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post Jul 21 2015, 23:43
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After training 2 more level of Archeologist, now I'm getting only "1" frigging Artifact from the entire Arena per day (Happening for 2 consecutive days now)!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Is it just me or did this happen to you people too?
Before this I used to get ~4-7 Artifacts per day from the Arena.



QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 21 2015, 22:57) *

Anyway, currently I'm doing some IW, and already getting some artifacts. So I think in those arena my luck was just playing bad.

I have not raised my Archeologist level, however my situation is identical, only 1 or 2 artifacts with luck doing mostly arenas at IWBTH or PFUDOR...

Last week I was getting ~4-8 on lower difficulty... coincidence perhaps? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 23:44
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Hi everyone, I'm quite new to E-hentai. Do you know which path I should take like. Mage, warrior if there are options like this. thanks.
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post Jul 22 2015, 00:08
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Hi S.A.V., melee is probably easier at low level, being 1H the safest style for survavility (but the slowest too).

Here you can read some advices.
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post Jul 22 2015, 00:15
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Hi everyone, I'm quite new to E-hentai. Do you know which path I should take like. Mage, warrior if there are options like this. thanks.

i suggest you to use leather armors (which should be quite cheap) and a longsword for the very first levels, to switch to a mace whenever you feel longsword isn't safe enough (lv100?) and 1H + shield around lv200.

maging is suggested only for lv310+
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post Jul 22 2015, 00:37
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Thank you so much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Very friendly and great advice.
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post Jul 22 2015, 06:19
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So I am collecting a set of mithril power of defensive. Should I go for warding or protection?
warding has a higher range than protection so I guess it is better overall?
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post Jul 22 2015, 06:25
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 04:19) *
So I am collecting a set of mithril power of defensive. Should I go for warding or protection?
warding has a higher range than protection so I guess it is better overall?
If you're using 1h you might as well go for Power Slaughter / Balance, right?

Warding gives higher MMit than Protection gives PMit - just like standard Plate, right? - but the vast majority of attacks are physical rather than magical, so Protection probably saves more damage taken overall, especially if you spot and kill the dangerous magic types like Tsukiko first.
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post Jul 22 2015, 06:26
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 11:19) *

So I am collecting a set of mithril power of defensive. Should I go for warding or protection?
warding has a higher range than protection so I guess it is better overall?

protection is better for GF , void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

or just combine them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 22 2015, 06:45
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 12:25) *

If you're using 1h you might as well go for Power Slaughter / Balance, right?

Warding gives higher MMit than Protection gives PMit - just like standard Plate, right? - but the vast majority of attacks are physical rather than magical, so Protection probably saves more damage taken overall, especially if you spot and kill the dangerous magic types like Tsukiko first.



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protection is better for GF , void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

or just combine them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Slaughter is the best of course but I think the new power armor is pretty good. And its super cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I think balance is the worst, I rather have more defense than a little crit in gf. Especially in hv crit has very low reward other than more proc.

I dont have a damage tracker like hvstat. But the vast majority of attacks are physical should not matter much only the sp-shield attack matters.
So the ultimate question is if it is true that I will have less cure using protection than warding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 07:16
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 11:45) *

Slaughter is the best of course but I think the new power armor is pretty good. And its super cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I think balance is the worst, I rather have more defense than a little crit in gf. Especially in hv crit has very low reward other than more proc.

I dont have a damage tracker like hvstat. But the vast majority of attacks are physical should not matter much only the sp-shield attack matters.
So the ultimate question is if it is true that I will have less cure using protection than warding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

maybe yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

and the other reason is I have leg mithril power gauntlets of prot if you interested (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

but , I prefer higher PMI , not MMI in GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 22 2015, 07:37
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 22 2015, 13:16) *

maybe yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

and the other reason is I have leg mithril power gauntlets of prot if you interested (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

but , I prefer higher PMI , not MMI in GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yes pls link it I still need the 3 pieces from the top.
A side note say cay has 13k attack, if he fully forge a new power non slaughter he will have 11k~11500 attack I think its an ok trade.
And if you fully forge 5 protection you will take 25% less damage (just a rough estimate)
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post Jul 22 2015, 07:54
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 12:37) *

Yes pls link it I still need the 3 pieces from the top.
A side note say cay has 13k attack, if he fully forge a new power non slaughter he will have 11k~11500 attack I think its an ok trade.
And if you fully forge 5 protection you will take 25% less damage (just a rough estimate)

other than cat , there 1 player that have 12100 ADB , nearly close to cat 13k ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
he maybe can reach 13k if he fully forged all his leg slaughter gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:07
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 06:19) *

So I am collecting a set of mithril power of defensive. Should I go for warding or protection?
warding has a higher range than protection so I guess it is better overall?

personally i'd go for warding.
apart from the fact that at your level the most dangerous attacks should be magic, PMI rolls on warding tend to be than MMI rolls on protection and ceiling for MMI is higher than PMI - basically, you'd lose less PMI going warding than how many MMI going protection.
also, whatever choice you make it's true also the fact that their ADB isn't crappy anymore: i guess you'll lose something like 700ADB on a whole set if compared to salughter, but not half ADB like in the past anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:29
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 22 2015, 14:07) *

personally i'd go for warding.
apart from the fact that at your level the most dangerous attacks should be magic, PMI rolls on warding tend to be than MMI rolls on protection and ceiling for MMI is higher than PMI - basically, you'd lose less PMI going warding than how many MMI going protection.
also, whatever choice you make it's true also the fact that their ADB isn't crappy anymore: i guess you'll lose something like 700ADB on a whole set if compared to salughter, but not half ADB like in the past anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats what I was thinking, warding has higher range thus more stat per gear overall.
But the question is still prot or warding can have less cure. Maybe it is depended on the metagame?

not just 700 adb but its more like 18% more adb "best case" switching to slaughter. Its still like 4 damage perk.

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post Jul 22 2015, 08:59
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 04:45) *
I dont have a damage tracker like hvstat. But the vast majority of attacks are physical should not matter much only the sp-shield attack matters.
So the ultimate question is if it is true that I will have less cure using protection than warding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
If Cure frequency is what's important, it's standard attacks and MP attacks that lower HP the most. If minimizing spirit damage taken is what's important, it's SP attacks that matter most. Can't be both (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

To minimize overall Cures, definitely go for Protection.

What difficulty are you / will you be playing on? If PF, then SP attacks, of all types, and some MP attacks, will be doing significant damage to spirit shield late in GF. If less than PF, probably sprite/celestial SP attacks will be the significant spirit shield drains, but on less than PF it shouldn't matter because items with nothing special added will be more than enough to keep SP high.
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:08
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that why I always run away when reach 600~700 rounds of PFUfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

too much SP eater after that rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , maybe because I'm using 4slaug + 1 plate of deflection for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not so good set up for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 22 2015, 09:17
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 22 2015, 07:08) *
well , maybe because I'm using 4slaug + 1 plate of deflection for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not so good set up for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
5 Slaughter + Nimble rapier for me. Finishing PF is easy. Using spirit potions is worth it.
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:23
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ok then I will go for protection
its in pf. sp is not a problem only sp draught is needed to keep sp high.
but cure is somewhat annoying, need a few cures per round after 800 or 900.
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:29
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jul 22 2015, 07:23) *
ok then I will go for protection
its in pf. sp is not a problem only sp draught is needed to keep sp high.
but cure is somewhat annoying, need a few cures per round after 800 or 900.
You're using Fullcure primarily and Cure only as backup, right? It saves a lot of time, and is good since mana conservation doesn't matter anymore due to items.
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 15:29) *

You're using Fullcure primarily and Cure only as backup, right? It saves a lot of time, and is good since mana conservation doesn't matter anymore due to items.

No. I did not think of that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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