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post Aug 6 2011, 02:12
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 6 2011, 04:10) *

It will take me a loooong time to level up my beauty...
Is there any way to speed up an IW leveling process?

Higher difficulty and Spelunker skill.
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post Aug 6 2011, 02:26
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 5 2011, 17:10) *

It will take me a loooong time to level up my beauty...
Is there any way to speed up an IW leveling process?


Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem. So whats an ethereal rapier good for?
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post Aug 6 2011, 03:58
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So I have for the first time a spare ability point I don't know what to do with.
I consider Lifestream only useful when playing on higher difficulties against legendaries or gods. hos is the spell calcutta, does anyone know?
does divine rating give a bonus on cure like divine EDB does?

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post Aug 6 2011, 05:06
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Aug 5 2011, 14:53) *

Oh, ok, I'll bring up 1Flower and 2bubber and kick the FSM's butt by using them when it nearly dead

Do you remember how much HP does FSM have when u'r 110lv?

Hardly remember the exact hp, sorry.
In fact i haven't planed to make a guidance of any kind so i didn't record any besides the last round.
All these are just coincident.

75 11 You gain 200056 Credits!
75 10 You gain 14442.06 EXP!
75 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
75 8 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
75 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Buckler of Protection]
75 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
75 5 You are Victorious!
75 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
75 3 Banish blasts Flying Spaghetti Monster for 58235 holy damage.
75 2 You cast Banish.
75 1 You gain 0.03 points of divine magic proficiency.

I do want some advices on IPU, which is my last goal in this game.

QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Aug 5 2011, 14:53) *

And.. do you think 1Flower + 2bubber can kick out 1/5 hp of FSM?

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post Aug 6 2011, 05:09
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I'm hoping to raise my Deprecating Proficiency so I can make any encounters I have with bosses in the arena or the Item World a bit shorter and easier by raising Poison's damage and duration. What would be a better way to raise it: Crude Item World or Grindfest under Cake setting?

Grindfest would give me credits (although likely tiny amounts), but would drain my stamina faster (or did I misunderstand what Tenboro meant by that?), while Item World wouldn't give me any credits, but I'd get more rounds in for my Stamina, right? (Not interested in using Drinks, so I usually just play till I have 80 Stamina)
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:18
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 5 2011, 20:09) *

I'm hoping to raise my Deprecating Proficiency so I can make any encounters I have with bosses in the arena or the Item World a bit shorter and easier by raising Poison's damage and duration. What would be a better way to raise it: Crude Item World or Grindfest under Cake setting?

Grindfest would give me credits (although likely tiny amounts), but would drain my stamina faster (or did I misunderstand what Tenboro meant by that?), while Item World wouldn't give me any credits, but I'd get more rounds in for my Stamina, right? (Not interested in using Drinks, so I usually just play till I have 80 Stamina)


Just spam weaken on the same mob over n over and burn through mana potions if you want to level it up fast. Leave the fight when you're outta mana potions and do it all over again.
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:20
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 6 2011, 05:09) *

I'm hoping to raise my Deprecating Proficiency so I can make any encounters I have with bosses in the arena or the Item World a bit shorter and easier by raising Poison's damage and duration. What would be a better way to raise it: Crude Item World or Grindfest under Cake setting?

Grindfest would give me credits (although likely tiny amounts), but would drain my stamina faster (or did I misunderstand what Tenboro meant by that?), while Item World wouldn't give me any credits, but I'd get more rounds in for my Stamina, right? (Not interested in using Drinks, so I usually just play till I have 80 Stamina)


raising deprecating prof is costly, since it's not used so much like elemental prof, supportive or cure.
just use up all your mana before arena ends, keep an weak monster alive so you don't waste too much mana on keeping yourself alive.
item quality and difficulty does not influence prof gaining, but on cake with flimsy/crude you will not waste so much mana on cure/regen.

look how much credits you gain per 20 used stamina, if it's more than an energy drink costs than you're on the good side. if not, look if you can do more with a higher difficulty level.
somewhere varst wrote about it, IIRC he said hard works for him better than heroic grindfest, but that's been awhile and I don't know if it was before or after the recent patch.
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:29
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ Aug 5 2011, 20:20) *

raising deprecating prof is costly, since it's not used so much like elemental prof, supportive or cure.
just use up all your mana before arena ends, keep an weak monster alive so you don't waste too much mana on keeping yourself alive.
item quality and difficulty does not influence prof gaining, but on cake with flimsy/crude you will not waste so much mana on cure/regen.

look how much credits you gain per 20 used stamina, if it's more than an energy drink costs than you're on the good side. if not, look if you can do more with a higher difficulty level.
somewhere varst wrote about it, IIRC he said hard works for him better than heroic grindfest, but that's been awhile and I don't know if it was before or after the recent patch.


My deprecating proficiency is higher then both my curative and supportive. All depends on how you play. If you do runs that requires deprecating it'll level up just as fast or faster then curative/supportive. If you stick to easier difficulties like normal-hard etc deprecating won't get leveled up cause theres no need for it. I run IWBTH for EXP so I spam a lot of deprecating.
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:31
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 5 2011, 23:18) *

Just spam weaken on the same mob over n over and burn through mana potions if you want to level it up fast. Leave the fight when you're outta mana potions and do it all over again.


Huh, never noticed Weaken has less MP usage. Thanks.

QUOTE(Vasistas @ Aug 5 2011, 23:20) *

raising deprecating prof is costly, since it's not used so much like elemental prof, supportive or cure.
just use up all your mana before arena ends, keep an weak monster alive so you don't waste too much mana on keeping yourself alive.
item quality and difficulty does not influence prof gaining, but on cake with flimsy/crude you will not waste so much mana on cure/regen.

look how much credits you gain per 20 used stamina, if it's more than an energy drink costs than you're on the good side. if not, look if you can do more with a higher difficulty level.
somewhere varst wrote about it, IIRC he said hard works for him better than heroic grindfest, but that's been awhile and I don't know if it was before or after the recent patch.


I'm not looking to raise it to high amounts in a short amount of time. It's more of a "Hey I can use this leftover stamina from the arena to do this instead of getting more EXP". I can barely last 50 rounds on Grindfest on Normal last time I tried (which was probably under level 100), so Hard probably isn't going to be an option for me. My question about which one is better is more along the lines of "In what instance do they do less damage to me so I can spend less MP healing?", since I know difficulty and weapon quality doesn't affect proficiency gain.
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:39
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 5 2011, 20:31) *

Huh, never noticed Weaken has less MP usage. Thanks.
I'm not looking to raise it to high amounts in a short amount of time. It's more of a "Hey I can use this leftover stamina from the arena to do this instead of getting more EXP". I can barely last 50 rounds on Grindfest on Normal last time I tried (which was probably under level 100), so Hard probably isn't going to be an option for me. My question about which one is better is more along the lines of "In what instance do they do less damage to me so I can spend less MP healing?", since I know difficulty and weapon quality doesn't affect proficiency gain.


Then my best advice to you is do what I do, do runs in IWBTH, grindfest/IW/Arena don't matter just make sure it's IWBTH. For me I NEED to use deprecating a lot, however if you're capable of IWBTH the xp gain is really nice at our level. I think I went from 121-130 within 24 hrs.
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:53
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 5 2011, 23:39) *

Then my best advice to you is do what I do, do runs in IWBTH, grindfest/IW/Arena don't matter just make sure it's IWBTH. For me I NEED to use deprecating a lot, however if you're capable of IWBTH the xp gain is really nice at our level. I think I went from 121-130 within 24 hrs.


Couldn't even handle the first arena round in IWBTH last time I tried. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Then again, I haven't used Weaken that often. Is Weaken that good?
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post Aug 6 2011, 05:59
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 6 2011, 05:53) *

Couldn't even handle the first arena round in IWBTH last time I tried. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Then again, I haven't used Weaken that often. Is Weaken that good?


weaken is ok, especially for deprecating prof because it's the cheapest spell.
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post Aug 6 2011, 06:09
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 5 2011, 20:53) *

Couldn't even handle the first arena round in IWBTH last time I tried. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Then again, I haven't used Weaken that often. Is Weaken that good?


I keep EVERY mob either weakened or silenced depending on what mob it is. I poison everything too just to speed up the killing. DPS them down after that and just keep the weaken/silence or bewilder on the mob. I was once 1shotted from full HP by a spell crit off a monster. So make sure you pay attention and know what monsters will cast elemental spells (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

It's really fast exp if you can do it, I mean when i first did it, 2 runs usually got me a level. A run lasted about 7-10rounds, so getting a level from doing 14-20 rounds is really nice. My deprecating, curative, supportive are all about equal levels.
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post Aug 6 2011, 06:15
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 00:09) *

I keep EVERY mob either weakened or silenced depending on what mob it is. I poison everything too just to speed up the killing. DPS them down after that and just keep the weaken/silence or bewilder on the mob. I was once 1shotted from full HP by a spell crit off a monster. So make sure you pay attention and know what monsters will cast elemental spells (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

It's really fast exp if you can do it, I mean when i first did it, 2 runs usually got me a level. A run lasted about 7-10rounds, so getting a level from doing 14-20 rounds is really nice. My deprecating, curative, supportive are all about equal levels.


Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Though I should probably get Silence maxed out first before attempting that.
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post Aug 6 2011, 06:44
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QUOTE(karururu @ Aug 6 2011, 11:06) *

Hardly remember the exact hp, sorry.
In fact i haven't planed to make a guidance of any kind so i didn't record any besides the last round.
All these are just coincident.

75 11 You gain 200056 Credits!
75 10 You gain 14442.06 EXP!
75 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
75 8 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
75 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Buckler of Protection]
75 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
75 5 You are Victorious!
75 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
75 3 Banish blasts Flying Spaghetti Monster for 58235 holy damage.
75 2 You cast Banish.
75 1 You gain 0.03 points of divine magic proficiency.

I do want some advices on IPU, which is my last goal in this game.
Yes, and never forget Infusion of Divinity. You must keep it active all the way.

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh, and one more question
Why using Banish instead of Smite? Isn't they've got the same dmg when there is only 1 mob?
Just tested one time.. Smite and Banish's dmg are so close when atking the same mob

For IPU... I think the best way is wait for ur dark magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Oh, and set ur goal to being a godslayer, which hunting down the lv200's arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 6 2011, 09:21
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Aug 6 2011, 06:44) *

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh, and one more question
Why using Banish instead of Smite? Isn't they've got the same dmg when there is only 1 mob?
Just tested one time.. Smite and Banish's dmg are so close when atking the same mob

For IPU... I think the best way is wait for ur dark magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Oh, and set ur goal to being a godslayer, which hunting down the lv200's arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


15 9 Regen restores 124 points of health.
15 8 Smallka misses the attack against you.
15 7 stares at you disapprovingly hits you for 346 slashing damage.
15 6 Kasumi Tendo uses stares at you disapprovingly
15 5 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
15 4 Banish hits Smallka for 3759 holy damage.
15 3 Kasumi Tendo gains the effect Breached Defense.
15 2 Banish hits Kasumi Tendo for 528 holy damage.
15 1 You cast Banish.

14 7 Regen restores 124 points of health.
14 6 You evade the attack from Smallka.
14 5 Kasumi Tendo hits you for 81 slashing damage.
14 4 Smallka gains the effect Coalesced Mana.
14 3 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
14 2 Smite hits Smallka for 1982 holy damage.
14 1 You cast Smite.

13 8 Regen restores 124 points of health.
13 7 Smallka misses the attack against you.
13 6 Kasumi Tendo hits you for 93 slashing damage.
13 5 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
13 4 Banish hits Smallka for 4062 holy damage.
13 3 Kasumi Tendo gains the effect Breached Defense.
13 2 Banish hits Kasumi Tendo for 452 holy damage.
13 1 You cast Banish.

12 9 Regen restores 124 points of health.
12 8 The effect Coalesced Mana on Smallka has expired.
12 7 Smallka misses the attack against you.
12 6 The effect Breached Defense on Kasumi Tendo has expired.
12 5 You evade the attack from Kasumi Tendo.
12 4 Smallka gains the effect Breached Defense.
12 3 Smite hits Smallka for 2145 holy damage.
12 2 You cast Smite.
12 1 You gain 0.03 points of divine magic proficiency.

Test from round 1 in Grindfest, Challenge Level: IWBTH X25.0 I Wanna Be The Hentai
Not knowing how the formula works, which other guys always have a way with, but for me, i dont bother that much.
hmm, lv200 seems to be too far away~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Aug 6 2011, 10:21
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Putting AP into an AoE spell increases its damage, up to 25% when maxed.
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post Aug 6 2011, 10:46
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post Aug 6 2011, 12:19
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I have a few question i want to ask.

1.As a DW melee what stat do i need to rise?
2.What spell do i need to learn/is useful?
3.Can i have some advice/tips on the strategy during grindfest?
4.What diffculty level is better?( a vague question but what i am trying to ask is a diffculty that drop good stuff but is not ridiculously hard....if it exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
Thanks in advance XD


Did i ask my question in the wrong place?
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post Aug 6 2011, 12:37
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Did i ask my question in the wrong place?


1. Endurance needs to be at or near your level.
2. Get the supportive spells: Shield, Shadow Veil, Haste. Shield is probably the most important, it blocks quite a bit of damage so you don't have to keep casting curative spells all the time; since you're DW you have to kill each monster one at a time, which takes a lot of turns. Deprecating spells are also good: Weaken and Poison are musts for bosses and legendaries. When you gain some more levels, Bewilder and Regen are also good spells to get.
3. I dunno, don't die? Just keep going until you run out of mana pots.
4. Depends... if you want to gain levels as quickly as possible, do as high as you can. If you want to grind proficiencies, use lower levels.
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