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post Jun 6 2015, 06:58
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QUOTE(orgolove @ Jun 6 2015, 14:53) *

Unfortunately, my equipment are utter crap. Until I stop gaining several levels a day, I'm trying to not invest in new equipment. 30-35k means they're really close to being in my range soon - I'll get the 250k from clearing TTT and second to last arena first time...

How helpful is the OFC? There isn't much detail about it in the wiki - what's the cooldown, mana cost, and what is the damage based on?

For further details refer to this Link in the wiki

It helps improve the clear time for melee users (especially 1H since they gain overcharge so fast) but it is not exactly game breaking or that useful IMO
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post Jun 6 2015, 07:06
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Ohh. I didn't see that.

Darn, the damage is based on physical damage? And overcharge? It's... "useless" for mages. :/ Nevermind... I changed my mind.
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post Jun 6 2015, 07:17
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QUOTE(orgolove @ Jun 6 2015, 04:53) *

Unfortunately, my equipment are utter crap. Until I stop gaining several levels a day, I'm trying to not invest in new equipment. 30-35k means they're really close to being in my range soon - I'll get the 250k from clearing TTT and second to last arena first time...

How helpful is the OFC? There isn't much detail about it in the wiki - what's the cooldown, mana cost, and what is the damage based on?
OFC isn't a bad idea if you're melee, especially due to fast equipment rust now. (100% trash for mage though) For me, OFC does enough damage to kill or nearly kill most monsters on PF. The ones that live are Giants which have 1-30% HP remaining.

But it's only really worthwhile when there are 6+ monsters (depending on ADB), otherwise your turns/battle will be higher continuing as normal in spirit stance due to overcharge regeneration. (If not 1h, might not even be worth it) So if you play only arena, OFC will not help much, except in the last 1/3 or 1/4. It is great in GF high difficulty GF and in high difficulty DwD.

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post Jun 6 2015, 07:31
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 6 2015, 12:17) *

OFC isn't a bad idea if you're melee, especially due to fast equipment rust now. (100% trash for mage though) For me, OFC does enough damage to kill or nearly kill most monsters on PF. The ones that live are Giants which have 1-30% HP remaining.

But it's only really worthwhile when there are 6+ monsters (depending on ADB), otherwise your turns/battle will be higher continuing as normal in spirit stance due to overcharge regeneration. (If not 1h, might not even be worth it) So if you play only arena, OFC will not help much, except in the last 1/3 or 1/4. It is great in GF high difficulty GF and in high difficulty DwD.

mostly Gc in memory and HTTP kodou yuki that still alive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 08:02
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OFC is a must for 1H melee. IMO it shows the most cost-effective stuff for level 300~350+ melee who already has basic 1H set, especially at high difficulty of SG arena, IW, and GF.
Not only for reducing clear time ~15-30% depends on the battle, but also for lowering the difficulty to clear the hardest challenge.
Just with 800k~1m! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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That's some pretty good luck there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I lost my luck in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Well, they are mostly cotton of warding, leather of stoneskin, or plate of deflection at best... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jun 6 2015, 08:53
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 6 2015, 02:38) *

If artifact drop rate is the same, that's another point in favor of lower difficulty. I need to calculate experience/artifacts/crystals/stamina+repair per time once I know enough to do so.


It should be same. Hellfest probably still the best in credits/time, because its fast. Stamina? I include that too, but last time im thinking maybe i shouldnt. Because artifacts is more or less enough for restoration. So we can just count credits+crystals+equip and maybe mana pots. Price for that isnt very bad and its another plus for hell, because it req less and gives more per hour. Scrolls/infusions/shards mostly or small or doesnt worth much. But pffest still has good value, because for low stamina we still get huge amount of crystals. And also like x1.5 exp. I got like 720m per full run. Huge amount. Arena+1pf fest+daily is almost 1lvl for me.


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post Jun 6 2015, 09:19
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 6 2015, 01:41) *

But you can, to the shop for one c each. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I wonder if there are any true retard who has done that already. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 12:23) *

Arena+1pf fest+daily is almost 1lvl for me.

What playstyle do you use to play like that? And what's your T/S? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 09:22
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So I got this shield today, is it any good? I can't find the new equipment ranges so I decided to ask instead.
Also ended up switching to 1h/heavy since I bought this set for like 60k total Rapier Helmet Chest Gloves Boots and I can't believe how easy it was to do hell arenas even with 0 prof and low str I was struggling so much as a wind mage even doing nightmare. I plan to try higher diff arenas after I hit 200 prof but yeah any general advice I could get since I'm kinda new to 1h?
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post Jun 6 2015, 09:39
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QUOTE(Kazuki3 @ Jun 6 2015, 07:22) *

So I got this shield today, is it any good? I can't find the new equipment ranges so I decided to ask instead.
Also ended up switching to 1h/heavy since I bought this set for like 60k total Rapier Helmet Chest Gloves Boots and I can't believe how easy it was to do hell arenas even with 0 prof and low str I was struggling so much as a wind mage even doing nightmare. I plan to try higher diff arenas after I hit 200 prof but yeah any general advice I could get since I'm kinda new to 1h?
Shield is great - higher than 0.81 Mmax block. Rapier is nice too. Armor could be better but it's a cheap starting set so that's fine.

Depending on how much spare funds you have, maybe forge shield to 10 or 15 block. It'll help a whole lot, if you plan on staying with 1h. Only problem with the shield is lack of dexterity (agi is near useless), but that's not dealbreaking, especially once you get to a higher level.

See how things are once you can perma-Spirit Stance, if you can't already.
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post Jun 6 2015, 09:45
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Im not doing that each day. Usually only arenas (all but sg) and sometimes near hellfest if i have time. But my t/s is probably quite good. Without much attention i have 2-2,5 (1h). I tried once with full concentration and got 3,5 but thats quite boring. Instead i prefer to watch something and play in background. Also thats possibly only in ie11. I checked many with simple spellspam+nopopup, but all is slower. Even recorded video somewhere about it. With mage and imperil i got 1,5-2. But imperil is quite hard style. I mean its constant focusing. Resist, cures and so on.
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:01
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 13:15) *

Also thats possibly only in ie11.

Is ie11 faster than Iron? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 13:15) *

But imperil is quite hard style. I mean its constant focusing. Resist, cures and so on.

True, but it's also the fastest style right now. So I think a little bit of concentration is well worth it, if I can get over with the Arenas quickly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:36
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 08:01) *
True, but it's also the fastest style right now. So I think a little bit of concentration is well worth it, if I can get over with the Arenas quickly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But then your anime backlog will only keep growing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Is ie11 faster than Iron? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
He did a video some time ago. But best way to compare would be FSM, I think.

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post Jun 6 2015, 10:39
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 6 2015, 14:06) *

But then your anime backlog will only keep growing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Well, if we want to absolutely not pay attention to HV and want more time for Anime, there is 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:41
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Sure. Also mages is quite easy for top result. Their power like reverse exponent.But melee is like bottom direct line. I mean difference between my and x50 forged set is only like 10% clearspeed. Very low increase for high price and different ways for increase only:

1. Damage perks. Huge price
2. Good slaughter set. And this one worth probably even more than mage in few times.

Mage can buy even Mmax set, forge it a bit and its already quite close to top result and in few times faster than 1h.
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:45
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 14:11) *

2. Good slaughter set. And this one worth probably even more than mage in few times.

Speaking of which, that Agile Shade is getting some insane bid. Is that the highest bid for a shade so far in the history of HV? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:48
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 09:19) *

I wonder if there are any true retard who has done that already. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Oh, im sure there are, im sure there are. Every second, a douche is born. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 11:45) *

Speaking of which, that Agile Shade is getting some insane bid. Is that the highest bid for a shade so far in the history of HV? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Thats already 38.5m.
Yea, 12,56 is old P+3, but still...its light.
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post Jun 6 2015, 10:56
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 6 2015, 08:55) *
Thats already 38.5m.
Yea, 12,56 is old P+3, but still...its light.
It's StonyCat. No more explanation needed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 11:10
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 6 2015, 14:18) *

Every second, a douche is born. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

True, true. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 6 2015, 14:26) *

It's StonyCat. No more explanation needed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Oh come on! I could understand if it was new-patch Peerless. But that much for leg grade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Jun 6 2015, 11:24
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 6 2015, 17:10) *

True, true. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Oh come on! I could understand if it was new-patch Peerless. But that much for leg grade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

the richest player in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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