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Aug 13 2011, 11:10
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Xwai9
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HI all Experts (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I am a Novice on this game. Now I am 42LV. I am looking some more better equipment, but i know how to choose it. Hope some people can help me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Here are my Statistics and my equipment which i am using.
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Aug 13 2011, 11:44
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Evil Scorpio
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Joined: 9-May 10

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QUOTE(Xwai9 @ Aug 13 2011, 13:10)  HI all Experts (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I am a Novice on this game. Now I am 42LV. I am looking some more better equipment, but i know how to choose it. Hope some people can help me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Here are my Statistics and my equipment which i am using. I'm not very good in advices for mages, but there is one thing I know for sure: cotton is the lowest class of cloth type equipment. Only Superior or higher can have some real profit sometimes. If you're a mage - you need at least good Gossamer gear. Or Phase, if you can afford it.
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Aug 13 2011, 12:57
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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Strange. I am doing something wrong.
I tried to spec as a mage just to take a look at what they can do. I spammed the Condemn spell a bit and raised my divine prof to 92.90, then I bought some mage gear and tried to clear an arena or two on Hard (normally I am 2Handing 100+ arenas on Heroic). My current stats are: +27,4 MDA 93,2% hit 20,8% crit 52,0% holy SDB 14,2% dark SDB 155,10 Effective divine prof. 28,30 Effective forbidden prof.
I dunno how to clear "waves" of 2-3-4 monsters effectively, but when I reach 6+ enemy rounds I am poking Pestilence followed by Banish. usually only 1 or 2 enemies survive that and I just Condemn them to their death. Incoming damage is like WHAT. The only thing that actually saves me from being oneshotted is that I actually oneshot stuff, but thats on Hard, not Heroic+. Also mana drain is UNBELIEVABLE. it takes me up to 6-7 pots to clear a heroic 180lvl arena and it took me 11 pots to get to the last round of 110lvl arena as a mage, then I got wiped by a Dalek. Am I doing something wrong?
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Aug 13 2011, 13:21
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Cronauron
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 13 2011, 07:13)  The problem is that I wipe out arena-bosses like flies when I am in DW or at least 2H build. Also, how are mages supposed to kill these bosses when they are resistant to almost everything except one elemental school (and I am holy-based)? I wonder if I should revert back to 2H.
In that case it helps to buy the tier 3 elemental spells just for use on the bosses/Konata/Trio (though I admittedly didn't bother with this until I was over level 200 and had spare AP). Alternately you can just spam them with Soul Harvest.
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Aug 13 2011, 13:29
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Cronauron @ Aug 13 2011, 15:21)  In that case it helps to buy the tier 3 elemental spells just for use on the bosses/Konata/Trio (though I admittedly didn't bother with this until I was over level 200 and had spare AP). Alternately you can just spam them with Soul Harvest.
Konata is resistant to Soul now. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Aug 13 2011, 13:35
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DarkDespair5
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Joined: 20-December 10

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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 13 2011, 06:13)  The problem is that I wipe out arena-bosses like flies when I am in DW or at least 2H build. Also, how are mages supposed to kill these bosses when they are resistant to almost everything except one elemental school (and I am holy-based)? I wonder if I should revert back to 2H.
Elementalist equipment or generic fox gear, usually are the most versatile for grinding these arenas. I pretty much HAVE to spark on larger mobs or risk getting chain crit. I had so much fucking trouble with FSM you have no idea...Magic Missile! Magic Missile! Oh and an occasional Banish! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Aug 13 2011, 13:59
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hzqr
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Joined: 13-May 09

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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 13 2011, 12:57)  I dunno how to clear "waves" of 2-3-4 monsters effectively, but when I reach 6+ enemy rounds I am poking Pestilence followed by Banish. usually only 1 or 2 enemies survive that and I just Condemn them to their death. Incoming damage is like WHAT. The only thing that actually saves me from being oneshotted is that I actually oneshot stuff, but thats on Hard, not Heroic+. Also mana drain is UNBELIEVABLE. it takes me up to 6-7 pots to clear a heroic 180lvl arena and it took me 11 pots to get to the last round of 110lvl arena as a mage, then I got wiped by a Dalek. Am I doing something wrong? Get Elemental spells. Especially Fire/Electricity-based spells. They consume less Mana (well, Tier 1 and Tier 2 do) and are just as effective (if not more so). I usually clear my Heroic Arenas by spamming Chain Lightning and following up with Inferno or Meteor ( Status Effect Explosions are good). I use a Mjolnir/Surtr set (nothing with max EDB) and I can usually oneshot 60-70% of the enemies with a single Chain Lightning on Heroic. Oh, and consider Ether Theft'ing any surviving Elementals to death, it helps saving up a lot of Mana.
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Aug 13 2011, 15:13
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varst
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 13 2011, 18:57)  Am I doing something wrong?
If you're new to maging,it's a better choice to use those 'elemental' spells to get accustomed to mana usage first. The holy/dark combo provides enormous power, but you need to use tons on mana in order to clear arenas. For someone who's as lazy as me, clearing arenas dosen't require ET. (But that's because I'm lazy and want to clear rounds as soon as possible) Just cast spirit shield, then use pestilence to clear most of the enemies. Anything that's not dead can be killed by purge. By the way, don't cast regen2 or aranca focus. Wait until you have free chanelling to cast them. QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Aug 13 2011, 19:00)  Mana drain is unbelievable? I hear ya. Monsters do ridiculous damage to me, on *NORMAL*. I rely on buffs and speed to stay alive. This is what happens when you focus on power. Placed an order for 200 godly mana pots a while back...such is life. Maging requires paying constant attention to your healthbar on difficulties above Hard I've learned.
Anyone suggest upgrading any of this?
Try to get some EDB phases, as I have said before. You reach the level which you need to choose what spells to concentrate on. This post has been edited by varst: Aug 13 2011, 15:17
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Aug 13 2011, 16:15
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 13 2011, 16:13)  ...cast spirit shield...
Hellooo~~ Level 188 here >_> I reverted back to my precious Scythe. Maybe I'll consider playing mage some day but certainly Not Now. Im comfy :3
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Aug 13 2011, 16:30
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varst
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 13 2011, 22:15)  Hellooo~~ Level 188 here >_> I reverted back to my precious Scythe. Maybe I'll consider playing mage some day but certainly Not Now. Im comfy :3
I know you're lv.188, but it's just 2 levels away from 190, right? Just pick the style that you feel comfortable. I sparingly pick some shade armor and melee; interesting, but I can't adapt to that style
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Aug 13 2011, 17:04
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Ballistic9
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Speaking of which, anyone know if a Fenrir set can 2-shot BT arenas?
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Aug 13 2011, 18:11
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PSPhreak
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Joined: 24-August 09

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need some endgame advice
i dont want to fail this on my first attempt and the first thing i am wondering is which potions to bring, can i squeak by with just godly manas or should i go all in and bring mana elixirs? i only have 5 godly anyway but i have more than enough mana elixirs for now but i would rather not have to use them unless it is absolutely necessary.
second, i will be maging so how i do go about dealing with the boss in the final round? i always DW rapiers using the PA/poison/weaken/spirit/strategy in RoB so this will be the first time i will mage a boss outside of GF.
NVM
41 12 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood] 41 11 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Estoc of Slaughter] 41 10 You have obtained the title: Ascended 41 9 Blue Hedgehog dropped [Crystal of Swiftness] 41 8 Rusty Shackleford dropped [Superior Health Potion] 41 7 Gurren Lagann dropped [Average Leather Helmet of the Stone-skinned] 41 6 Mind Raper dropped [Crystal of Tempest] 41 5 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox] 41 4 Y
39 10 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Dragon Hide Helmet of the Fire-eater] 39 9 Chuck Norris dropped [Superior Spirit Potion] 39 8 Rabid Hamster dropped [Godly Health Potion] 39 7 Kamara dropped [Infusion of Storms] 39 6 Rabbit dropped [Average Longsword of the Illithid] 39 5 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch] 39 4 You are Victorious!
This post has been edited by PSPhreak: Aug 14 2011, 00:06
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Aug 14 2011, 01:53
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Koudesu
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Well, I've been playing this on and off for the past few years, and it wasn't until recently that I actually found a wiki for this game. However, I'm still stuck as to what kind of build I should go for.
Currently, I'm using a melee based character and just trying to grind up to a decently high level so I can start concentrating on getting gears and stuff together for a comfortable endgame (level 80+).
What I usually do is pack a bunch of mana potions, then head to a grindfest. I'll go a few rounds til I need to heal, and occasionally I'll get a channeling effect that I can use to buff myself with a shield, nulling most of the damage I'm taking for 20 turns. Rinse and repeat til I'm out of mana and items, then I get out of the grindfest and go back in. This usually gets me to about the 30-40 round range.
I haven't seen much about this stamina thing except for the fact that grinding stops being so nice after it drops below 80, so I usually call it a day when it gets there. Realistically, with my current grinding methods, I get about 4 levels a day in about an hour's worth of grinding.
My setup's in the next post, since apparently I can't post URLs with my first post.
I'm still dubious as to what kind of gear I should use, but I haven't been paying it much attention either. I've dabbled with 2 handed weapons (don't like them very much) and I've tried magic for a very brief period of time (I don't think I have the stats to do it yet). I'd been using an axe and a shield for a long while until I found out that I could actually dual wield! As far as gear is going, I'm trying to find a good offhand weapon to complement my axe. A rapier with 10+% parry and a decent duration of penetrated armor would be nice.
As far as stats go, I'm wondering if it's possible to up my agility high enough that I can do more than 1 attack per turn, like some monsters used to do when my agi was still 1.
I only actually actively use 2 skills; Cure and Shield. I'm honestly not sure if any of the other ones would be good for long term grinding, other than Haste. And that costs quite a bit to use regularly.
I have no special auras, no hath perks, and I can barely handle Heroic for more than 5 rounds, so I'm usually stuck on Normal or Hard.
I'm also, as you can see, quite poor. Most of the credits I earn go into the trainer, usually for Adept Learner, and either Archaeologist or Quartermaster when I go to sleep. I'm honestly not sure if this gets any better when my level gets higher.
I'd fought a Mithra yesterday during a grindfest, she had about 6.5k HP and was a pretty decent challenge. I'd like to find more of these monsters, but I'm not sure if it was just pure luck that I found one, or if anything affects the chances of meeting one.
So as you can see, beyond the very basics (if that), I've got almost no idea what I'm doing. Can anyone point me in a good direction?
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Aug 14 2011, 01:54
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Koudesu
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Aug 14 2011, 05:44
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HaliZorat
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Ideally, what's better for getting better drops: High difficulty on a Crude item, or low difficulty on a Superior item (I've yet to get an Exquisite...)? Or does the quality of the item not matter at all? Want to restock on Mana Potions and I'm not too keen on spending that many credits on them to get a ton at once.
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Aug 14 2011, 11:21
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(Koudesu @ Aug 14 2011, 02:54)  Pics
Mana tank ability points > everything. Especially +EXP points. Your WIS stat is WAY too low. That is the reason you go dry so fast. Are you sure you want to stick to Heavy armor? As for me, I decided to revert to Light when I was at lvl120 with over 100 Heavy armor proficiency and it was still better for me.
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Aug 14 2011, 13:11
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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I wonder if +Exp bonus wrom Black/White/Rainbow auras is a "+X% Exp overall" bonus or it simply stacks additively with Abilities/training?
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Aug 14 2011, 13:37
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 14 2011, 07:44)  Ideally, what's better for getting better drops: High difficulty on a Crude item, or low difficulty on a Superior item (I've yet to get an Exquisite...)? Or does the quality of the item not matter at all? Want to restock on Mana Potions and I'm not too keen on spending that many credits on them to get a ton at once.
High difficulty on High-quality item. I usually grinding Exquisites on Heroic now. Quality of the item is important, at least many players said what you'll get better drop amount and quality on the high quality IW.
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