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post Jul 20 2011, 15:50
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I suppose that does translate to 730K extra creds per year if you fight 3 bosses instead of 1 FSM. (also 2 extra equip drops per day)

I do think you would find something of value on several occasions with 1 FSM trophy vs 3 boss trophies.
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post Jul 20 2011, 15:57
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QUOTE(Tsunade_lover @ Jul 20 2011, 13:50) *

I suppose that does translate to 730K extra creds per year if you fight 3 bosses instead of 1 FSM. (also 2 extra equip drops per day)

I do think you would find something of value on several occasions with 1 FSM trophy vs 3 boss trophies.
Much more than 730k, since the time I lose killing FSM I can use it to do something else and earn more loot.
Finding something useful several times I serious doubt it, especially since I read what others got. Not convinced, especially since I can also get something useful from the extra drops.

It's up to you what you prefer to do, I just stated that clearing FSM isn't the only thing to do.

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post Jul 20 2011, 16:00
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jul 20 2011, 15:57) *

Much more than 730k, since the time I lose killing FSM I can use it to do something else and earn more loot.

Im sure you find much loot in the 20 Seconds it takes to kill FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 16:28
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 20 2011, 14:00) *

Im sure you find much loot in the 20 Seconds it takes to kill FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
You can do it in 20 seconds, I can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Jul 20 2011, 16:32
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 20 2011, 17:06) *

QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Jul 20 2011, 17:00) *

RL is resistance to every elemental spell. Might as well use a curse-weaver set + vase + gum.

That doesn't work after this patch.

Really? Is curse-weaver gear useless now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 16:39
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Jul 20 2011, 16:32) *

That doesn't work after this patch.
Really? Is curse-weaver gear useless now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Curse Weaver only increases the duration now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 16:46
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 20 2011, 22:39) *

Curse Weaver only increases the duration now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Curse-Weaver did increase the power of poison according to formula
But I've tried. Full curse-weaver+vase+bubble gum isn't effective now.

Vase+gum still do tons of damage to God, so they're still useful to shorten the battle time.

By the way, anyone can tell me what's a good waki?
ADM? parry chance? bleeding?
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post Jul 20 2011, 18:20
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 20 2011, 21:46) *
By the way, anyone can tell me what's a good waki?
ADM? parry chance? bleeding?


It's hard to say since it depend on player preference (what you like to have), what kind of katana you use and to a lesser extent, what armor you wearing. However, whatever kind of waki you like, a good bleed chance is essential IMO.

Personally, I use 3 kinds of Waki.

Slaughter : Fine Wakizashi of Slaughter << Good ADM. I would use this exclusively if not for the fact that parry & crit on it is a tad bit low...

Balance : Superior Prism Wakizashi of Balance << I got this one from bazaar ages ago... Its usefulness began to wane now that there's a myriad of way to gain more crit & proc chance. Still pretty good, though, thanks to its nice stats. It also work well with my Slaughter Katana.

Nimble : Superior Wakizashi of the Nimble << Haven't use this much since I'm offensive-oriented player. And after 0.6.0 that give a good boost to Shield spell (which suits me well, since I use lots of kevlar) and mobs do less damage, it's now sitting in my EQ stash, gathering dust as time pass...

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post Jul 20 2011, 18:53
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yeah I think buktore is right. depends a lot on your player preference. i believe the patch may have included niten when it said DW uses highest bleed (would need testing on this), in which case waki with high bleed would be preferred

i'm personally going for a high ADM slaughter one since waki's naturally have decent accuracy so balance isn't too necessary and parry just doesn't seem that great since it's capped at ~12.37 base or w/e?

i guess it'd depend on your equip set. if you're going light/cloth(?) then the nimble might work. but if you're going heavy... probably better off with a slaughter.

and about the convo above... do the small trophies have any remote chance of a magnificient/legendary?
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post Jul 20 2011, 19:12
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Thanks a lot. The things written in wiki seems to be out of date then.
Just curious because I got a waki today and don't know it that's good or not.
When I get too bored as a mage I will just pick my shade armor and melee for a few rounds.

And I am not sure if boss trophies give magnificent equipments, but even if they would, the chance must be really slim.
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post Jul 20 2011, 19:19
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jul 20 2011, 23:53) *
i believe the patch may have included niten when it said DW uses highest bleed (would need testing on this), in which case waki with high bleed would


It means that DW (and Niten) bleed damage only use a single number for bleed damage (IE: the highest bleed damage of the 2 weapons) ... For Niten, that bleed damage usually come from Katana since it has more bleed damage, bleed damage on Waki doesn't do anything in bleed damage calculation at all.
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post Jul 20 2011, 19:34
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@buktore meant high bleed proc %*

since higher % would basically amplify the likelihood of that katana's bleed.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

@varst yeah i was wondering about the magnificents since hito/ichy/rei seem to be sending in trophies like crazy but not getting any magnificents. it makes me wonder if the loot system goes by threshold or if the probability is just super duper rare and most things have 0 possibility to drop magnificents (like pig tails etc)

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post Jul 20 2011, 19:41
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are all mage gears pretty much useless now or is there some still worth using? i have these collecting dust and was wondering if any of it is salvageable

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post Jul 20 2011, 22:52
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Just tried to cut something with light armor set instead of heavy Power armor set.
GOD
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PLATE?!!
I mean it! I could never imagine just how HIGH is the penalty of Interference on my spells! Now I understand why you guys were talking about "Regen>Cure" even before the 0.6.0 revamp. Godgodgodgod I want my heavy prof. to be changed to light one...
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post Jul 20 2011, 22:57
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It seems to me, or probability of artifact drop chance above in grindfeast than in arena?
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post Jul 20 2011, 23:10
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QUOTE(Lezard Valeth @ Jul 20 2011, 21:57) *

It seems to me, or probability of artifact drop chance above in grindfeast than in arena?
More monsters per round = more loot per round.
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post Jul 21 2011, 00:42
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How is EW for melee now? Is it still a viable option?
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post Jul 21 2011, 00:45
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How is EW for melee now? Is it still a viable option?
Like CW only increases the duration of spells.
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post Jul 21 2011, 00:49
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Just wondering, is light or heavy armor better in general?
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post Jul 21 2011, 00:56
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Light sucks ass for not providing enough protection but not killing your profs as hard. Heavy sucks ass for barely providing enough protection and raping your profs like a giant on a midget with no lube.
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