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post Oct 30 2015, 17:56
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speaking of which, is excessive trolling reportable?
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post Oct 30 2015, 17:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 30 2015, 23:42) *

going hollow? sorry, i don't get it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Hollow is a degenerative state in Hentaiverse, in which those that are grinders are doomed to eventually become.
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:03
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 30 2015, 12:21) *

1. i bought my gold star a couple of months ago or so
2. afterall i'm just a bear who dances around in the game, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Aww *pet pet* ` 3`

I have been wondering, how does HV determine equipment's quality ? The wiki is kind of outdated, the pxp at lv0 are all wrong O xO
Just want to make sure if I should at least do a few pfudor arenas on 1st page with guaranteed item bonus. The wiki said quality roll at pfudor would be x6, but I still got average equipment somehow O AO
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:04
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 30 2015, 16:58) *

Hollow is a degenerative state in Hentaiverse, in which those that are grinders are doomed to eventually become.

ah, ok. no, i confirm my previous answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, which are all the steps?

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Aww *pet pet* ` 3`

at this point an istinctive question is growing into my mind...

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post Oct 30 2015, 18:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 30 2015, 21:16) *

do you mean active players? i guess skillchip is on the podium. otherwise, atomicpuppy could be quite well-placed as well. surely those two are more ancient than me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yep. I meant active even now.
Those two? Hmm. Makes sense.

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IW/PF, iirc. maybe the last two SGs at nintendo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You don't play DwD at PFUDOR? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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ah, ok. then not, i keep my mental health by dancing and looking at boobies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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at this point an istinctive question is growing into my mind...

Spit it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:13
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 30 2015, 16:03) *
I have been wondering, how does HV determine equipment's quality ? The wiki is kind of outdated, the pxp at lv0 are all wrong O xO
Just want to make sure if I should at least do a few pfudor arenas on 1st page with guaranteed item bonus. The wiki said quality roll at pfudor would be x6, but I still got average equipment somehow O AO
We can still get Average junk on PF, but only as clear bonuses. Ordinary drops from monsters are always Superior+. You're right, it's not very sensical.
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:15
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 30 2015, 17:11) *

You don't play DwD at PFUDOR? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

why should i? i grow bored after half an hour, reward will be crappy anyways and i want to preserve my mental health, remember? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Spit it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

hey, hey - you're disappointing me. a bit of fantasy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:17
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 30 2015, 16:58) *

Hollow is a degenerative state in Hentaiverse, in which those that are grinders are doomed to eventually become.

Do you end up with half HP at the end?
Because otherwise where's the fun in it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 31 2015, 00:04) *

ah, ok. no, i confirm my previous answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw, which are all the steps?

I think its stepless, or just like a slope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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The exact process of turning Hollow is not entirely clear. Many grinders characters encountered in hv will eventually turn Hollow if certain prerequisites are met. Most characters are fearful of going Hollow and try to ward it off as much as possible, though the followers of snowflake seems to find the prospect of going Hollow to be desirable.

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The symptomatology of being Hollow is primarily characterized by a lack of free will. Those that are Hollow may still have attractions to things they valued as living and Undead. This might explain why so many have maintained stations at various posts as well as their aggression towards non-Hollows.

Beyond this, drastic changes in physical appearance can be observed. Skin appears slightly decomposed and the body thoroughly dehydrated, prominent veins can be seen surrounding the heart although physical signs may only be indicative of progression into a Hollowed state and not of being entirely Hollowed.

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In general, it seems that grinders go Hollow more quickly when they have no further goals or purpose


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post Oct 30 2015, 18:26
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Im getting ~1leg each 5-6 days. Doing only pf arenas.
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:29
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 30 2015, 23:26) *

Im getting ~1leg each 5-6 days. Doing only pf arenas.

so that peerless rapier come from arenas too , nec (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

stop playing GF now ?

without cryst5 , GF run is not so profitable for me now + ED price is 64k now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


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post Oct 30 2015, 18:45
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 30 2015, 13:13) *

We can still get Average junk on PF, but only as clear bonuses. Ordinary drops from monsters are always Superior+. You're right, it's not very sensical.


Boooo O xO I have been doing it for a long time for nothing >"<

And I just got an average staff in IWBTH random encounter O AO Does it mean I just got such a bad bad bad roll that even after x5 it's still in average range Q xQ ? Or does it work like, you got a static base quality, and got a bonus (which would get multiplied based on difficulty) added on top. The later makes more sense to me O xO. That, or HV is broken Q xQ
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post Oct 30 2015, 18:50
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 30 2015, 23:45) *

Boooo O xO I have been doing it for a long time for nothing >"<

And I just got an average staff in IWBTH random encounter O AO Does it mean I just got such a bad bad bad roll that even after x5 it's still in average range Q xQ ? Or does it work like, you got a static base quality, and got a bonus (which would get multiplied based on difficulty) added on top. The later makes more sense to me O xO. That, or HV is broken Q xQ

luck playing big part for that now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

in the past , LoTD affect clear bonus drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

now everything is base on luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 30 2015, 19:05
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 30 2015, 21:45) *

why should i? i grow bored after half an hour, reward will be crappy anyways and i want to preserve my mental health, remember? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You're forgetting that PFUDOR DwD Clear Bonus is now at least Mag grade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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hey, hey - you're disappointing me. a bit of fantasy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 30 2015, 21:53) *

I think its stepless, or just like a slope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

www.epic.com (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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Im getting ~1leg each 5-6 days. Doing only pf arenas.

Speaking of which, what is your current Token drop ratio?
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post Oct 30 2015, 19:06
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Yep. Well, for last few months i probably did 4-5 fest runs (hellfest is very fast, its probably lower than 1hour). Cry5 doesnt rly help. I mean i get 25k or maybe more crystals per hour. With cry5 its 25k additional which is roughly 50k credits. Its still solid, but 36m+ not so easy to payback with only 50k/hour. At the same time arena got small buff.

Thats probably because i dont play much. If i d have more time than fest still good, specially for selfuse. Amount of crystals only slightly lower and because arti drop is usually ~6-8, than overall its not so big problem with ed.

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Speaking of which, what is your current Token drop ratio?

Not sure, but i think i still can count it.
If i did right, than its +21blood +82chaos for last 5 days.

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post Oct 30 2015, 19:27
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 30 2015, 22:36) *

Not sure, but i think i still can count it.
If i did right, than its +21blood +82chaos for last 5 days.

So around 1:4 ratio, with Tokenizer-I. Without any Tokenizer, it's 1:3 for me. Seems about right.
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 30 2015, 13:50) *

luck playing big part for that now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

in the past , LoTD affect clear bonus drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

now everything is base on luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


So difficulty doesn't affect equipment quality much :C ?
I got 5 average 1 superior from my 3 last IWBTH random encounters, but I got my first legendary there too. It's so... random O xO
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 30 2015, 17:50) *
So difficulty doesn't affect equipment quality much :C ?
I got 5 average 1 superior from my 3 last IWBTH random encounters, but I got my first legendary there too. It's so... random O xO
Difficulty has a very large effect on equipment quality, but for any given equipment drop, you still have a high chance of getting the minimum quality possible. So for PFUDOR, we still see mountains of Superiors, and for IWBTH, I suppose, you still see lots of Averages.
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post Oct 30 2015, 20:00
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 31 2015, 00:06) *

Yep. Well, for last few months i probably did 4-5 fest runs (hellfest is very fast, its probably lower than 1hour). Cry5 doesnt rly help. I mean i get 25k or maybe more crystals per hour. With cry5 its 25k additional which is roughly 50k credits. Its still solid, but 36m+ not so easy to payback with only 50k/hour. At the same time arena got small buff.

Thats probably because i dont play much. If i d have more time than fest still good, specially for selfuse. Amount of crystals only slightly lower and because arti drop is usually ~6-8, than overall its not so big problem with ed.
Not sure, but i think i still can count it.
If i did right, than its +21blood +82chaos for last 5 days.


err , I saw holy demon get 70k+ crystal from finishing PFUfest in his post last month in ponyversechat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Oct 30 2015, 20:00
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How much does elemental strike account for the total damage? In particular, I want to know which rapier I should use (assume I will eventually get IW 10 and lvl 5 upgrades):
Mag shocking of slaughter: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5362d558fb
Exq hallowed of slaughter: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c14f689936

Also, what levels are these two equips good until?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1b76ad0067
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=101340e787

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Since I'm asking so many things, may as well ask one more question: Is this worth anything? The base block seems to be decent (I see many on the market with less base block) but the primary attributes are horrible.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f3252a882d

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