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Jun 14 2015, 14:04
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tetron
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 14 2015, 17:32)  You spent 50m on power slaughter to boosts your adb by 2k, only to realise your clear time is not at all faster since it's capped by OFC cooldown (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) That's a screwed up logic. 1H does not represent the entire Melee category.
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Jun 14 2015, 14:08
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 14 2015, 22:04)  That's a screwed up logic. 1H does not represent the entire Melee category.
that's the most cost-effective melee style Expect to shell out even to be a competent endgame non-1H players This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jun 14 2015, 14:11
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Jun 14 2015, 14:14
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tetron
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 14 2015, 17:38)  that's the most cost-effective melee style
Expect to shell out even to be a competent endgame non-1H players
I'm eagerly waiting for the next patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Jun 14 2015, 14:17
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nec1986
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Because its some type of overdamage. If 3 mobs have 40k, 55k, 65k hp than 15k attacks is 12 turns. Twice of that 7 turn (70% increase). And melee suffer even more, because its very hard to get twice of ordinary attack. Mage suffer more from low diff, because if damage is very high, than all dies anyway fast. But at least mage has much bigger difference and all is from equal to better result. QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 14 2015, 12:17)  Anyway, I have a question: What are your Archeologist level? And with that level, how many Artifacts do you usually get after a full Arena clear?
With 4lvl i get something like 2-4 as i remember. 3-8 after full fest.
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Jun 14 2015, 14:19
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nec1986
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Im afraid new patch can be solid break point for mages...and im spending credits in it.
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Jun 14 2015, 14:21
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 14 2015, 05:14)  I'm eagerly waiting for the next patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) sssh. Let people siphon matrixes & actuators first.
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Jun 14 2015, 14:29
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 14 2015, 19:02)  You spent 50m on power slaughter to boosts your adb by 2k, only to realise your clear time is not at all faster since it's capped by OFC cooldown (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) OFC cooldown playing huge factor for my clearing speed in DwD (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jun 14 2015, 14:29
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Jun 14 2015, 14:40
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tetron
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 14 2015, 17:47)  Because its some type of overdamage. If 3 mobs have 40k, 55k, 65k hp than 15k attacks is 12 turns. Twice of that 7 turn (70% increase). And melee suffer even more, because its very hard to get twice of ordinary attack. Mage suffer more from low diff, because if damage is very high, than all dies anyway fast. But at least mage has much bigger difference and all is from equal to better result.
The word "suffering" does not fit well with Melee. Melee is "slow but safe", while Mage is "fast but fragile". If these policies change, the game will be broken. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 14 2015, 17:47)  With 4lvl i get something like 2-4 as i remember. 3-8 after full fest.
Thanks for the info. QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jun 14 2015, 17:51)  sssh. Let people siphon matrixes & actuators first.
Oops. I'll keep quite. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Jun 14 2015, 14:43
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nec1986
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So i think actually artifact drop should be closer to 0,15% base. Wiki says 0.1%, but its only 3 arti with my training after fest. Im not getting 8 each time, but near 3 looks minimal.
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Jun 14 2015, 14:43
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King Vulture
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to use niten, you should firts grind 2h and dual proficiencies to 100 at least
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Jun 14 2015, 14:52
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hentai_fusion
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zzz... doing PFUDOR TTnT using 1H is so long and boring. and rewards are crap. i literally potion-ed my way to victory. wasted some time cos i forgot to slot imperil on quickbar and from the frequent potion usage. someone please create a quickbar for potions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 
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Jun 14 2015, 15:08
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simrock87
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jun 14 2015, 14:52)  zzz... doing PFUDOR TTnT using 1H is so long and boring.
and rewards are crap.
i literally potion-ed my way to victory.
wasted some time cos i forgot to slot imperil on quickbar and from the frequent potion usage.
Congratulations (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE someone please create a quickbar for potions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) *cough* HV - Potions Indicator *cough*
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Jun 14 2015, 15:09
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jun 14 2015, 19:52)  zzz... doing PFUDOR TTnT using 1H is so long and boring. and rewards are crap. i literally potion-ed my way to victory. wasted some time cos i forgot to slot imperil on quickbar and from the frequent potion usage. someone please create a quickbar for potions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)  you maybe need to see how fast cat can clear it with his 1H set (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I still need 320~350 turns to finish PFU TTT (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Jun 14 2015, 15:24
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mozilla browser
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I picked up 7 artifacts today from arena clear at IWBTH/PFUDOR.
Why play TTT RoB, instead of FSM RoB? Only Noodly is worth anything, no? Edit: unless of course you get more than 5 blood tokens a day. I wonder if anyone plays enough to clear all the RoB daily and still has net positive balance of blood tokens.
It's time to think about the next hath perk to get... Should I go for Elementalist proficiency (because of switch to elemental mage), supportive proficiency (for cure boost), deprecating proficiency (so imperil gets resisted less), IA V (for a tiny bit of mana savings). Or, are there rumors about next patch that should give me pause? Eg - possibility of new hath perks - new mitigations might mean I should not commit to switching to elemental mage - possible imperil tweak - what was that thing about siphoning actuators and dmm?
This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jun 14 2015, 15:46
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Jun 14 2015, 15:43
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 20:24)  I picked up 7 artifacts today from arena clear at IWBTH/PFUDOR.
Why play TTT RoB, instead of FSM RoB? Only Noodly is worth anything, no? Edit: unless of course you get more than 5 blood tokens a day. I wonder if anyone plays enough to clear all the RoB daily and still has net positive balance of blood tokens.
TTT is great place to find some great leg in previous patch , but we need danixxx name for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jun 14 2015, 16:01
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rosisou
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Jun 14 2015, 09:39)  thanks.
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Jun 14 2015, 16:10
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 14 2015, 12:01)  2/4 per day with lv.5? Eww. That's depressing to hear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Well, what can you expect? I only never missed Trio and the Tree arena everyday. Add Fresh Meat if I'm not tired. 2 or 3 more arenas if I'm on fire. Expecting 7 artifact from playing 5 arenas (out of 22) is too much. I do get 7 if I play all 22 though..
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Jun 14 2015, 17:08
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tetron
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jun 14 2015, 18:22)  zzz... doing PFUDOR TTnT using 1H is so long and boring.
and rewards are crap.
i literally potion-ed my way to victory.
wasted some time cos i forgot to slot imperil on quickbar and from the frequent potion usage.
Congo. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 18:54)  I wonder if anyone plays enough to clear all the RoB daily and still has net positive balance of blood tokens.
Yeah, this I'd also like to know. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 18:54)  It's time to think about the next hath perk to get... Should I go for Elementalist proficiency (because of switch to elemental mage), supportive proficiency (for cure boost), deprecating proficiency (so imperil gets resisted less), IA V (for a tiny bit of mana savings). Or, are there rumors about next patch that should give me pause?
You should save a bit more and go for the next Damage perk. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 18:54)  - possibility of new hath perks
About what I've seen about Tenboro, I'll say don't count on it to be some miracle. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 18:54)  - possible imperil tweak
*ahem* It's the exact opposite. When the mitigation change happens, Imperil will become much more useless. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 14 2015, 18:54)  - what was that thing about siphoning actuators and dmm?
He was just saying that you should sell your actuators and dmm before the next patch, since 1H will not be mainstream after the next patch, leaving you unable to sell those. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 14 2015, 19:40)  I only have 130 tokens now so I dun want to waste them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) 130 Blood Tokens??????????????????????????????? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 14 2015, 17:09
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