main problem. Melee can get 3,5 t/s and it d be ~44 minutes.
I wonder what my problem is then -.- I have 3,2 - 3,5 t/s all the time but still finish DWD PF at 55mins+ with 6300 dmg.. so annoying
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Dec 30 2015, 17:08
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 22:43)  Depends a bit on staff, because something like oak or willow has not very good roll. But seems even this way and something close to Pmax its near full. Just x50 forge instead x30. But probably mages with willow staff uses something different, because its hard to find staff with max mdb and edb. In reality its probably average prof roll in staff, so its already not enough.
Oh I forgot about staff. If we are talking about holy, so katalox has higher prof will help? but its very rare. How many +base prof is needed for full prof? Any quick and dirty numbers?
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Dec 30 2015, 17:11
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 21:59)  Whats the maximal t/s in this case? Im curios how it affects. I mean we have max 4t/s, so i think its something like delay between turns and its kinda similar to ping situation.
don't know , but maybe around 2.x t/s (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'm use very minimal scripts ~ only 2 ( mousemelee lement & no pop up ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) sometime use HV item manager to shrine alot of items & selling crystal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) from my personal experience in 2013 , using linux OS will make your t/s increase but it flashing ALOT (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Dec 30 2015, 17:12
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nec1986
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Dec 30 2015, 18:00)  I wonder what my problem is then -.- I have 3,2 - 3,5 t/s all the time but still finish DWD PF at 55mins+ with 6300 dmg.. so annoying
In that case its probably turns amount. Actually as i remember 6300 is very decent amount at your level, so maybe you dont use ofc for small mobs or something else. QUOTE(Void Domain @ Dec 30 2015, 18:08)  Oh I forgot about staff. If we are talking about holy, so katalox has higher prof will help? but its very rare.
How many +base prof is needed for full prof? Any quick and dirty numbers?
As i remember katalox has slightly lower magic score, but because prof its very similar result. 21,7-22,1 gives around full prof with 50x forge, prof perk and depends on lvl (higher level - higher base needed). At 490 its ~22,05. Thats mostly why i said about willow. If its only 6 in staff then its probably impossibly to get 22-6=16 base with gloves and shoes. But im not sure about new Lmax ranges. QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 30 2015, 18:11)  don't know , but maybe around 2.x t/s (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Well, as i remember in ordinary fight (non sg) i had around 2,5-2,7 t/s with a bit concentration. So maybe its not so big difference. This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 30 2015, 17:21
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Dec 30 2015, 17:17
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 18:12)  In that case its probably turns amount. Actually as i remember 6300 is very decent amount at your level, so maybe you dont use ofc for small mobs or something else.
you mean at the rounds before the SG's ? no i dont use OFC there, I start using it at round 113, before that I attack the 2 SG's per round solely the other mobs lose a lot of HP from the counter attacks meanwhile
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Dec 30 2015, 17:45
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 30 2015, 23:12)  As i remember katalox has slightly lower magic score, but because prof its very similar result. 21,7-22,1 gives around full prof with 50x forge, prof perk and depends on lvl (higher level - higher base needed). At 490 its ~22,05. Thats mostly why i said about willow. If its only 6 in staff then its probably impossibly to get 22-6=16 base with gloves and shoes. But im not sure about new Lmax ranges.
I have a cap with p+0.15 and its only 8.15 prof and shoes m+0.23 is 6.04. So to use cap + gloves should be safer.
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