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Aug 19 2015, 10:31
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 18:02)  Please do, it's very insulting to the legitimately poor players.If you do all the SG arenas at PF, 70k sounds right, but they take a long time, I think with less efficient income/time than standard arenas. And I don't like doing the SG arenas other than DwD because of somewhat inefficient stamina usage. High difficulty standard arenas + low difficulty SG arenas (maybe only DwD) is probably best for income, though high difficulty SG is needed for better chance of good drop.
If you sell trophy, the SG is quite profitable.
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Aug 19 2015, 10:46
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 00:07)  Or you could just use one set, you can adapt much more gradually to increased innate toughness that way. Switch out one Plate for Power every 30 levels or something, if you feel like you can.Players can earn around 150k/day from clearing all the non-SG arenas. Add a bit if player clears on PFUDOR or IWBTH. Add 35k/day for FSM, if player has enough blood tokens. Add 20k or so for low difficulty DwD, more if IWBTH/PF. Add the occasional rare drop that can be sold for 500k+. Also add daily income from Stars and from monsters, and from H@H.
Some can also efficiently Grindfest, though I don't think it's worth it now because crystals have so little value. But it can still mean 100k or more.
It all adds up, but you do need to be decently leveled up to be able to do most of it. So if you want income, level up ASAP so you can 1h + Power through the arenas and FSM while near asleep, and go from there.
OK well I hope this will hold me for a while: [ someimage.com] (IMG:[t1.someimage.com] http://t1.someimage.com/qZlfHuu.jpg) I'll keep tweaking that until I get just the right combo. I'm still getting whaled on something fierce without Shadow in RE at Nightmare mode and now my ITR is 121.2 (mana cost modifier now 160%!!) More tweaks, more tweaks. At least now I have some credits to shop for a 1 or 2 more items. BTW I pulled in 6 blood tokens yesterday, trying to get one more for the big league RoB. Is that normal to suddenly start racking up BT's like that at my level? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Maybe soon I'll reach FSM and find out what the big deal is with that "noodly appendage" thingy? BTW I was such a fool for not seeing that you run a store, coulda got low grade metals for ultra cheap, now I've less need for them as my one plate armor that uses them is all done with low level upgrades. This post has been edited by jacquelope: Aug 19 2015, 10:47
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Aug 19 2015, 10:48
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treesloth
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,528
Joined: 6-January 13

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 18:10)  You're not poor. Just stop it, saying that just makes you seem like an asshole. And if someone as laid-back as Scremaz has to tell you, that should really make you stop and think.
well, in nobody-xxx defense, he has to grind for everything he has, not even a gold star to help him! and he's still has sick-ass forged gears. even Leg power at 15m is out of his reach (?) but for people who do heavy h@h, 15m is an afterthought.
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Aug 19 2015, 12:47
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,417
Joined: 2-April 10

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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 19 2015, 18:48)  well, in nobody-xxx defense, he has to grind for everything he has, not even a gold star to help him! and he's still has sick-ass forged gears. even Leg power at 15m is out of his reach (?) but for people who do heavy h@h, 15m is an afterthought.
the 10% are also the 99%!
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Aug 19 2015, 15:49
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(Madprank @ Aug 19 2015, 08:43)  So far I have two keeper items for my balance set: Legendary Savage Power Helmet of BalanceLegendary Savage Power Gauntlets of BalanceEverything else is legendary protection/warding power armor. Although I can't check on it atm since I am doing DwD, I had a very similar crit to my 1H shade set, which is ~43-46% if I remember right. Balance chest will add an extra 5-7%, Legs ~5-6%, and boots ~4-5% for a total of 10-13% extra crit, altough since it is multiplicative I guess I am looking at maybe ~7% overall improvement on my current number. Dont get balance unless its savage, I think balance is very bad. You lose the same amount of defense but you get less atk compared to slaughter. Savage balance though is almost as good as slaughter, if you dont mind the loss of ~20 fire resist (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 19 2015, 15:56
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 10:02)  Please do, it's very insulting to the legitimately poor players.
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 10:10)  You're not poor. Just stop it, saying that just makes you seem like an asshole.
exactly what i mean. and thanks for explaining better than me. not to mention that since he changed his sig, he basically writes it in every post (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 19 2015, 10:48)  well, in nobody-xxx defense, he has to grind for everything he has, not even a gold star to help him! and he's still has sick-ass forged gears. even Leg power at 15m is out of his reach (?) but for people who do heavy h@h, 15m is an afterthought.
i had to do the same. i had to work my lazy ass to come to this level - which isn't even so big of a result. btw, do you see a cookie under my name? boulay had to do the same, and now his shop is quite well-built and is able to support other players with a rich free section. tetron had to do the same, he did many bounties and now he was able to buy a gold star and supports other players here in this thread. 3886881 had to do the same, and now he was able to buy a gold star and supports other players with his WTB. kainord had to do the same, and he earned his gold star by selling his drops to bazaar. stulpen had to do the same, and he worked really hard for a cupcake - which is not so useful anymore now that hath price has fallen. chjj30 had to do the same, and was able to buy a gold star by doing everyday the same tedious arenas. also, before and after it he was still willing to help anybody that asked him. and these are only the people i myself spoke with and saw growing little by little. did you ever see we/they whined a fraction of what that guy has been doing for months? you know like me that in many other forums this would be called trolling This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 19 2015, 15:57
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Aug 19 2015, 16:01
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Aug 19 2015, 15:49)  Dont get balance unless its savage, I think balance is very bad. You lose the same amount of defense but you get less atk compared to slaughter. Savage balance though is almost as good as slaughter, if you dont mind the loss of ~20 fire resist (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) furthermore, the ACC you may be able to earn via power of balance is almost nothing if compared with the +50% granted by overwhelming strikes. once you have 200 prof (for mass counter-stuns) and that process, the only strong point of balance is higher crit chance - which is boosted also by heartseeker, btw. really better to go with protection/warding at this point (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Aug 19 2015, 16:18
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Is there any spike shield analysis out there? Which is the best one to minimize cure? So elec is bad, its for counter resist. Fire is also bad I think, in the late gf mobs will trigger your spirit shield anyway so -10 dmg is useless. I feel the same with protection gear, you can just regen off the chip damage with slaughter/balance, but the big hits will always hit you for 20% hp, no matter how high your mit so its kinda uesless. So its ice or wind?
This post has been edited by Void Domain: Aug 19 2015, 16:18
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Aug 19 2015, 16:25
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Aug 19 2015, 16:18)  So its ice or wind?
if i had to take a wild guess i'd say wind, better +10% evade rather than -10% velocity - which means they can still MP/SP you. btw, did you already consider fire is helpful also for fire mitigation against dragonkins?
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Aug 19 2015, 17:11
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 22:25)  if i had to take a wild guess i'd say wind, better +10% evade rather than -10% velocity - which means they can still MP/SP you.
btw, did you already consider fire is helpful also for fire mitigation against dragonkins?
No I did not think of that. But it is very inconsistent dragonkin is only one of 13 races. Also when mobs use special attack it is always sp damage. Some mobs even hit me for 200+ sp but its usually void and or magic ice and wind should be the same, they make you not get hit. if you kill a chilled mob before he attacks, and that time is not enough for a non-chilled mob, you just get hit 1 less. But are they really the same? There must be one better than other.
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Aug 19 2015, 17:15
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Aug 19 2015, 17:11)  No I did not think of that. But it is very inconsistent dragonkin is only one of 13 races. Also when mobs use special attack it is always sp damage. Some mobs even hit me for 200+ sp but its usually void and or magic
ice and wind should be the same, they make you not get hit. if you kill a chilled mob before he attacks, and that time is not enough for a non-chilled mob, you just get hit 1 less.
But are they really the same? There must be one better than other.
told you, on the paper i'd choose wind. but on the long run and for a melee probably they are not so different from each other...
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Aug 19 2015, 17:44
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karyl123
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,659
Joined: 9-January 11

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wind or ice ?
currently I use ice.
because many says. melee (1h) dont want more evade.
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Aug 19 2015, 17:51
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Crush85
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As a DW I use wind. I'd rather not get hit.
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Aug 19 2015, 17:55
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,635
Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 14:25)  btw, did you already consider fire is helpful also for fire mitigation against dragonkins? Last time I checked I think I remember Fire damage taken being the largest elemental-damage taken by a moderate margin, but maybe I just got unlucky with Dragonkin rounds that time.
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Aug 19 2015, 17:58
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 06:56)  exactly what i mean. and thanks for explaining better than me. not to mention that since he changed his sig, he basically writes it in every post (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) i had to do the same. i had to work my lazy ass to come to this level - which isn't even so big of a result. btw, do you see a cookie under my name? boulay had to do the same, and now his shop is quite well-built and is able to support other players with a rich free section. tetron had to do the same, he did many bounties and now he was able to buy a gold star and supports other players here in this thread. 3886881 had to do the same, and now he was able to buy a gold star and supports other players with his WTB. kainord had to do the same, and he earned his gold star by selling his drops to bazaar. stulpen had to do the same, and he worked really hard for a cupcake - which is not so useful anymore now that hath price has fallen. chjj30 had to do the same, and was able to buy a gold star by doing everyday the same tedious arenas. also, before and after it he was still willing to help anybody that asked him. and these are only the people i myself spoke with and saw growing little by little. did you ever see we/they whined a fraction of what that guy has been doing for months? you know like me that in many other forums this would be called trolling By "able to buy a gold star/cookie" you mean "donate/rent a seedbox" right? Or are there other ways to get a gold star/cookie?
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Aug 19 2015, 18:23
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(OnyxSpiral @ Aug 18 2015, 20:24)  Thanks. You're so quick with your answers. You should win a Community Award for being as helpful as you are (and others too).
I didn't see this. Yes, totally, this.
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Aug 19 2015, 18:23
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 19 2015, 15:58)  By "able to buy a gold star/cookie" you mean "donate/rent a seedbox" right? Or are there other ways to get a gold star/cookie? Donate $100, or spend something like 25m credits, are the only ways. H@H is only for H@H.
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Aug 19 2015, 18:31
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Crush85
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I wonder how long it takes to generate $100 worth of bitcoins using bit coin mining. It must take quite a bit of time.
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Aug 19 2015, 18:34
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Aug 19 2015, 16:31)  I wonder how long it takes to generate $100 worth of bitcoins using bit coin mining. It must take quite a bit of time. IIRC it's directly proportional to your computing power. So depending on what you used, it might take 100 years, or it might take 10 minutes.
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