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Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem. So whats an ethereal rapier good for?

Very funny. At my lvl162 I can clear 150+ rounds of IW on Hard the highest (and sometimes I am getting oneshotted through 2500 hp remaining) with burning 4-6 out of 8 godly pots. Onwards to Battletoads, duh...

Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem. So whats an ethereal rapier good for?

Its good for ArPen proc. Pierced target gets quite a damage from Void pokes. Doesn't really matter much if its a Blue slime or FSM I'm poking.

This post has been edited by MiAla: Aug 6 2011, 14:20

Very funny. At my lvl162 I can clear 150+ rounds of IW on Hard the highest (and sometimes I am getting oneshotted through 2500 hp remaining) with burning 4-6 out of 8 godly pots. Onwards to Battletoads, duh...
Its good for ArPen proc. Pierced target gets quite a damage from Void pokes. Doesn't really matter much if its a Blue slime or FSM I'm poking.

Last I checked ArPen is almost completely useless against FSM, Only time I would consider using armor pen is would be against bosses, so its a very situational weapon for me. Trying to figure out what boss or runs ArPen is effective in.

Last I checked ArPen is almost completely useless against FSM, Only time I would consider using armor pen is would be against bosses, so its a very situational weapon for me. Trying to figure out what boss or runs ArPen is effective in.

I am wiping FSM without a single infusion atm.

I have a few question i want to ask.

1.As a DW melee what stat do i need to rise?
2.What spell do i need to learn/is useful?
3.Can i have some advice/tips on the strategy during grindfest?
4.What diffculty level is better?( a vague question but what i am trying to ask is a diffculty that drop good stuff but is not ridiculously hard....if it exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
Thanks in advance XD

1. Str/Dex/Agi are your main stats. Keep Endurance and Wis at around your level.

2. All you need for Leveling up is Shield, Cure and Regen. If you plan to do bosses in Ring of Blood then you need specific skills like Weaken/Bewildered. However at your level I recommend you spending your ability points on EXP Bonus and HP/MP tanks to help you level up. Shield,Cure, and Regen is all you need. Replace shield with Shadow Veil if you're not using Heavy Armor. Shield is only effective when paired with heavy armor and MAYBE Kevlar. But I recommend you just sticking with Cure/Regen + Shield or Shadow Veil depending on equipment. Get to level 100, won't take long trust me. Then you can turn your attention towards monsters in Ring of Blood.

3. Fairly simple, shield yourself, heal when needed and killllllllllll.

4. All depends on how good your equipment is, nobody can answer that but yourself. Sometimes its better to do 10rounds on a very hard difficulty to get exp. Then doing 100+ Rounds on an easier difficulty.

I am wiping FSM without a single infusion atm.

Doesn't mean the ArPen is doing anything to help.....-.-look at damage he takes with ArPen on and with it off. Should be "almost" equal.

15 9 Regen restores 124 points of health.
15 8 Smallka misses the attack against you.
15 7 stares at you disapprovingly hits you for 346 slashing damage.
15 6 Kasumi Tendo uses stares at you disapprovingly
15 5 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
15 4 Banish hits Smallka for 3759 holy damage.
15 3 Kasumi Tendo gains the effect Breached Defense.
15 2 Banish hits Kasumi Tendo for 528 holy damage.
15 1 You cast Banish.

14 7 Regen restores 124 points of health.
14 6 You evade the attack from Smallka.
14 5 Kasumi Tendo hits you for 81 slashing damage.
14 4 Smallka gains the effect Coalesced Mana.
14 3 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
14 2 Smite hits Smallka for 1982 holy damage.
14 1 You cast Smite.

13 8 Regen restores 124 points of health.
13 7 Smallka misses the attack against you.
13 6 Kasumi Tendo hits you for 93 slashing damage.
13 5 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
13 4 Banish hits Smallka for 4062 holy damage.
13 3 Kasumi Tendo gains the effect Breached Defense.
13 2 Banish hits Kasumi Tendo for 452 holy damage.
13 1 You cast Banish.

12 9 Regen restores 124 points of health.
12 8 The effect Coalesced Mana on Smallka has expired.
12 7 Smallka misses the attack against you.
12 6 The effect Breached Defense on Kasumi Tendo has expired.
12 5 You evade the attack from Kasumi Tendo.
12 4 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
12 3 Smite hits Smallka for 2145 holy damage.
12 2 You cast Smite.
12 1 You gain 0.03 points of divine magic proficiency.

Test from round 1 in Grindfest, Challenge Level: IWBTH X25.0 I Wanna Be The Hentai
Not knowing how the formula works, which other guys always have a way with, but for me, i dont bother that much.
hmm, lv200 seems to be too far away~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

+50% on a single target

Grrrr, thanks guys
wondering why they looks the same at my normal arena.. nvm, I get this anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Doesn't mean the ArPen is doing anything to help.....-.-look at damage he takes with ArPen on and with it off. Should be "almost" equal.

Void damage is still being reduced by shield rating. ArPen DOES "fix" that.

1 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 293 void damage.
3 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 313 void damage.
3 2 Tsathoggua gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
6 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 1199 void damage.

5 1 You hit Hrungnir for 536 void damage.
5 3 Hrungnir gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
6 2 You hit Hrungnir for 1391 void damage.
7 1 You crit Hrungnir for 2483 void damage.

9 1 You hit Sugisaki Ringo for 346 void damage.
9 2 Sugisaki Ringo gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
10 1 You hit Sugisaki Ringo for 1449 void damage.

As per FSM, I am hitting him for 250-350 damage and up to 1000-1300 damage while he is ArPen'd


Wish I had an exact copy of my rapier. Sometimes the ArP proc doesnt, well, proc for long enough and overall damage drops significantly. And I just dont feel like using my old offand non-eth rapier >_>

This post has been edited by MiAla: Aug 6 2011, 15:00

Void damage is still being reduced by shield rating. ArPen DOES "fix" that.

1 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 293 void damage.
3 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 313 void damage.
3 2 Tsathoggua gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
6 1 You hit Tsathoggua for 1199 void damage.

5 1 You hit Hrungnir for 536 void damage.
5 3 Hrungnir gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
6 2 You hit Hrungnir for 1391 void damage.
7 1 You crit Hrungnir for 2483 void damage.

9 1 You hit Sugisaki Ringo for 346 void damage.
9 2 Sugisaki Ringo gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
10 1 You hit Sugisaki Ringo for 1449 void damage.

As per FSM, I am hitting him for 250-350 damage and up to 1000-1300 damage while he is ArPen'd
Wish I had an exact copy of my rapier. Sometimes the ArP proc doesnt, well, proc for long enough and overall damage drops significantly. And I just dont feel like using my old offand non-eth rapier >_>

Umm was pointless to post ArPen info on regular mobs, I already know that works.

FSM is a different story, I was told his shield rating is too high for ArPen to be effective or useful against him. Can I see logs of your fight against FSM

Umm was pointless to post ArPen info on regular mobs, I already know that works.

FSM is a different story, I was told his shield rating is too high for ArPen to be effective or useful against him. Can I see logs of your fight against FSM

No you cant, I killed him today about two hours ago. Armor penetration works just fine vs him.
Maybe on IWBTH he DOES have like 5000 shield rating so cutting off ~500 won't do much difference...

I was told his shield rating is too high for ArPen to be effective or useful against him.

This is false.

Where did you heard about this anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

No you cant, I killed him today about two hours ago. Armor penetration works just fine vs him.
Maybe on IWBTH he DOES have like 5000 shield rating so cutting off ~500 won't do much difference...

Ah i forgot to factor in the difficulty xD makes sense now. Don't think rapier is for me then if its effectiveness becomes useless due to higher difficulty.

This is false.

Where did you heard about this anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Read it yesterday where somebody posted damage vs FSM with and without ArPen, the difference in damage was about 10. Pretty sure the conversation at the time was about doing FSM on IWBTH difficulty.

Ah i forgot to factor in the difficulty xD makes sense now. Don't think rapier is for me then if its effectiveness becomes useless due to higher difficulty.

Are you telling me you're farming this game on BT/IWBTH? It was you who suggested me to clear my rapier IW on BT, right?

Are you telling me you're farming this game on BT/IWBTH? It was you who suggested me to clear my rapier IW on BT, right?

Yes I do play this game for the most part on IWBTH. Playing on IWBTH is my main source of exp, I've gone from 100-130 within a couple of days. Leveling up your equipment is very well possible to do on BT. Not the easiest thing to do without a doubt, but definitely not impossible.

Yes I do play this game for the most part on IWBTH. Playing on IWBTH is my main source of exp, I've gone from 100-130 within a couple of days. Leveling up your equipment is very well possible to do on BT. Not the easiest thing to do without a doubt, but definitely not impossible.

Interesting. How many rounds can you play on BT/IWBTH per trial?

Can you quote where do you read it from? I'm kinda curious.

Interesting. How many rounds can you play on BT/IWBTH per trial?

I average 10 rounds per trial. Takes about 3 trials to level up at around my level. This is what I do for EXP, as my main goal is to get access to higher level Arenas. This was the best way I could think of to utilizing the 50% bonus xp from stamina. Quality over quantity. I'll powerlevel right now, I'll try to go from 131-140 as fast as I can.

@Buktore I'll look for it.

This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 15:32

I average 10 rounds per trial. Takes about 3 trials to level up at around my level. This is what I do for EXP, as my main goal is to get access to higher level Arenas. This was the best way I could think of to utilizing the 50% bonus xp from stamina. Quality over quantity. I'll powerlevel right now, I'll try to go from 131-140 as fast as I can.

Then you can stop talking about playing 150 levels in BT/IWBTH now.

I average 10 rounds per trial. Takes about 3 trials to level up at around my level. This is what I do for EXP, as my main goal is to get access to higher level Arenas. This was the best way I could think of to utilizing the 50% bonus xp from stamina. Quality over quantity. I'll powerlevel right now, I'll try to go from 131-140 as fast as I can.

@Buktore I'll look for it.

Wait, so you're not actually COMPLETING the arenas and IWs?
/facepalm

Wait, so you're not actually COMPLETING the arenas and IWs?
/facepalm

Completing 50 levels in arena is totally different from completing 5 levels in IW for 10 times. Especially in BT.
It's painful to level up those equipments now.