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Jul 9 2015, 05:40
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wwgenesis
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Haven't played in a while.
Is 1H + Block still good?
Also, how do pots work now? It only lets me set 1 unique pot at most in my battle inventory slots.
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Jul 9 2015, 05:49
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omgwtflolfaggot
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jul 8 2015, 21:40)  Haven't played in a while.
Is 1H + Block still good?
Also, how do pots work now? It only lets me set 1 unique pot at most in my battle inventory slots.
1H + Block is good for surviving. Pots will auto-restock in battle now, I think every 40 turns.
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Jul 9 2015, 06:23
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wwgenesis
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Oh, alright. Doesn't that also mean that I can't spam pots anymore though?
Also, would you happen to know the market price of pots? Thanks!
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Jul 9 2015, 06:54
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jul 9 2015, 03:40)  Is 1H + Block still good? 1h is still the only efficient way to play on high difficulty. (Outside of godly gears / heavy forging / high level). QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jul 9 2015, 04:23)  Oh, alright. Doesn't that also mean that I can't spam pots anymore though?
Also, would you happen to know the market price of pots? Thanks! It means you can spam - much more than before, but that they'll only restore a moderate amount of your MP/SP pool, unlike Heroics which would usually fill them completely (except for mage's MP). Well, you could use Elixers instead of draughts/potions to fill bars completely, but that's very expensive and not worth it for most. Check difference between WTS prices and WTB prices for each item to get the best sense of prices.
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Jul 9 2015, 06:59
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lwprbf
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Just got my first legend drop. Legendary ETHEREAL OAKSince i am a melee what should i do with it? Is it possible that i can sell it or trade it to upgrade my melee set?
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Jul 9 2015, 07:13
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(lwprbf @ Jul 9 2015, 04:59)  Just got my first legend drop. Legendary ETHEREAL OAKSince i am a melee what should i do with it? Is it possible that i can sell it or trade it to upgrade my melee set? No useful prefix, no useful suffix = junk. Turn it into a high-grade wood for most profit. Staffs need either EDB, proficiency, or Destruction to be worth considering.
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Jul 9 2015, 08:19
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 9 2015, 13:13)  Staffs need either EDB, proficiency, or Destruction to be worth considering.
And maybe Legendary/Peerless focus staffs as well? 1. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 20m in StonyCat's shop. 2. Irrc hentai_fusion bought a Peerless Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus with millions of credits. (tho it happened before 0.82) 3. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 600k in milannews' shop. 4. I sold a 0.82 Legendary Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus at 200k in my shop. 5. I forgot his complete ID, but there is a player named "f..." who has/had been collecting Leg+ focus staffs.
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Jul 9 2015, 08:20
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Dead-ed
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Knowing the nature of the highest bidder it's obvious.
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Jul 9 2015, 08:45
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djackallstar
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As of 0.77 the battle system will do three seperate rolls for resist for offensive spells. How do the three rolls work with the player's counter-resist? Which of the following scenarios is correct?
Scenario 1 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 2 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and partially nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 50% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 3 (counter-resist kicks in after all rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> 2nd roll for resist -> successful ->3rd roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted.
This post has been edited by djackallstar: Jul 9 2015, 09:09
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Jul 9 2015, 09:24
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kiko159
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Haven't played in a while.
Is 1H + Block still good?
Also, how do pots work now? It only lets me set 1 unique pot at most in my battle inventory slots.
1H + Block is good for surviving.
But is DW better than 1H+ Block? I have a good parry.
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Jul 9 2015, 09:28
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:06)  I fooled around a lot just to make sure, and you never get hit before your attacks land no matter what you do. I'm saying: - you choose slow action
- monster hits you
- action resolves
- monster hits you again if he's fast enough
Instead of: - you choose slow action
- what monsters? lol
This will affect melees too, albeit less drastically. You seem to think that mages spend the long cast time waving their hands/staves and reciting some mumbo jumbo, and the spell gets cast at the end. But maybe in HV, spells are instantaneously cast and the remaining time is spent fapping. Because, well, Hentaiverse. I really don't understand your motive for suggesting changes when, imo, you don't understand the current balance. QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 9 2015, 14:45)  As of 0.77 the battle system will do three seperate rolls for resist for offensive spells. How do the three rolls work with the player's counter-resist? Which of the following scenarios is correct?
I believe none of them are correct. Counter-resist is applied to the monster's resist, ie. counter-resist bonus of 30% would reduce a monster's 10% resist to 7% resist. 3 rolls are made using the adjusted resist. This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jul 9 2015, 09:33
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Jul 9 2015, 09:30
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 9 2015, 14:45)  As of 0.77 the battle system will do three seperate rolls for resist for offensive spells. How do the three rolls work with the player's counter-resist? Which of the following scenarios is correct?
Scenario 1 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 2 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and partially nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 50% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 3 (counter-resist kicks in after all rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> 2nd roll for resist -> successful ->3rd roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted.
none of the above. counter resist should be just like counter evade and counter parry. Its just a multiplier for the resist %
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Jul 9 2015, 09:32
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kiko159 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:24)  Is 1H + Block still good?
yup. still the best melee style available for lv200+ QUOTE(kiko159 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:24)  Also, how do pots work now? It only lets me set 1 unique pot at most in my battle inventory slots.
you can carry infinite amount - well, let's say your maximum possible stock - but can use each type only within a 50-turns cooldown QUOTE(kiko159 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:24)  But is DW better than 1H+ Block? I have a good parry.
at mid-levels surely not. it's still decent and way better than 2H, but 1H is simply OP. maybe at higher levels - stony and mantra are shade/DW users, just FYI - but still...
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Jul 9 2015, 09:43
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(kiko159 @ Jul 9 2015, 14:24)  Haven't played in a while.
Is 1H + Block still good?
Also, how do pots work now? It only lets me set 1 unique pot at most in my battle inventory slots.
1H + Block is good for surviving. But is DW better than 1H+ Block? I have a good parry.
nope , 1H is the best defensive style in HV (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 9 2015, 10:11
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 9 2015, 06:19)  And maybe Legendary/Peerless focus staffs as well? 1. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 20m in StonyCat's shop. 2. Irrc hentai_fusion bought a Peerless Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus with millions of credits. (tho it happened before 0.82) 3. This Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus is priced at 600k in milannews' shop. 4. I sold a 0.82 Legendary Ethereal Oak Staff of Focus at 200k in my shop. 5. I forgot his complete ID, but there is a player named "f..." who has/had been collecting Leg+ focus staffs. It makes sense that something with a good EDB prefix (or suffix) would indeed be somewhat worthwhile. And at the Leg+ level, getting matching/good staffs is so rare that Focus can be fine if the other prefix is good. The issue is useless prefix (eg. Ethereal) + less-useful suffix (eg. Earth-walker, Focus). Well, it might be bought, if Peerless or by someone who doesn't understand EDB well enough yet, but I don't think that would be reliable enough to count on as a good price indicator... But maybe if he gets a shop he can put it in there and hope that a chump sees the "LEGENDARY!" part and buys it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 9 2015, 06:45)  Scenario 1 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 2 (counter-resist kicks in between seperate rolls for resist, and partially nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 50% resisted (no 2nd and 3rd rolls for resist because counter-resist succeeded)
Scenario 3 (counter-resist kicks in after all rolls for resist, and completely nullifies the damage if succeeded) The player casts an offensive spell -> 1st roll for resist -> successful -> 2nd roll for resist -> successful ->3rd roll for resist -> successful -> A roll for counter-resist -> counter-resist is successful -> 0% resisted. Based on how other HV mechanics work, I would think that each Resist roll has counter-resist effects integrated as well, before the RNG is called. Eg., if the base resist chance after other factors is 0.1000, and counter-resist is 20%, then the threshold for successful resist would be set to 0.0800. That would also be quite simple to program, much more than Scenario 2. Scenario 3 is a possibility, but it doesn't seem right. Still, it could be tested for without too much trouble. One would use a couple of blood tokens on Konata, once without counter-resist and once with a good amount, and see if the sum of (0, 1, 2, 3 successful) resist rolls decrease by the expected amount if the scenario in the above paragraph is correct, or if the proportion of (3 successful to 2 successful to 1 successful resist rolls) remains similar (without a notable decrease in 75% and 90% resists compared to 50% resists), in which case (3) may be correct. QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 9 2015, 07:28)  I really don't understand your motive for suggesting changes when, imo, you don't understand the current balance. This is an accurate assessment of those many "suggestions". I'd be willing to bet that poster spent 3x as long or more working up suggestions to post in the past few months than actually playing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(kiko159 @ Jul 9 2015, 07:24)  But is DW better than 1H+ Block? I have a good parry. Parry is nice, but it doesn't stun like 1h's counter-attacks do, which is a huge help. DW also cannot endlessly spirit stance like 1h can. 1h is the best choice for anyone trying to play high difficulty past low-levels.
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Jul 9 2015, 10:30
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 9 2015, 16:11)  It makes sense that something with a good EDB prefix (or suffix) would indeed be somewhat worthwhile. And at the Leg+ level, getting matching/good staffs is so rare that Focus can be fine if the other prefix is good. The issue is useless prefix (eg. Ethereal) + less-useful suffix (eg. Earth-walker, Focus). Well, it might be bought, if Peerless or by someone who doesn't understand EDB well enough yet, but I don't think that would be reliable enough to count on as a good price indicator...
back then monster evade and resist was really crazy so the extra accuracy and counter-resist helps. ethereal is due to my obsession with 0 burden and 0 interference, and i think interference used to cause a lot more negative effects than it does now.
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Jul 9 2015, 14:29
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jul 8 2015, 15:06)  I fooled around a lot just to make sure, and you never get hit before your attacks land no matter what you do. I'm saying: - you choose slow action
- monster hits you
- action resolves
- monster hits you again if he's fast enough
Instead of: - you choose slow action
- what monsters? lol
This will affect melees too, albeit less drastically. Casting T3, Imperil, Full heal, Arcane focus etc you get hit once or a few times afterwards. Your suggestion seems to not be serious at all. If you are playing on any reasonable difficulty its very unlikely to instagib all monsters unless you have godly dark gear or something. Farewell qw3rty67, I knew thee briefly.
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Jul 9 2015, 15:32
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mozilla browser
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I'm trying to figure out whether to bazaar or salvage trashy exquisite/magnificent equipment. Is there any market for MG/HG Leathers and Metals?
WTB appears to be empty for these materials (at least, not threads that have been active in the past couple of months). WTS exists, but I don't know whether those materials actually move. It seems to be a buyer's market anyway, so I don't know see why anyone would buy at WTS prices.
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Jul 9 2015, 15:34
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Aegnor Alkarin
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 8 2015, 13:56)  quite decent drop, i'd say. interested in selling it?
You have an offer?
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