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Jul 9 2015, 17:48
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Aegnor Alkarin @ Jul 9 2015, 15:34)  You have an offer?
you have a price into your mind?
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Jul 9 2015, 18:22
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14

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QUOTE(jacksonville @ Jul 9 2015, 05:56)  When did obsolete prices get so high? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) When you were hibernating. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 9 2015, 07:22)  infusion should become infinite stacking and each use will reset duration! It should also gives some bonus to melee if casted during battle.
We need an infinity scaling mechanism so we can all enjoy being temporarily OP at an affordable price xD
Wrong thread. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 9 2015, 11:49)  And maybe Legendary/Peerless focus staffs as well? 1. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 20m in StonyCat's shop. 2. Irrc hentai_fusion bought a Peerless Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus with millions of credits. (tho it happened before 0.82) 3. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 600k in milannews' shop. 4. I sold a 0.82 Legendary Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus at 200k in my shop. 5. I forgot his complete ID, but there is a player named "f..." who has/had been collecting Leg+ focus staffs. Focus Staffs in this Patch has got a pretty big buff. It's like as if you're always on Aether. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 9 2015, 11:50)  Knowing the nature of the highest bidder it's obvious.
Frankly speaking, I didn't except him to bid that much on that lot. Guess he really is a hardcore collector. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Jul 9 2015, 18:31
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,635
Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 9 2015, 16:22)  Focus Staffs in this Patch has got a pretty big buff. It's like as if you're always on Aether. Their numbers were buffed, but they're also notably less useful for high-level players, right? Net result is pretty negative since mana consumption only means more potion usage, which isn't that big a deal for someone with fast-clearing gear, especially if forge-worthy.
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Jul 9 2015, 18:32
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-July 14

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 9 2015, 13:41)  It makes sense that something with a good EDB prefix (or suffix) would indeed be somewhat worthwhile. And at the Leg+ level, getting matching/good staffs is so rare that Focus can be fine if the other prefix is good. The issue is useless prefix (eg. Ethereal) + less-useful suffix (eg. Earth-walker, Focus). Well, it might be bought, if Peerless or by someone who doesn't understand EDB well enough yet
Focus is not that bad as people fear. It has some solid Crit Chance, and you can easily get Penetrator Lv.5. Ethereal or non matching Prefixes are the real Drag. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 9 2015, 13:41)  I don't think that would be reliable enough to count on as a good price indicator...
Gears in some shop are just overpriced. Simply ignore them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 9 2015, 14:00)  and i think interference used to cause a lot more negative effects than it does now.
What "Negative Effect"? And what kind of Staff had "Interference" in the first place? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 9 2015, 19:02)  I'm trying to figure out whether to bazaar or salvage trashy exquisite/magnificent equipment. Is there any market for MG/HG Leathers and Metals?
WTB appears to be empty for these materials (at least, not threads that have been active in the past couple of months). WTS exists, but I don't know whether those materials actually move. It seems to be a buyer's market anyway, so I don't know see why anyone would buy at WTS prices.
Ever since the patch, mat market has been pretty down. Though its not dead, since the price in WTS has dropped, people no longer have to open WTB to buy them at the lower price.
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Jul 9 2015, 18:34
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 9 2015, 22:01)  Their numbers were buffed, but they're also notably less useful for high-level players, right? Net result is pretty negative since mana consumption only means more potion usage, which isn't that big a deal for someone with fast-clearing gear, especially if forge-worthy.
The main benefit of Focus Staff is the big increase in Crit Chance. Combined with Annihilator Lv.4/Lv.5, it's pretty solid firepower. Not to mention getting Penetrator Lv.5 is extremely easy on a Focus Staff. Of course Destruction Staff is still the Boss. This post has been edited by tetron: Jul 9 2015, 18:36
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Jul 9 2015, 18:45
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 9 2015, 23:34)  The main benefit of Focus Staff is the big increase in Crit Chance. Combined with Annihilator Lv.4/Lv.5, it's pretty solid firepower. Not to mention getting Penetrator Lv.5 is extremely easy on a Focus Staff.
Of course Destruction Staff is still the Boss.
I still waiting for my 1st leg staff drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) it's extremely hard for me to get leg staff drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Jul 9 2015, 22:27
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 9 2015, 19:34)  Of course Destruction Staff is still the Boss.
Only with very high edb amount. At least for elemental its true. For example with 4+1 i have only something like 310 edb. It means edb staff still better. And with 3+2 its definitely better. And also easier to forge, because main power here is cheap elemental bindings instead destruction. This post has been edited by nec1986: Jul 9 2015, 22:38
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Jul 9 2015, 23:18
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 9 2015, 03:28)  I really don't understand your motive for suggesting changes when, imo, you don't understand the current balance. QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 9 2015, 08:29)  Your suggestion seems to not be serious at all. Thank you for your input. If you're capable of pulling your heads out of your asses and coming up with meaningful criticism, you are welcome to try again.
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Jul 9 2015, 23:54
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Crush85
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 9 2015, 14:29)  Casting T3, Imperil, Full heal, Arcane focus etc you get hit once or a few times afterwards. Your suggestion seems to not be serious at all.
If you are playing on any reasonable difficulty its very unlikely to instagib all monsters unless you have godly dark gear or something.
Farewell qw3rty67, I knew thee briefly.
It seems pretty serious to me. As far as I can tell, there's no delay between casting a spell and the spell actually happening; it's always immediate. It just take longer for your next turn to happen.
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Jul 10 2015, 00:22
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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Unless one is playing a stupidly-low difficulty, monsters will remain alive for at least a couple of turns and will likely get some hits in. It sounds like you're suggesting mages don't get hit as often/hard as they should be, but they're plenty fragile already. Is there a reason, or should this just be taken as seriously as your other "suggestions"? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 10 2015, 03:48
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mozilla browser
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Jul 10 2015, 05:54)  It seems pretty serious to me. As far as I can tell, there's no delay between casting a spell and the spell actually happening; it's always immediate. It just take longer for your next turn to happen.
And what is the problem with this situation? Realism? In hentaiverse? Or, it is meant to address some perceived balance problem - and I'd repeat my assertion that he does not understand the current balance. (Which is not to say that the current situation is balanced) Edit: put another way, his observation and suggested change is not even wrong. This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jul 10 2015, 03:54
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Jul 10 2015, 04:40
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Crush85
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 10 2015, 03:48)  And what is the problem with this situation? Realism? In hentaiverse?
Or, it is meant to address some perceived balance problem - and I'd repeat my assertion that he does not understand the current balance. (Which is not to say that the current situation is balanced)
Edit: put another way, his observation and suggested change is not even wrong.
No real problem, I just thought it was an interesting idea. That and I was just helping to explain it better, since there seemed to be confusion about what he meant.
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Jul 10 2015, 05:47
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Sinjid
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I'm currently playing a 2h heavy armor, but in the last patches i can only raise the difficulty to nightmare (with a lot of potions consumed) and random encounters in hell (in nintendo its like a dead end if 6+ monsters) in the past, i remember lvling 150->200 with IWBTH randoms and hell/nintendo arenas with a fine ethereal mace of balance and some superior plate of idk sufix now im stuck and idk what to do. some change in gameplay? items? in abilities, i have all general,2h, heavy and supportive that i can have. deprecating only 2 in silence and 3 in slow. everything else is in the images. i resently buy the 2h mace for soulbound but i dont have the soul fragments yet (60 of 74) i was planing to IW it for void damage in between. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/j9dsE3J.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/pEzqiMh.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/oNRoSP4.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/q7NNMkc.jpg)
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Jul 10 2015, 06:14
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djackallstar
Group: Gold Star Club
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Q1. If the formula is correct, the min level of a player who is able to face max PL monsters is 349. ((349+125)^ 1.27)) - 247 = 2254 >= 2250 (max PL) (ex: Kodou Yuki, Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi, Cracker Jim) However, according to my observations, players under level 349 are able to encounter max PL monsters: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2448029 (player level: 273) https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3943898 (player level: 298) https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3792215 (player level: 331) so on and so forth Is the formula incorrect, or did I make a wrong calculation? Q2. Quoted from wiki: CODE The system is biased towards picking monsters that are closer to the player's PL cap. A low/mid-level player (200 ~ 350) won't be able to encounter max PL monsters as frequently as a higher-level player, right? If so, when training a monster to target low/mid-level players, is it a good idea to stop feeding crystals when monster's PL meets the player's PL cap? Q3. For those of you who have PL1000+ monsters of two or more of the classes below, can you rank the classes by average number of daily gifts? (based on your experience) "23" "Arthropod" "26" "Mechanoid" "29" "Celestial" "34" "Dragonkin" "85" "Giant" (ignore those quoted numbers) This post has been edited by djackallstar: Jul 10 2015, 15:40
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Jul 10 2015, 06:14
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(Sinjid @ Jul 10 2015, 03:47)  now im stuck and idk what to do. some change in gameplay? items?
in abilities, i have all general,2h, heavy and supportive that i can have. deprecating only 2 in silence and 3 in slow. everything else is in the images.
i resently buy the 2h mace for soulbound but i dont have the soul fragments yet (60 of 74) i was planing to IW it for void damage in between. Past level 150-something, 2h is either too suicidal or too Cure-tedious if you want to play on a remotely interesting difficulty. Even level 400+ players with all their great gear and forging often find 2h too lacking in defense to be worth it. Your best option is to switch to 1h so you can work on handling IWBTH and PFUDOR, which you should be able to play on all arenas by 280-300 or so. Get a shield with good block (block is most important stat for 1h), get a rapier so Penetrated Armor compensates for 1h's lowish damage output, and see how things go from there. 1h works best with heavy armor, so no need to change armor. Definitely wait to soulfuse anything until you have a bit more experience.
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Jul 10 2015, 06:24
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 10 2015, 04:14)  Is the formula incorrect Either the formula is wrong (no surprise), or the formula comes out with a number that is not the "cap", but the average PL of a monster that most closely matches the player's level. QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 10 2015, 04:14)  A low/mid-level player (200 ~ 350) won't be able to encounter max PL monsters as frequently as a higher-level player, right? If so, when training a monster to target low/mid-level players, is it a good idea to stop feeding crystals when monster's PL meets the player's PL? That matches my experience. I started seeing Kodou Yuki and Tsukiko between level 250-300, but they didn't become frequent until later.
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Jul 10 2015, 06:32
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sinjid @ Jul 10 2015, 10:47)  I'm currently playing a 2h heavy armor, but in the last patches i can only raise the difficulty to nightmare (with a lot of potions consumed) and random encounters in hell (in nintendo its like a dead end if 6+ monsters) in the past, i remember lvling 150->200 with IWBTH randoms and hell/nintendo arenas with a fine ethereal mace of balance and some superior plate of idk sufix now im stuck and idk what to do. some change in gameplay? items? in abilities, i have all general,2h, heavy and supportive that i can have. deprecating only 2 in silence and 3 in slow. everything else is in the images. i resently buy the 2h mace for soulbound but i dont have the soul fragments yet (60 of 74) i was planing to IW it for void damage in between. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/j9dsE3J.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/pEzqiMh.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/oNRoSP4.jpg) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/q7NNMkc.jpg) well , if you planning to keep using 2H then you need estoc for more damage in high difficulty ( IWBTH & PFUDOR ) or mace for safety but slower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) try using light for 2H ( you can combine shade with leather or just use full set shade if your defensive stats is good ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) for 2H heavy , you need very high stats for PMI and MMI + ADB to do IWBTH above (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jul 10 2015, 06:35
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Jul 10 2015, 12:40)  No real problem, I just thought it was an interesting idea. That and I was just helping to explain it better, since there seemed to be confusion about what he meant.
How is it interesting? It doesn't make the game more fun. It only changes a minor battle mechanism that only the hardcore, min-maxing players would mildly care about for their spreadsheets This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jul 10 2015, 06:36
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Jul 10 2015, 08:08
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Sinjid
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ok, i will try to get a rapier and a shield. now some other questions, whats the recomended time for check the monsters lab to get the gifts?
how do you do to get like 2 o 3 millon credits for items?
and whats happening with the equipment market? all items are excessively hi lvl.
tnx for the advise and sorry if my english is bad, not native
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Jul 10 2015, 08:24
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Dammon
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QUOTE(Sinjid @ Jul 9 2015, 23:08)  ok, i will try to get a rapier and a shield. now some other questions, whats the recomended time for check the monsters lab to get the gifts?
Once per day is enough unless they are really high level. QUOTE(Sinjid @ Jul 9 2015, 23:08)  how do you do to get like 2 o 3 millon credits for items?
By grinding. QUOTE(Sinjid @ Jul 9 2015, 23:08)  and whats happening with the equipment market? all items are excessively hi lvl.
You just need to level up more.
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