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Is there any plausible way of making Light Armor + 1 Handed work? I'm having trouble getting enough damage, but switching to power is going to be such a hassle.

1h will work with anything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
but light armor + 1h is just too much defense even for gf

Is there any plausible way of making Light Armor + 1 Handed work? I'm having trouble getting enough damage, but switching to power is going to be such a hassle.

Sure, heavy armor is used so one can use power, but to have enough innate toughness to use mostly power instead of plate requires a relatively high level, around level 270+ (switching to all power by 300 or so). Until that point there's no problem with using light armor if you like the style, because you can't reap the major benefits of heavy armor even if you used it.

Use all leather, avoid shade for now unless you feel like you have more than enough toughness to survive whatever difficulty you like to play on. Make sure the leather has Endurance.

You will have problems with getting enough damage, but that's true for anyone below 270-something. You can compensate for that somewhat by using a rapier (increases damage by a ton), one that's pretty good and worth soulfusing, so you can also forge it and maybe IW it and retain ADB scaling to your level with it.

1h will work with anything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
but light armor + 1h is just too much defense even for gf

For high level, but not for low level I think.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Aug 18 2015, 06:36

Is there any plausible way of making Light Armor + 1 Handed work? I'm having trouble getting enough damage, but switching to power is going to be such a hassle.

just use whatever you like (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
1H SD is quite good with high crit rate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What Suffix and PAB should DW have on armor and weapon ?

I got a Slaughter on Mainhand
and Balance on my Offhand

but on armor i've just used every thing i've got XD

What Suffix and PAB should DW have on armor and weapon ?

I got a Slaughter on Mainhand
and Balance on my Offhand

but on armor i've just used every thing i've got XD

Which type of armor are you talking about? Heavy, Light, or Cloth?

Which type of armor are you talking about? Heavy, Light, or Cloth?

I'm using light armor

Sry for late post

I'm using light armor

Sry for late post

For light armor, Shade-Shadowdancer Suffix is the best, but it's also the most costly one. the 2nd best is Shade-Fleet. It's comparatively cheaper, but still decent.

As for Prefix, Agile and Savage are the most popular and most effective one. But good Prefix only make an armor piece even more costly. So try not to think too much about it.


For your level, Reinforced Leather of Protection is also good.

This post has been edited by tetron: Aug 18 2015, 11:59

For light armor, Shade-Shadowdancer Suffix is the best, but it's also the most costly one. the 2nd best is Shade-Fleet. It's comparatively cheaper, but still decent.

As for Prefix, Agile and Savage are the most popular and most effective one. But good Prefix only make an armor piece even more costly. So try not to think too much about it.
For your level, Reinforced Leather of Protection is also good.

Thanks for the advice XD

What Suffix and PAB should DW have on armor and weapon ?

I got a Slaughter on Mainhand
and Balance on my Offhand

most used combos are

rapier of slaughter + waki of nimble
axe/club of slaughter + rapier of balance

but probably a 0.82 rapier of nimble may be good as mainhand as well...

double nimble. double survability. but sloooowwwwwww

less damage

Is a 5000c Last Elixir less practical than, say, a 500c health elixir and a 1000c mana elixir? I find myself not using Spirit Stance much anymore though I MIGHT if I permanently abandon the astoundingly helpful (so far) Great Cleave/RB/SS.

And damn, force shields have gargantuan levels of interference, at least at my level. My spell costs are skyrocketing like the cost of eggs in California (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Is a 5000c Last Elixir less practical than, say, a 500c health elixir and a 1000c mana elixir? I find myself not using Spirit Stance much anymore though I MIGHT if I permanently abandon the astoundingly helpful (so far) Great Cleave/RB/SS.

Yes, since you can use multiple items in a row that and elixirs are too costly to be worth it as it is and should be avoided.

Is a 5000c Last Elixir less practical than, say, a 500c health elixir and a 1000c mana elixir? I find myself not using Spirit Stance much anymore though I MIGHT if I permanently abandon the astoundingly helpful (so far) Great Cleave/RB/SS.

And damn, force shields have gargantuan levels of interference, at least at my level. My spell costs are skyrocketing like the cost of eggs in California (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Elixirs are great but I only use them for emergencies. I use draughts constantly, and top up with potions. Elixirs are just if i have no other choice.

Elixirs are great but I only use them for emergencies. I use draughts constantly, and top up with potions. Elixirs are just if i have no other choice.

I use mana way too fast for draughts; especially when I trialed a low end force shield and a non-ethereal weapon. I run totally out of mana in no time. I've not enough featherweights to sustain that setup...

I use mana way too fast for draughts; especially when I trialed a low end force shield and a non-ethereal weapon. I run totally out of mana in no time. I've not enough featherweights to sustain that setup...

Something is wrong. Please post your stats, proficiencies, and equipment links.

What are you spending the mana on? Constant curing?

Is a 5000c Last Elixir less practical than, say, a 500c health elixir and a 1000c mana elixir? I find myself not using Spirit Stance much anymore though I MIGHT if I permanently abandon the astoundingly helpful (so far) Great Cleave/RB/SS.

And damn, force shields have gargantuan levels of interference, at least at my level. My spell costs are skyrocketing like the cost of eggs in California (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

elixer only for the rich. you should only use draught/potions.

sell em for quick moniez

and dont use elemental spells, melee player not using elemental spells, mage does.

This post has been edited by karyl123: Aug 18 2015, 17:45

For light armor, Shade-Shadowdancer Suffix is the best, but it's also the most costly one. the 2nd best is Shade-Fleet. It's comparatively cheaper, but still decent.

I don't think Shade is a good idea at all for low level. There is too much vulnerability to Piercing, and the player doesn't have the innate toughness from leveling up, or the gear, or the Juggernaut to handle it. I remember doing it, and it was way too painful until I switched back to leather.

I use mana way too fast for draughts; especially when I trialed a low end force shield and a non-ethereal weapon. I run totally out of mana in no time. I've not enough featherweights to sustain that setup...

Is it that bad? Keep mana draught active all the time (if MP is not full), and use mana potions when you get too low after that, that should be more than enough for any melee. If it isn't, either something's wrong or I'm lacking a significant point of knowledge. Are you using any spells other than Cure and buffs? (Avoid Shadow Veil as 1h)

Elixirs are too costly to use regularly, except if one is a top-tier player and has a ton of income and is Mage with Capacitor.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Aug 18 2015, 17:46

Is a 5000c Last Elixir less practical than, say, a 500c health elixir and a 1000c mana elixir?

they are really good, but too expensive. personally i used them only once at lv305 to achieve dovahkiin rank and i found them simply OP - i didn't even know what to do with all that MP/SP. did you try one, btw?

I find myself not using Spirit Stance much anymore though I MIGHT if I permanently abandon the astoundingly helpful (so far) Great Cleave/RB/SS.

2H isn't really so effective - personally i use it only on low difficulties. and still, i prefer to use OC for spirit stance rather than skills

And damn, force shields have gargantuan levels of interference, at least at my level. My spell costs are skyrocketing like the cost of eggs in California (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

ITR doesn't scale, so it will always remain the same. and to reduce mana cost you should use spirit stance (which isn't really a problem to keep with 1H). but just to give you an example, 130 total ITR (which means 165% mana cost modifier) is pretty much sustainable. rather, it may even be a quite low value for a 1H build

also, a question from me: since most of mobs at my level have high resistances and IW10 weapons will always have void strike, is there any point to look for a specific strike? let's say that i have a certain offhand rapier with elemental strike to use with DW style, is it worth to dump half million on the exact same rapier but with holy/dark strike? or better to use half of that amount for the ethereal version (but with slightly lower stats and soulbounded to a quite high level)?
consider that i'll do SGs at low difficulties only to farm trophies/tokens, if ever i'd do them...

also, a question from me: since most of mobs at my level have high resistances and IW10 weapons will always have void strike, is there any point to look for a specific strike? let's say that i have a certain offhand rapier with elemental strike to use with DW style, is it worth to dump half million on the exact same rapier but with holy/dark strike? or better to use half of that amount for the ethereal version (but with slightly lower stats and soulbounded to a quite high level)?
consider that i'll do SGs at low difficulties only to farm trophies/tokens, if ever i'd do them...

Holy/Dark strike is good for anyone - there's certainly a point, it is something to be considered. The obvious problem is the cost to get it - you have to look at the equip's stats, and consider the cost/benefit of forging more vs cost/benefit of holy/dark strike vs doing nothing at all. And getting Holy/Dark strike in addition to mostly good potencies is extraordinarily costly.

I remember doing IW for someone who wanted Overpower 4 or 5 + Holy or Dark strike, and even after 200 shards it never came up. Lost so much money

To avoid that, I always use Hallowed or Demonic. The interference and burden is well worth not having to spend millions to get the increased damage from Holy/Dark strike. I think the only exception would be for someone with Peerless who's also done most of the useful forging - otherwise, avoid Ethereal (unless there are no Hallowed or Demonic available).