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Yeah, it's an extra layer of defense. You can never have too many of those.
Why do people keep saying high ITR isn't a problem? Unlimited potion use is a mitigation, not a panacea. If I were to be like some folks here and hit the SG arenas at PF I would burn through high double digit digit draughts. Doing Hell+ on the three lower arenas has me doing double digit draughts and some pots. Replacing them is not how I'd want to burn through credits, though I am a "rich" (lower millionaire) user - lots of folks ain't got what I got. Lower ITR is always good, all other things being equal.

In my opinion what should be said is, sacrificing Block for lower ITR should be done with caution, because higher Block is more important than low ITR.

For those who have the freedom to pick between shield types, interference doesn't matter. Especially since nearly everyone 300+ has IA1 or IA2, mana usage isn't a problem by that point. Even if you still have to use a potion now and then, you're not in the red (or at least not by anything worth worrying about). IA is useful not only because of the mana conservation, but because it makes the mana consumption a constant half a point or a point per turn, rather than spikes of 60 or 100 every 70-something turns - so even if IA didn't help mana consumption, it would still decrease potions needed. (if you still don't have any IA, get at least one, you'll love it)

For those at high level, the better block and near nonexistent burden of a force shield is well worth 12% higher interference. For those at low level, a kite shield can be better - not only for interference (though the effect is small), but mainly for the much cheaper forging cost (and everyone should be forging shield block at least some).

wouldnt that reduce the ADB by a high amount? making it really long to clear the rounds? isnt more damage better = the faster you kill a mob the less it can harm you

i posted everything a while back, atm i have power protection/slaughter still.. i dont really need to clear 1000 rounds of a Fest i just want to know how iam able to withstand the crazy damage later.. without falling asleep due to the lack of damage^^

One Shielding Protection will help, but you're right, more than that is sacrificing too much ADB.

Weaken and Sleep are useful for late GF, and have a much larger effect than any gear improvement, but there's no point in GF nowadays, especially for melee.

could you please post those links? i'd like to update wiki

I wanted to as well, but we aren't supposed to. Instead, post it in Skillchip's ranges thread, and he'll do it when he updates it next (else your fixes will just be overwritten).

Emm... Does any of you super rich people ( (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) happen to have one of the

Applejack /Twilight Sparkle / Trixie / Apple Bloom /Lyra Heartstrings / Gummy / Vinyl Scratch / Fluffle Puff figurines

And want to trade one of those for a Pinky pie and/or Princess luna?
I'm missing the last 2 and i have pinky and luna 2x.

I can trade the other, my Twilight Sparkle for your Pinky Pie.

I wanted to as well, but we aren't supposed to. Instead, post it in Skillchip's ranges thread, and he'll do it when he updates it next (else your fixes will just be overwritten).

uhu. just found that info meanwhile. but i already updated wiki, so i sent him a PM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

nice block (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

just missing STR PAB , if not maybe I will bid it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Who knows, since now Leg can roll Pmax Stats, may be that's the new Pmax Block? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Emm... Does any of you super rich people ( (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) happen to have one of the

Applejack /Twilight Sparkle / Trixie / Apple Bloom /Lyra Heartstrings / Gummy / Vinyl Scratch / Fluffle Puff figurines

And want to trade one of those for a Pinky pie and/or Princess luna?
I'm missing the last 2 and i have pinky and luna 2x.

I'm not one of those "super rich people", so I don't count. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

there's no point in GF nowadays, especially for melee.

Only if gf had a drop quality multiplier or even a equipment clear bonus like DwD...

I can trade the other, my Twilight Sparkle for your Pinky Pie.

Ah ha! So you're one of those "super rich people"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I'm not one of those "super rich people", so I don't count. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Last time I saw you have 900m+ gp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I would recommend Buckler of the Barrier over Kite Shield if one wants to lower ITR. Even my rather low roll Buckler (34.xx base block vs. over 37.xx block of the one linked before) is working just fine for me, and the forging is not very expensive. Seems like HG Wood prices have gone up lately for some reason, I got all of mine for 9k max and Binding of the Barrier is also under 9k. DMMs would add much more cost and Kite Shield seems pretty bad when Buckler of the Barrier can have higher block while having lower BUR and ITR. I don't think the prices for Buckler of the Barrier are that high either, considering the highest block one was sold for less than 200k (I would have bid on it if it wasn't so high level), of course it would have been more expensive with better PABs though.

Well...

27 11 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Science Cat for 72942 void damage
27 10 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Need0214 for 64843 void damage
27 9 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Ghost Island T for 96578 void damage
27 8 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Erina Olegovna Aveen for 52516 void damage
27 7 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Darkseid for 62195 void damage
27 6 Yui Die Fee has been defeated.
27 5 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Yui Die Fee for 80292 void damage
27 4 I Fear Mace has been defeated.
27 3 Orbital Friendship Cannon crits I Fear Mace for 124260 void damage
27 2 Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Heshouwu for 94694 void damage
27 1 You use Orbital Friendship Cannon.

Mmm... Not that great... ... ... Oh well. I'm cool with that all the same.

Last time I saw you have 900m+ gp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Nono. DON'T DUCK (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What are the best potencies for an offhand WAKI of balance used for dual wield with a rapier of slaughter?
waki here is the actual item if that matters.

I don't think the prices for Buckler of the Barrier are that high either, considering the highest block one was sold for less than 200k (I would have bid on it if it wasn't so high level)

really? didn't know it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Mmm... Not that great... ... ... Oh well. I'm cool with that all the same.

did you switch spirit stance on?

What are the best potencies for an offhand WAKI of balance used for dual wield with a rapier of slaughter?
waki here is the actual item if that matters.

the best kind of waki for offhand is nimble. balance would surely raise your crit chance, but parry is quite important as well - especially since wakis are cheap.
either way, fatality and overpower

I would recommend Buckler of the Barrier over Kite Shield if one wants to lower ITR. Even my rather low roll Buckler (34.xx base block vs. over 37.xx block of the one linked before) is working just fine for me, and the forging is not very expensive. Seems like HG Wood prices have gone up lately for some reason, I got all of mine for 9k max and Binding of the Barrier is also under 9k. DMMs would add much more cost and Kite Shield seems pretty bad when Buckler of the Barrier can have higher block while having lower BUR and ITR. I don't think the prices for Buckler of the Barrier are that high either, considering the highest block one was sold for less than 200k (I would have bid on it if it wasn't so high level), of course it would have been more expensive with better PABs though.

While buckler does have lower interference, the amount reduced is not much, while giving up a significant amount of potential block in exchange. Not usually worth it (unless of course the player is at a level where they're having trouble finding any shields that aren't trash tier).

the best kind of waki for offhand is nimble. balance would surely raise your crit chance, but parry is quite important as well - especially since wakis are cheap.

Depends on difficulty and forge level, right? High difficulty and low or no forging? May well need Nimble to survive. Low difficulty or high forging? Balance's increased damage output might be better.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Oct 25 2015, 17:06

Who knows, since now Leg can roll Pmax Stats, may be that's the new Pmax Block? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I'm not one of those "super rich people", so I don't count. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Only if gf had a drop quality multiplier or even a equipment clear bonus like DwD...
Ah ha! So you're one of those "super rich people"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

same here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

like my signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

far from rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)



I really wish we can get perk to control what potency we get from IW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

burn around 50 shards , but + fat never pop up , 90% is overpower (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 25 2015, 17:18

the best kind of waki for offhand is nimble. balance would surely raise your crit chance, but parry is quite important as well - especially since wakis are cheap.
either way, fatality and overpower

Depends on difficulty and forge level, right? High difficulty and low or no forging? May well need Nimble to survive. Low difficulty or high forging? Balance's increased damage output might be better.

Yup get a waki of balance/swiftness, a katana and a rapier now you can play 1h dw and niten, or even 2h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Depends on difficulty and forge level, right? High difficulty and low or no forging? May well need Nimble to survive. Low difficulty or high forging? Balance's increased damage output might be better.

Thanks. I am doing low difficulty just to work up my DW prof. I want to be ready if DW gets buffed.

Depends on difficulty and forge level, right? High difficulty and low or no forging? May well need Nimble to survive. Low difficulty or high forging? Balance's increased damage output might be better.

Yup get a waki of balance/swiftness, a katana and a rapier now you can play 1h dw and niten, or even 2h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

dang. to think that i just finished IWing my new waki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

so basically the best choice would be to pick a balance with high crit/parry and forging its parry as much as possible, right?

[edit]: even so, i just noted that +7 crit on waki (from 4.3 to 11.2) means only +3 crit on your build (from 49 to 52)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 25 2015, 17:47

Last time I saw you have 900m+ gp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Meh, I forgot to put the ∞ sign there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

P.S. - But I do put 1 ticket each time, even now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I don't think the prices for Buckler of the Barrier are that high either, considering the highest block one was sold for less than 200k (I would have bid on it if it wasn't so high level)

There have been cases when people didn't give enough attention to auctions in certain days. In such days, it is heaven for buyer (and of course hell for the seller). That Auction was simply one of those unfortunate ones. Otherwise how do you justify some other Buckler of Barriers (With AGI) with 36 base block getting millions in Auctions not so long ago? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

While buckler does have lower interference, the amount reduced is not much, while giving up a significant amount of potential block in exchange. Not usually worth it (unless of course the player is at a level where they're having trouble finding any shields that aren't trash tier).

So you're saying that 37 (unforged) base block is trash? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

same here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

like my signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

far from rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Aww, poor thing! You have my condolence! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) [629]

even so, i just noted that +7 crit on waki (from 4.3 to 11.2) means only +3 crit on your build (from 49 to 52)

Did you forget that Crit Chance is multiplicative?

This post has been edited by tetron: Oct 25 2015, 18:00

Did you forget that Crit Chance is multiplicative?

no, not really. but still, i expected a bit better. parry on that waki is L-1 and dropped by 10 points or so. surely it's not forged, but as for now i don't think it's worth to give up 10 parry for 3 crit - which will still be multiplicatively added with +10 crit form heartseeker, right?

which will still be multiplicatively added with +10 crit form heartseeker, right?

I'm not sure about Heartseeker's true effect. That's something only Tenboro would know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Meh, I forgot to put the ∞ sign there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

P.S. - But I do put 1 ticket each time, even now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
There have been cases when people didn't give enough attention to auctions in certain days. In such days, it is heaven for buyer (and of course hell for the seller). That Auction was simply one of those unfortunate ones. Otherwise how do you justify some other Buckler of Barriers (With AGI) with 36 base block getting millions in Auctions not so long ago? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
So you're saying that 37 (unforged) base block is trash? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Aww, poor thing! You have my condolence! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) [629]
Did you forget that Crit Chance is multiplicative?

hey , isn't that 629 is far too much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

you can donate some of your GP to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , at the last day real auction is begin (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm not sure about Heartseeker's true effect. That's something only Tenboro would know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

whatever. -10 parry for +3 crit? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

no, not really. but still, i expected a bit better. parry on that waki is L-1 and dropped by 10 points or so. surely it's not forged, but as for now i don't think it's worth to give up 10 parry for 3 crit - which will still be multiplicatively added with +10 crit form heartseeker, right?

balance is mainly for the offhand strike chance, you loss a lot of dmg there.

So you're saying that 37 (unforged) base block is trash? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Read clearly. If "the player is at a level where they're having trouble finding any shields that aren't trash tier" (read: level 0-250) then it's not an issue of which type of shield to choose from, but of finding any that are available - in which case, of course, go for a a Mag Bucker or Barrier if it can be found, or anything else.