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Aug 2 2015, 17:07
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rfEH
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QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 14:23)  The drop rate of RE was indeed increased at the beginning of patch 0.82. But it produced way too many top notch
I also think it has been nerfed a bit more after this 0.83 patch. By that, I mean I seem to be getting proportionally more superior quality stuff than compared to in 0.82. Although I guess it all balances out with the new and improved arena bonuses. EDIT Correction- But yeah maybe drop chances was not nerfed: Just got this 1 minute ago. Firstly, thank you snowflake and tenboro.Although I seem to be getting so much Mithril of protection lately. QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 14:23)  Power is still comparatively cheap. Phase is the real deal. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Thankfully that stuff is still 100+ lvl away for me assuming I changed over. But I doubt it at the rate i'm going since I have never in my entire time playing actually gotten phase above the quality of exquisite, its also the same story with my staff collection. Its like this game doesn't want me to mage or something. Also its all in the perspective, at my level nearly everything seems expensive. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 2 2015, 17:18
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Aug 2 2015, 17:17
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Razor320
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 19:07)  Also its all in the perspective, at my level nearly everything seems expensive.
Leveling up is not making it any cheaper, you just start to care less about that stuff.
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Aug 2 2015, 17:27
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Darukunesu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 16:09)  1/10th of your level, rounded down and dinamically updating. in your case 31 and it will become 32 as soon as you reach lv320
Thanks for the info! So max PAB permanent bonus is 50 for level 500 players, good to know. QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 16:23)  I'm incompetent. So I Shrine all my Artifacts everyday, instead of piling them and bulk shrining. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Do you really think there is a difference in shrinning every day vs bulk shrinning? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Aug 2 2015, 17:33
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Aug 2 2015, 17:27)  Thanks for the info! So max PAB permanent bonus is 50 for level 500 players, good to know.
yup. but 30 is already good enough, you know (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Aug 2 2015, 17:44
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rfEH
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Um everyone. Start doing you PF RE because drop rates are crazy right now. Leg seems to be dropping alot (at least for me). Just got this a minute ago Leg AxeEDIT: Then again I think I remember reading someones post about tracking their Leg drop and they could get 1 to 2 per day or something when they were lucky. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 2 2015, 17:50
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Aug 2 2015, 17:45
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Darukunesu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 17:33)  yup. but 30 is already good enough, you know (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Of course, the highest score i have seen until now it's from Cats Lover in the range 45~47 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm still in the range of 7~9 of bonus, so plenty of improvement left for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 17:44)  Um everyone. Start doing you PF RE because drop rates are crazy right now. Leg seems to be dropping alot (at least for me). Just got this a minute ago Leg AxeNah, i think is only your luck. Only superior crap for me at least... Congrats by the way, at least someone is lucky. This post has been edited by Darukunesu: Aug 2 2015, 17:50
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Aug 2 2015, 17:56
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rfEH
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Aug 2 2015, 15:45)  Nah, i think is only your luck. Only superior crap for me at least...
Congrats by the way, at least someone is lucky.
Thanks Darukunesu, you are probably right. Yeah I just found it strange because that is my 3rd Leg in the last 24 hours although I've only ever gotten 6 Leg in total ever which are: 2 Leg axes of slaughters 3 Leg Power of protection 1 Leg shade of fleet I think there might be a pattern to drops. But with a sample size of 6 I clearly can't conclude anything yet. EDIT:and yeah 95% of the time its superior crap for me too. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 2 2015, 17:58
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Aug 2 2015, 18:08
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Darukunesu
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 17:56)  Thanks Darukunesu, you are probably right.
Yeah I just found it strange because that is my 3rd Leg in the last 24 hours although I've only ever gotten 6 Leg in total ever which are:
2 Leg axes of slaughters 3 Leg Power of protection 1 Leg shade of fleet
I think there might be a pattern to drops. But with a sample size of 6 I clearly can't conclude anything yet.
EDIT:and yeah 95% of the time its superior crap for me too.
Lol, i just got this before levelling up in Exile Arena: Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance. Maybe you have given me some of your luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Aug 2 2015, 18:20
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 14:23)  Does any high level player actually play full Plate? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I don't think so, it's not efficient wearing full plate because of multiplicative formula(basically it's true for almost all player stats) and high mitigations from PABs, difference between full plate set and full shade set at PMi about 20% or even less but shade provide more useful stats instead. Me think that the most efficient is power slaughter because it has a huge amount of damage, damage stack with additive formula - no loss in dmg. Also with new potion system mitigations is lose their importance(at least for 1H).
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Aug 2 2015, 18:32
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 16:12)  Legendary dropping everywhere. Lets hope this continues.
You're just lucky, here my PFUDOR-RE drop for past 2 days: CODE Superior Cotton Robe of Protection Exquisite Leather Gauntlets of Warding Exquisite Jade Leather Helmet of Stoneskin Exquisite Cotton Shoes of the Heaven-sent Superior Plate Greaves of Stoneskin Superior Ruby Leather Leggings of Stoneskin Exquisite Jade Plate Cuirass of Dampening Superior Leather Breastplate of Stoneskin Superior Amber Leather Gauntlets of Warding Exquisite Rapier of Balance Superior Rapier of Slaughter Superior Plate Greaves of Protection Superior Oak Staff of the Earth-walker Superior Power Leggings of Protection Exquisite Plate Cuirass of Deflection Exquisite Rapier of the Illithid Superior Cotton Cap of the Elementalist Exquisite Cotton Shoes of Warding
This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Aug 2 2015, 18:33
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Aug 2 2015, 18:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 2 2015, 18:20)  I don't think so, it's not efficient wearing full plate because of multiplicative formula(basically it's true for almost all player stats) and high mitigations from PABs, difference between full plate set and full shade set at PMi about 20% or even less but shade provide more useful stats instead. Me think that the most efficient is power slaughter because it has a huge amount of damage, damage stack with additive formula - no loss in dmg. Also with new potion system mitigations is lose their importance(at least for 1H).
it's not only for that. as you level up, you will earn so little PMI/MMI and lose so much ADB (even without using power of slaughter) that using plate isn't an option, even if shielding. if you really need more PMI/MMI, i'd go for a 0.82 power of protection/warding QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 2 2015, 18:32)  You're just lucky, here my PFUDOR-RE drop for past 2 days: CODE Superior Cotton Robe of Protection Exquisite Leather Gauntlets of Warding Exquisite Jade Leather Helmet of Stoneskin Exquisite Cotton Shoes of the Heaven-sent Superior Plate Greaves of Stoneskin Superior Ruby Leather Leggings of Stoneskin Exquisite Jade Plate Cuirass of Dampening Superior Leather Breastplate of Stoneskin Superior Amber Leather Gauntlets of Warding Exquisite Rapier of Balance Superior Rapier of Slaughter Superior Plate Greaves of Protection Superior Oak Staff of the Earth-walker Superior Power Leggings of Protection Exquisite Plate Cuirass of Deflection Exquisite Rapier of the Illithid Superior Cotton Cap of the Elementalist Exquisite Cotton Shoes of Warding
my only relevant drops since patch 0.82 are a mag phase that just sold for 250k at an auction and a mag cotton robe of proficiency, which will remain unsold because robe (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) on the other hand, is capacitor still useless for shade/power armors?
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Aug 2 2015, 19:13
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Panuru
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Looks like I hit a hot streak on drops, too. Got that staff last night, got a Magnificent Savage Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer just now. Anybody have an idea how good the shade is? I know that shadowdancer is good. Agile is better?
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Aug 2 2015, 19:17
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tetron
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 20:37)  Thankfully that stuff is still 100+ lvl away for me assuming I changed over. But I doubt it at the rate i'm going since I have never in my entire time playing actually gotten phase above the quality of exquisite, its also the same story with my staff collection. Its like this game doesn't want me to mage or something.
Also its all in the perspective, at my level nearly everything seems expensive.
Nah, you're not that far away. Lv.310 is the minimum level for Maging. QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Aug 2 2015, 20:57)  Do you really think there is a difference in shrinning every day vs bulk shrinning? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Nah. In both cases the results are usually disappointing. Just that, in bulk, the disappointing factor is higher, so I just shrine daily to avoid facing such big let down. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 2 2015, 21:26)  Yeah I just found it strange because that is my 3rd Leg in the last 24 hours although I've only ever gotten 6 Leg in total ever which are:
2 Leg axes of slaughters 3 Leg Power of protection 1 Leg shade of fleet
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Very unusual. Or should I say you have been very lucky? My 1st 20 Leg drops were either useless Leather or Cotton! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 22:09)  it's not only for that. as you level up, you will earn so little PMI/MMI and lose so much ADB (even without using power of slaughter) that using plate isn't an option, even if shielding. if you really need more PMI/MMI, i'd go for a 0.82 power of protection/warding
Before 0.82, Shielding Plate was very good. Now, due to the new potion system, not so much. Now, A Power of Protection instead is much better. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 22:09)  my only relevant drops since patch 0.82 are a mag phase that just sold for 250k at an auction and a mag cotton robe of proficiency, which will remain unsold because robe (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I'm one of those few super lucky players who dropped super gears at the beginning of 0.82 (When the RE drops were still in buffed state). I made 70m just from 5 drops. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 22:09)  on the other hand, is capacitor still useless for shade/power armors?
Due to the new potions system, I say Capacitor truly has become useless now.
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Aug 2 2015, 19:18
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tetron
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Aug 2 2015, 22:43)  Looks like I hit a hot streak on drops, too. Got that staff last night, got a Magnificent Savage Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer just now. Anybody have an idea how good the shade is? I know that shadowdancer is good. Agile is better? Unfortunately, it's useless, since it lacks DEX.
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Aug 2 2015, 19:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 19:17)  I'm one of those few super lucky players who dropped super gears at the beginning of 0.82 (When the RE drops were still in buffed state). I made 70m just from 5 drops. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) not bad. back then, i probably made 7k from 50 drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 19:17)  Due to the new potions system, I say Capacitor truly has become useless now.
hooray! so, still juggernaut wanted and holy/fireproof tolerated QUOTE(Panuru @ Aug 2 2015, 19:13)  Looks like I hit a hot streak on drops, too. Got that staff last night, got a Magnificent Savage Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer just now. Anybody have an idea how good the shade is? I know that shadowdancer is good. Agile is better? quite good, i'd say. too bad it doesn't have DEX, otherwise i would've already made an offer for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) but would you be so kind to loan it to me for a few minutes? i'd like to see how it modifies some stats (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 2 2015, 19:28
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Aug 2 2015, 19:37
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rfEH
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Aug 2 2015, 17:13)  Looks like I hit a hot streak on drops, too. Got that staff last night, got a Magnificent Savage Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer just now. Congrats to you Panuru on your mag savage shade of shadowdancer. QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 17:17)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Very unusual. Or should I say you have been very lucky? My 1st 20 Leg drops were either useless Leather or Cotton! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Dunno, I think its pretty strange too that all my leg armor drops have been the rare variations. My LOTD only 7/25 so its not really that high either. Although I think all luck is balanced out, as I said before, I've never ever gotten phase or any staff above exquisite quality. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 17:22)  not bad. back then, i probably made 7k from 50 drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) LOL This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 2 2015, 19:48
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Aug 2 2015, 19:59
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Panuru
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QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 2 2015, 12:18)  Unfortunately, it's useless, since it lacks DEX.
SadTrombone.wav QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 2 2015, 12:22)  quite good, i'd say. too bad it doesn't have DEX, otherwise i would've already made an offer for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) but would you be so kind to loan it to me for a few minutes? i'd like to see how it modifies some stats (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah sure.
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Aug 2 2015, 20:00
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tetron
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How odd is this? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) From the very 1st Arena (5 rounds): CODE Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Shortsword of the Illithid] Flying Backward dropped [Magnificent Rapier of Balance] You are Victorious!
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