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post Jul 19 2015, 17:06
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jul 19 2015, 21:58) *

And what kind of staff do I need?

Generally speaking,
Destruction Staff > EDB Staff > Proficiency/Focus Staff

Holy mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall
Peerless/Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of Heimdall
Peerless/Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of the Heaven-sent

Dark mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Fenrir
Peerless/Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of the Demon-fiend

Wind mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Freyr
Peerless/Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of the Elementalist

Elec mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Shocking Redwood Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Shocking Redwood Staff of Mjolnir
Peerless/Legendary Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist

Cold mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Arctic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Arctic Redwood Staff of Nifheim
Peerless/Legendary Arctic Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
Peerless/Legendary Arctic Oak Staff of xxx

Fiery mages are looking for:
Peerless/Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction
Peerless/Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Surtr
Peerless/Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
Peerless/Legendary Fiery Oak Staff of xxx


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post Jul 19 2015, 18:22
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jul 19 2015, 15:58) *

What's currently the best element for a mage?
Which abilities do I have to unlock?

I'd say any element except dark. Holy is still op but you need eco+frugal/randiant to keep it up. Wind/Elec seem trendier this time around though...

As for potencies: Eco 5 is a must, any other should be okay (except spellweaver maybe...)
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post Jul 19 2015, 18:44
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jul 19 2015, 19:28) *

I want to try to do some maging as many players says that maging is faster than meleeing in grindfest.

So I have a few questions:

What's currently the best element for a mage?
And what kind of staff do I need?
Which abilities do I have to unlock?

Holy/Elec/Wind - These are the elements you should look for.

Dark is dead right now. Fire/Cold has very low supply of good quality gears in the market.

For Staff, "Destruction" is the best Suffix, with 48+ base "Magic Damage".

Best IW Potency combo for the Staff is "Economizer Lv.5 + Penetrator Lv.4".

You only need 100 level of Elemental Proficiency to unlock the highest level of offensive Elemental Spells, and 200 level of Divine Proficiency for offensive Holy Spells.

If you want to go for Elemental and if your goal is to play at PFUDOR, you may also consider getting 30 level of Deprecating Proficiency to unlock Imperil. That spell is Elemental Mage's best friend in high difficulty.

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post Jul 19 2015, 18:50
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holy and dark are now equal cos holy no longer has any cure bonus.

fire/ice/elec/wind has a slightly lower damage than holy/dark but has quicker casting time and lower mana cost.

holy/dark is better for SG arenas.

fire/ice/elec/wind is better for GF run.


please note that "mage is faster/better than melee in xxx" is only true when you are comparing a heavily forged mage set against a heavily forged melee set.

melee is still better if you are not going to heavily forge them.

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post Jul 19 2015, 19:03
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 19 2015, 22:20) *

holy and dark are now equal cos holy no longer has any cure bonus.

Nope. Holy is better than dark because of two things:
1. Innate Mitigation Reduction feature, because of which Holy is faster than Dark.
2. Mana theft, which is very easy to use in SG rounds. Dark's Spirit Theft is now obsolete.

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 19 2015, 22:20) *

melee is still better if you are going to heavily forge them.

Nope.
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post Jul 19 2015, 19:13
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I think melee is better when you can attack more than 4t/s like HTTP in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but mage also doesn't have cooldown in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that era is long gone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 19:24
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 20 2015, 01:03) *

Nope.


typo error there.

i forgot a not.
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post Jul 19 2015, 19:31
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For elemental mage should I get a redwood or willow staff?

I guess that radiant is the best preffix for armor, or not? After that is it charged or the matching elemental preffix?
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post Jul 19 2015, 19:37
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 19 2015, 22:54) *

typo error there.

i forgot a not.

Still nope. Unforged Mage is still faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jul 19 2015, 23:01) *

For elemental mage should I get a redwood or willow staff?

I guess that radiant is the best preffix for armor, or not? After that is it charged or the matching elemental preffix?

Redwood.

Yep. Radiant is the best Prefix.

Charged is for Grindfest.

For armor, matching Elemental prefix doesn't do shit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 19:58
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 19 2015, 10:13) *

I think melee is better when you can attack more than 4t/s like HTTP in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but mage also doesn't have cooldown in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that era is long gone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

stop living in the past, or you need to jump back in time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:04
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 19:37) *

Redwood.

just wondering, why not willow for wind/elec? too low MDB?
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 19 2015, 23:34) *

just wondering, why not willow for wind/elec? too low MDB?

Compared to Willow, Redwood has better Elemental EDB and Elemental Proficiency. Furthermore, Redwood has Supportive Profiency, which gives cure bonus.
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:15
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 20:11) *

Compared to Willow, Redwood has better Elemental EDB and Elemental Proficiency. Furthermore, Redwood has Supportive Profiency, which gives cure bonus.

and i guess both of them are way better than a bunch of counter-resist, right?
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:20
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 19 2015, 23:45) *

and i guess both of them are way better than a bunch of counter-resist, right?

That depends on perspective. Some Imperil Mage may prefer the super high innate Deprecating Proficiency of Willow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:53
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 20 2015, 00:58) *

stop living in the past, or you need to jump back in time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but still there alot of better thing in old HV patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 19 2015, 22:09
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so, have people yet adapted to new patch with level-binded equips?
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post Jul 19 2015, 22:23
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Thats not big deal for 300+ lvl with some gear before that. 1h can easy work even without it. Mage mostly also (prof gear is better to bind).

Sure its not so good as was before, but in that patch was also very good power increase (better gear, endless pots).
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post Jul 19 2015, 23:20
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How much can I get for this:

Magnificent Cobalt Shade Leggings of The Shadowdancer

I'm asking because Shadowdancer gear seems to be popular for collecting.
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post Jul 20 2015, 00:11
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 07:37) *

Still nope. Unforged Mage is still faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



Unless you are getting the shit smacked out of you and have to heal every second turn.



Counter resist gets better as you get closer to level 500. Otherwise archmage and annihilator will probably add more damage.
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post Jul 20 2015, 04:00
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QUOTE(boulay @ Jul 19 2015, 16:22) *
I'd say any element except dark. Holy is still op but you need eco+frugal/randiant to keep it up. Wind/Elec seem trendier this time around though...

As for potencies: Eco 5 is a must, any other should be okay (except spellweaver maybe...
Why not Dark? Dark should be close to as good as Holy now.

I don't think Eco 5 is necessary anymore, except for unforged or only lightly forged (or low level) mages. Consumable cost is not very high.

Holy is still top-tier. Dark is not far behind.
QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 19 2015, 16:50) *
fire/ice/elec/wind is better for GF run.
Only if someone is playing with Imperil, which is slow anyway. No imperil Holy/Dark is very good and very fast on lower difficulties, probably better than no imperil elemental / imperil elemental. I think?
QUOTE(Unsibscribed @ Jul 19 2015, 21:20) *
Shade + Shadowdancer is good, but... Evade is only S, and Str is missing.

Maybe worth some, but not much, especially given its level.
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