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post Jun 29 2011, 23:33
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yep channeling is a nice way to get your buffs free. if you're mage, you'll want to start off long IW/grinds/arenas like cronauron says

i personally go for arcane focus/regen ii/spark in order of descending priority. but once the rounds progress i do arcane focus/spark (since regen ii cures about 160 hp per turn while regen i cures about 135hp per turn for me)

since arcane focus mana cost = your level, you can see why it's usually no.1 on the channeling priority. im sure the situation will be similar for people that use heartseeker

if you're melee, just use channeling on your most useful buffs/expensive ones (most useful/expensive usually go hand in hand)

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post Jun 30 2011, 00:33
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 29 2011, 20:14) *

iirc, their normal attacks count as physicals. so even though it may be a certain element (soul/dark/holy), weaken still helps. whether or not you decide to go with the weaken route is up to you.

yes the legendary trophies yield better loot than the voiceboxes/etc


For me the only trophy that consistently gives "better" gear is the Noodly Appendage, every other trophy usually yields right stinkers.
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post Jun 30 2011, 00:53
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Is mana regen during battle divided by 15?
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post Jun 30 2011, 05:14
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ Jun 29 2011, 17:53) *

Is mana regen during battle divided by 15?

Yep. Listed mana regen is per minute outside of battle, and per 15 turns inside of battle. Technically, 1 turn = 2 seconds and then mana regen is doubled on top of that.
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post Jun 30 2011, 05:53
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how does Innate Arcana I work? I cant use regen or arcane focus?

What all skills can you use with it?
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post Jun 30 2011, 06:00
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What is the recommended gear for mages? Until now I was going for gossamer/elementalist + focus staff, but now I wonder. Is phase with +elemental damage better than the extra proficiency from elementalist? Or is it maybe better to go with fox for high int?

I don't like to use the defensive gear much, except for bosses. I like my monsters fried and crispy in one or two rounds.
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post Jun 30 2011, 06:42
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Arcana spells
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...0&hl=arcana
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...6&hl=arcana

just had to search arcana in release notes. you can do ctrl+f from there

every % Elemental Damage Bonus (EDB) adds 1% extra dmg to that specific element
every 2 proficiency points add 1% extra dmg to everything that's in that proficiency (this applies for divine/elemental/forbidden I believe)

The significance of 1 extra point of int is unknown as of this moment

you can do that math from there
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post Jun 30 2011, 06:53
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QUOTE(odine @ Jun 30 2011, 06:00) *

What is the recommended gear for mages? Until now I was going for gossamer/elementalist + focus staff, but now I wonder. Is phase with +elemental damage better than the extra proficiency from elementalist? Or is it maybe better to go with fox for high int?

I don't like to use the defensive gear much, except for bosses. I like my monsters fried and crispy in one or two rounds.



They were talking about this a week ago or so here is the post

QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jun 12 2011, 01:08) *

Depends on your current stats and setup.

1% EDB is 1% damage, 1 point prof is 0.5% (but affects all elemental spells).

You just have to run the math (and guesstimate, for stats).

Damage formula is Base * (1+Prof / 200) * (1 + EDB) * (1+MDM).
Base is computed from your Magic Rating and the Enemy Barrier Rating.

Magic Rating's effect is poorly understood, but the tougher the monster the more it helps. On Bosses or higher it can be as much as 2% per point, it's a lot less on commons.

So, let's compare equipment that gives 50 prof with stuff that gives 20% EDB for a player with 0 prof and 100 prof. Assume 0 MDM and we'll call base 1.

0 prof: Base * (1+0 Prof) * (1 + 0 EDB) = 1x Base
+ Prof: Base * (1+ 50 Prof / 200) = 1.25x Base
+ EDB: Base * (1 + 0 Prof) *(1 + 0.2 EDB) = 1.2x Base

100 prof: Base * (1+100 Prof) * (1 + 0 EDB) = 1.5x Base
+ Prof: Base * (1+ 150 Prof / 200) = 1.75x Base
+ EDB: Base * (1 + 100 Prof) *(1 + 0.2 EDB) = 1.8x Base

So, the guy with 0 prof is better served with Elementalist, the guy with 100 with EDB in this case.

Higher level mages can explain some of this further (Sayo Aisaka did the testing for these, look for his 'HV Secrets Revealed' or similar post). For a lot of stuff you really do just have to run the math.


its on page 330

Thanks alot dcherry

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post Jun 30 2011, 09:35
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Thanks a lot dcherry and monkey08881, that helped me a lot.
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post Jun 30 2011, 14:28
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have a question about Training

Assimilator +10% Proficiency Gain Rate

it's good in effect or not necessary at all ?

i want to rise my Divine proficiency

how many level shall i training to get good effect ?

i see it's high costs so worry about it
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post Jun 30 2011, 17:01
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It's not bad, but yea don't invest more than 1-2 levels into it if you're only going to power-level one proficiency.
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post Jun 30 2011, 18:03
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thank you explain that to me

i will try to training 2 level of Assimilator

hope it helpful T_T it's costs to much
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post Jun 30 2011, 23:09
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i personally wouldn't bother upgrading it. i heard it goes up really high in expenses quickly and if you're grinding proficiency you'll probably be holding a button down. the training will probably be the difference between holding your button down for the whole movie or just 2/3's of the movie.
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post Jun 30 2011, 23:59
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Is it possible to bind a certain spell to a certain hotkey? Clicking with mouse x500 times is sort of... annoying =\
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post Jul 1 2011, 00:06
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pressing r will recast your recent spell

r is really useful for spell proficiency grinding
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post Jul 1 2011, 00:06
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Hotkeys - Wiki

Lookie here
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post Jul 1 2011, 05:45
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Hotkeys is very useful but careful maze put wrong answer
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post Jul 1 2011, 10:16
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Hmm, at what level do you reckon I should switch to a destruction staff? My focus one has quite a good MDM right (Base 9) now for a focus but I think I should switch to Heroic as a regular difficulty now right?
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post Jul 1 2011, 10:28
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i think teeen said he used focus until 200. what's your accuracy at the moment? i think it should be pretty safe for you to go destruction/edb now

my base accuracy before modifiers is 90% right now so i've been thinking of swapping over to higher damage as well. the % MCB is pretty nice though (especially when i have AF on)
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jul 1 2011, 10:28) *

i think teeen said he used focus until 200. what's your accuracy at the moment? i think it should be pretty safe for you to go destruction/edb now

my base accuracy before modifiers is 90% right now so i've been thinking of swapping over to higher damage as well. the % MCB is pretty nice though (especially when i have AF on)


Interesting to note, my accuracy before modifiers is 91 atm. With modifiers I hit 99.5% of the time if I have Arcane focus on. I've got a destruction with a 13.29 base MDM but I'm not sure if it's worth the trade off my accuracy being 97%
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