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post Nov 25 2015, 17:40
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 25 2015, 16:38) *

Nah, scavenger is the worst. First, even all 50 gives only 2,5% additional chance. Our drop is base 10 + pl bonus (up to 15%, but usually its ~12,7 as i remember for 300lvl+). So it becomes 22,7-25,2% range (11% additional loot for 50 trainings or 0,22% for individual). In other words if you get 100k credits/day then its 220 credits for each lvl of scavenger training. Even 70k means 318 days payback.

no Scavenger, no LotD... Archeologist maybe? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 25 2015, 18:44
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Its the best. Arti drops on any diff and each cost ~15k.
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post Nov 25 2015, 19:25
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As i was "feeding" the monsters one got a win (before feeding 5, after feeding 6).
Didn't give anything on that moment nor when i went to the general monster page.
In cases like these do you get a "whatever" and it just won't show, or if you missed it, ... you missed it?
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post Nov 25 2015, 19:45
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A bit too high level but if anyone is in need for niten, there is a leg waki in the bazaar

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b9c73acccb
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post Nov 25 2015, 20:07
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 25 2015, 18:45) *

A bit too high level but if anyone is in need for niten, there is a leg waki in the bazaar

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b9c73acccb

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post Nov 25 2015, 20:29
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Ok, different question in order to make sure i understood how the item bot shop works.

If i check at the "item shop bot" the low-grade leather we have

Minimum Price: 200C
Current High Bid: 250C

So now if i go to the shop and sell 1 piece of low grade leather for 2C, i'll get these 2C and a % of the offer from the people that have placed the bid (111C in this case).
The item will not go to the shop but to the person with the highest offer (250 in this case) and the limits are as in the wiki.

Now checking Mid-Grade leather we have

Minimum Price: 1000C
Current High Bid: -

In this case nobody has an offer running so if i go to the store and sell 1 mid-grade leather for 10C, i'll get the 10C, the item will end up in the "materials" page of the item store for a limited time and that's that. Even if someone places a bid later on, or they buy it directly from the bazaar item shop, i'm left with the 10C.

Correct me if i got it wrong somewhere.
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post Nov 25 2015, 23:27
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Why isn’t [puu.sh] this one winning any battles? T.T
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post Nov 25 2015, 23:42
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QUOTE(Infinal @ Nov 25 2015, 21:27) *
Why isn’t [puu.sh] this one winning any battles? T.T
Below PL ~800 and above Pl ~100, wins are very very scarce. You either need to invest next to no crystals at all, or a ton, or you won't get wins.
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post Nov 25 2015, 23:53
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QUOTE(Infinal @ Nov 26 2015, 00:27) *

Why isn’t [puu.sh] this one winning any battles? T.T

Because range for many players starting from 800+ and even here its not often cos high competition. My 1k monster maybe winning once in few days. So you shouldnt rly invest crystals in lab. It wont payback in few years at least.
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post Nov 26 2015, 02:23
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Are useful bindings dropped only from monsters when they win, or is it just completely random and even low level monster without wins may drop something expensive?
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post Nov 26 2015, 02:28
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 26 2015, 01:23) *

Are useful bindings dropped only from monsters when they win, or is it just completely random and even low level monster without wins may drop something expensive?

Yes, it's possible for low level monster to drop phazon/slaughter or other very rare bindings.
That's the main reason why an army of PL25 monster is a very good option in the current "monster meta".
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post Nov 26 2015, 03:47
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 25 2015, 16:23) *

Are useful bindings dropped only from monsters when they win, or is it just completely random and even low level monster without wins may drop something expensive?

It's random.
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post Nov 26 2015, 06:58
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Is this the first time the Lottery has generated the exact same piece of equipment two days in a row? Today was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter, yesterday was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter...
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post Nov 26 2015, 07:09
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Nov 26 2015, 11:58) *

Is this the first time the Lottery has generated the exact same piece of equipment two days in a row? Today was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter, yesterday was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter...

yes , I think so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 26 2015, 09:07
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Nov 26 2015, 05:58) *

Is this the first time the Lottery has generated the exact same piece of equipment two days in a row? Today was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter, yesterday was a Peerless Ethereal Axe of Slaughter...

yup. i just looked at Lottery and thought about a deja-vu (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 26 2015, 09:09
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Sometimes I wonder if the lottery is rigged by Tenboro. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 26 2015, 09:24
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Nov 26 2015, 09:09) *

Sometimes I wonder if the lottery is rigged by Tenboro. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


not until we get consecutive days of Peerless ___ Shortsword of Balances (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 26 2015, 10:57
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2015, 03:12) *
Below PL ~800 and above Pl ~100, wins are very very scarce. You either need to invest next to no crystals at all, or a ton, or you won't get wins.

I agree.
From what I've seen, there are some key PL levels:

PL-25: Abysmal amount of budget required to achieve this. Pretty solid profit for the investment.
PL-500: High Grade materials are now available.
PL-750: Low Grade materials are no more.
PL-1005: Full Scavenger is now available. Monster will always bring 2x Gifts (if you invest enough Token, that is).

For people with poor budget, PL-25 is a bless. For people with a bit of budget, I'd suggest to get to PL-750.

QUOTE(Dammon @ Nov 26 2015, 12:39) *
Sometimes I wonder if the lottery is rigged by Tenboro. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Nov 26 2015, 11:07
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Unassigned gear from 0.81 have their stats fixed? These will not improve if level gets assigned? I am a little confused.
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post Nov 26 2015, 11:14
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Its not so good. I think 750pl has near same wins as 25pl. And difference for materials gonna be ~20k/month without many scavenging levels. Even with cheap crystals like 25k/pack 750pl costs 600k+. Its like spend 120m for 200 monsters and get by 4m back each month.

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