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Aug 6 2015, 05:36
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piyin
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Aug 6 2015, 05:18)  quick question,
I just messing up with wiki. and it says when reach 10 M value on the shrine. we get a peerless based on the selection ?
I BELIEVE it has to be like that... only danixxx/jenga knows.
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Aug 6 2015, 06:38
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Crush85
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Aug 6 2015, 05:18)  quick question,
I just messing up with wiki. and it says when reach 10 M value on the shrine. we get a peerless based on the selection ?
I'm pretty sure that only applies when you have the Follower of Snowflake hath perk, but yes if you did that would happen.
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Aug 6 2015, 07:08
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Aug 6 2015, 11:38)  I'm pretty sure that only applies when you have the Follower of Snowflake hath perk, but yes if you did that would happen.
yup , that need FoS perk (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 6 2015, 08:18
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 6 2015, 07:20)  3) What is the most profitable ratio between unlocking slots for monsters and upgrating scavenging for low/high-level monsters?
A few months ago, I came up with some recommendations which I am still following, although: - the formulas, premise and data were all speculative and unconfirmed. - I have not reviewed the results to see if they are any good. YMMV, and don't blame me if your chaos tokens are wasted. QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 10:51)  So here's a question for everyone... has anyone done a serious cost-per-mission analysis? I mean, like what is it likely to cost a given user in credits to do an Arena/RoB/RE run, in terms of spending up potions and all that, not counting the random nature of loot that is gained? This would be super huge for newbs with limited credits and equipment, I'd think. I do cost analysis all the time now.
Yes, you should do the analysis to maximize your profits. The analysis is probably too variable, depending on your play style, equipment grade, perks, available playtime, level, preferred difficulty, etc. But the general consensus is that you should complete all REs and Arenas at the highest difficulty you can comfortably play to maximise income.
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Aug 6 2015, 09:15
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Aug 5 2015, 23:18)  A few months ago, I came up with some recommendations which I am still following, although: - the formulas, premise and data were all speculative and unconfirmed. - I have not reviewed the results to see if they are any good. YMMV, and don't blame me if your chaos tokens are wasted. Yes, you should do the analysis to maximize your profits. The analysis is probably too variable, depending on your play style, equipment grade, perks, available playtime, level, preferred difficulty, etc. But the general consensus is that you should complete all REs and Arenas at the highest difficulty you can comfortably play to maximise income. That last sentence was what I was fishing for. Even so, I'm having trouble consistently getting valuable drops at anything below Nintendo mode; but that mode is crazy costly and defeat-prone at my level.
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Aug 6 2015, 12:47
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jacquelope
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Sigh. I'm now at level 110 with 43 Dep Prof and STILL no Silence spell is available to me.
Maybe the new patch has gotten rid of this spell altogether for new people? I meet all the stated conditions for it. I need this spell like badly.
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Aug 6 2015, 12:57
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 18:47)  Sigh. I'm now at level 110 with 43 Dep Prof and STILL no Silence spell is available to me.
Maybe the new patch has gotten rid of this spell altogether for new people? I meet all the stated conditions for it. I need this spell like badly.
than you just need keep lvl up and increase your depre prof (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Aug 6 2015, 13:04
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 6 2015, 03:57)  than you just need keep lvl up and increase your depre prof (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) To what, though? I guess if everyone else is happy with these mysteries then I'm just being a party pooper sooooo okayyyyy
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Aug 6 2015, 13:41
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rfEH
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 11:04)  To what, though? I guess if everyone else is happy with these mysteries then I'm just being a party pooper sooooo okayyyyy
A general guide as to level requirement would be the ability point allocation. Since you can allocate 1 point on silence at lvl 120 I'm guessing that the level you need to be. Also don't rely on the wiki to be 100% accurate you notice that any numbers with "?" next to them means that it was probably not yet confirmed or something like that. That being said the wiki is still a good source of information especially when you see it being updated with new information. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 6 2015, 13:44
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Aug 6 2015, 13:46
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 6 2015, 04:41)  A general guide as to level requirement would be the ability point allocation. Since you can allocate 1 point on silence at lvl 120 I'm guessing that the level you need to be.
Well son of a biyotch, you're right, I did not see that before in Ability. I wish I could edit the Wiki and put the correct level in there as I hit it myself. I'd be glad to fix inaccuracies in there.
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Aug 6 2015, 13:50
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 19:46)  Well son of a biyotch, you're right, I did not see that before in Ability. I wish I could edit the Wiki and put the correct level in there as I hit it myself. I'd be glad to fix inaccuracies in there.
I got my wiki account approved by popping by the IRC channel and asking about it. Or, you could just post the correct info here or somewhere, and someone will be glad to do the update.
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Aug 6 2015, 14:00
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rfEH
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 11:46)  Well son of a biyotch, you're right, I did not see that before in Ability. I wish I could edit the Wiki and put the correct level in there as I hit it myself. I'd be glad to fix inaccuracies in there.
As I said it is only a general guide aswell and may not be accurate either but I think for deprecating it should be alright. For example I've seen a lot of people complain that they don't seem to be getting T2 or T3 elemental spells at the right levels either. Lastly because I know you might be possibly wearing cloth armor from your other post. You need check your BASE proficiency because your armor can actually add additional prof which doesn't count against the requirements. So the easiest way to check BASE prof is to check stats when naked. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 6 2015, 14:06
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Aug 6 2015, 15:01
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 6 2015, 05:00)  As I said it is only a general guide aswell and may not be accurate either but I think for deprecating it should be alright. For example I've seen a lot of people complain that they don't seem to be getting T2 or T3 elemental spells at the right levels either.
Lastly because I know you might be possibly wearing cloth armor from your other post. You need check your BASE proficiency because your armor can actually add additional prof which doesn't count against the requirements. So the easiest way to check BASE prof is to check stats when naked.
Naked, my Dep Prof is 47. It's gotta be a new and improved level requirement. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 6 2015, 15:01
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karyl123
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fack. I though just shrine 10 M thropy get a peerlees.
dont have FoS. gunna sell
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Aug 6 2015, 15:39
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Aug 6 2015, 06:18)  Yes, you should do the analysis to maximize your profits. The analysis is probably too variable, depending on your play style, equipment grade, perks, available playtime, level, preferred difficulty, etc. But the general consensus is that you should complete all REs and Arenas at the highest difficulty you can comfortably play to maximise income. This is important. On non-REs, one should be playing at a difficulty where one barely has to look at the screen to play, so that the limiting factor is the speed of ping only, or close to it. Even if someone could, for instance, play a difficulty higher and finish without problems if one is paying more attention, I don't think it's worth it. Even if this means someone is only playing on Hell or Nightmare, that's OK as long as stamina remains a non-issue, as is common for lower level players. (To them, they have little time to play but lots of stamina, so take advantage of that) I remember playing on Nintendo in my 100s-250s or so, but now I know it was a mistake (at least before I had the 1h defense to play without paying attention).
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Aug 6 2015, 19:51
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 6 2015, 06:39)  This is important. On non-REs, one should be playing at a difficulty where one barely has to look at the screen to play, so that the limiting factor is the speed of ping only, or close to it. Even if someone could, for instance, play a difficulty higher and finish without problems if one is paying more attention, I don't think it's worth it.
Even if this means someone is only playing on Hell or Nightmare, that's OK as long as stamina remains a non-issue, as is common for lower level players. (To them, they have little time to play but lots of stamina, so take advantage of that) I remember playing on Nintendo in my 100s-250s or so, but now I know it was a mistake (at least before I had the 1h defense to play without paying attention).
It's not that way for me at the lowest difficulty level. I still need to use cure now and then when I take a nasty hit. Even firing up shadow, regen and protection isn't enough, and I'm at level 113. Since I can't just barely look at the screen I go for higher difficulties just because I have to micromanage anyway and might as well proficiency grind while I'm at it. Also, probably because the system penalizes you for playing a large number of rounds at lower difficulties, I don't get much loot below Nintendo besides random garbage like draughts and credit drops below 20.
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Aug 6 2015, 21:54
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 17:51)  It's not that way for me at the lowest difficulty level. I still need to use cure now and then when I take a nasty hit. Even firing up shadow, regen and protection isn't enough, and I'm at level 113. Since I can't just barely look at the screen I go for higher difficulties just because I have to micromanage anyway and might as well proficiency grind while I'm at it. You have Spark by now - you can afford to play carelessly if you wish, the worst it'll cost is a spirit potion if Spark activates twice in a row. (Use spark alert script) QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 6 2015, 17:51)  Also, probably because the system penalizes you for playing a large number of rounds at lower difficulties, I don't get much loot below Nintendo besides random garbage like draughts and credit drops below 20. Looking at your level, I very highly doubt you're playing more than 1000 rounds a day. Also, credit drops are one of the main benefits, in arenas at least, and it doesn't decrease by all that much the lower your difficulty goes. Don't worry, try it.
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Aug 6 2015, 22:30
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-Hiiro-
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What's the script to see the monster's health, mana and spirit in numbers during rounds?
Also asking if the script will work with HV 0.83...
This post has been edited by The Magi: Aug 6 2015, 22:30
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Aug 7 2015, 01:04
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Acer37
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If I wanted to turn EXQ + rare gear to energy cells, would it be better to salvage or sell the item and buy the cells? I remember some posts from early .83 saying better items didn't give as many energy cells.
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