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post Nov 4 2015, 15:30
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 4 2015, 14:23) *

Sure. Simple damage formula is:
Magic bade damage * (1+spell damage bonus/100)
So if you equip 1 phase robe with 50 spell damage, than you increase damage in 1,5 times. You need 3-4 phases (you can use 3 without prof forge on cloth). Many leg phases cost only 50-200k if no one interested in that. The one which cost 2m+ is usually almost same, but with prefix like charged. You wont see bit difference, but at some stage only this rare drop can make set better. So ppl spend huge amount even if its only few % increase. But core set wont price much.

May i see you equip?


But what about elemental profficiency? Is it not worth caring about?
My set so far:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2b29c66373
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1be13b0d93 [bought it yesterday, still waiting for cod]
This cap I'm using right now http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=327416d4ef
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=801bcd785c
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1ad911d2cf
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=568343bc58
These pants wait for fusing http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=46fb231826
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=226b113732

I got whole set for about 1m because I'm poor as shit.

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post Nov 4 2015, 15:42
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Why do you have tempestous of niflheim staff and surtr cap (charged of protection doesn't sound good either)?
I think you should focus on a single element.

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post Nov 4 2015, 15:45
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 4 2015, 14:42) *

Why do you have tempestous of niflheim staff and surtr cap (charged of protection doesn't sound good either)?
I think you should focus on a single element.

Cap is from shrine drop, staff is just the best I could get from market. But why focusing on one element when I'm using all four?

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post Nov 4 2015, 15:46
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what element you use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

wind , cold or fire (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 4 2015, 15:51
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 14:45) *

Cap is from shrine drop, staff is just the best I could get from market. But why focusing on one element when I use all four?

Because elemental mage is about optimizing for only one element (so probably 3 or 4 phases with the same "of xxx" suffix, related staff and spike shield that decreases the corresponding mitigation.
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post Nov 4 2015, 15:58
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 4 2015, 14:46) *

what element you use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

wind , cold or fire (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


All four, one after another, so I can utilize previous spell mitigation drop. Did I play this game wrong for 275 levels? I though it's natural to use one elemental spell after another because they have 4 turns cd and usually debuffs mitigations.
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post Nov 4 2015, 16:03
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 20:58) *

All four, one after another, so I can utilize previous spell mitigation drop. Did I play this game wrong for 275 levels? I though it's natural to use one elemental spell after another because they have 4 turns cd and usually debuffs mitigations.


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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 4 2015, 20:51) *

Because elemental mage is about optimizing for only one element (so probably 3 or 4 phases with the same "of xxx" suffix, related staff and spike shield that decreases the corresponding mitigation.

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post Nov 4 2015, 16:05
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 14:58) *

All four, one after another, so I can utilize previous spell mitigation drop. Did I play this game wrong for 275 levels? I though it's natural to use one elemental spell after another because they have 4 turns cd and usually debuffs mitigations.

T1 spells should have 0 cooldown.
T2 spells at your level should have CD=3
T3 spells at your level should have CD=5

The idea is to rotate between T1, T2 and T3, not between elements.
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post Nov 4 2015, 16:07
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Ok I can understand using one element, but what about cooldown of said element? Or are you saying I'm supposed to use all 3 tiers of one elemental spell? Because I discarded first tier spells completely.

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 4 2015, 15:05) *

T1 spells should have 0 cooldown.
T2 spells at your level should have CD=3
T3 spells at your level should have CD=5

The idea is to rotate between T1, T2 and T3, not between elements.


Ok, I understand now. Better now than on lvl 500 I guess.
Any tips about best element to use?
Btw should I care about elemental proficiency items then? Or is prof really not worth caring about?

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post Nov 4 2015, 16:19
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 20:58) *

All four, one after another, so I can utilize previous spell mitigation drop. Did I play this game wrong for 275 levels? I though it's natural to use one elemental spell after another because they have 4 turns cd and usually debuffs mitigations.

choose 1 element (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 4 2015, 16:21
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Aria sent me awesome legendary fiery staff for free, so I'll stick with fire element. Thanks for help everybody.
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post Nov 4 2015, 16:37
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Good guy aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
pls send me some peerless savage power slaughter
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post Nov 4 2015, 16:40
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 4 2015, 21:37) *

Good guy aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
pls send me some peerless savage power slaughter


I have a poorful slaughter helmet still want it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: typo

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post Nov 4 2015, 16:42
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 12:04) *
What are good defensive stats for mages around 300 lvl to clear 110+ lvl arenas on iwbth/pfudor? Because with stats like that [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/Fd3UtGo.jpg I only got 3 very first arenas on pfudor and lvl 70 arena on nintendo. Rest is done easily on hell, but nintendo rapes me hard. I'm using weaken and imperil on every monster, yet still they kill me easily when stacked for 8-10 every round. What am I doing wrong?
For higher difficulty, you need level 310 first at least so you can Imperil 3 at once. You also shouldn't use Weaken - its action time (and the damage taken during) isn't worth the amount of damage saved, for mage. Better to just attack and kill the monsters.

(Oh, and also just use one element (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 4 2015, 21:40) *

I have a poorful slaughter helmet still want it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: typo

I want leg power helmet of slaughter too , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 17:21) *

Aria sent me awesome legendary fiery staff for free, so I'll stick with fire element. Thanks for help everybody.

I also use fire.
Which suffix it has? You mostly need only some additional amount of prof. Because you dont have imperil than you can use 2-3 cotton of elementalist for that and rest is phase. If that staff have elementalist suffix, than use only 1-2 cotton. You need some balance between prof and edb which gives phase of surtr and perfect is 1+4 with prof forge and imperil, but its expensive and only possibly after 310lvl. After that even the weakest T1 fire spell gonna hit 30k+.

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 4 2015, 15:46) *

I also use fire.
Which suffix it has? You mostly need only some additional amount of prof. Because you dont have imperil than you can use 2-3 cotton of elementalist for that and rest is phase. If that staff have elementalist suffix, than use only 1-2 cotton. You need some balance between prof and edb which gives phase of surtr and perfect is 1+4 with prof forge and imperil, but its expensive and only possibly after 310lvl. After that even the weakest T1 fire spell gonna hit 30k+.


It's focus, but it's for 433 lvl, so I'll get something else from market for now. Should I look for elementalist or destruction staff? I have no idea how scaling in this game works so I struggle choosing between element prof/element damage/magic damage bonus. Not sure which one is the best.

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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 4 2015, 15:23) *
It's focus, but it's for 433 lvl, so I'll get something else from market for now. Should I look for elementalist or destruction staff? I have no idea how scaling in this game works so I struggle choosing between element prof/element damage/magic damage bonus. Not sure which one is the best.
Destruction is best if you're going to forge significantly, but you probably aren't going to, at least not until you get another staff that starts in the 400+ level range. Finding any good staff with matching type/prefix/suffix is probably the best idea - at your level, there's very little to choose from, so you might just use whatever you can find that doesn't have any significant downsides.
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 4 2015, 21:44) *

I want leg power helmet of slaughter too , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


I'm a poor mage who use a focus staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 4 2015, 22:46) *

I'm a poor mage who use a focus staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

you use peerless/legendary demonic willow of destruction , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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