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post May 25 2015, 09:23
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QUOTE(orgolove @ May 25 2015, 05:48) *
Now that I got IA1 and IA2, I'm having trouble choosing which Hath perk to work towards. Is there another cost-efficient perk that I should try to get?

The next level of IA costs 250, so I'm not getting that...

Should I start saving my credits and try to get better equipment rather than exchanging more hath?
Better equipment is probably a better goal now, though if you can play at least Nintendo you might be better off just saving your funds while leveling up, and only buy/levelbind OK gear after level 280 or so. (otherwise you may outgrow it too quickly. it depends how much you play.)

This is just an idea, but you might try forging all your gear to 5. Most forge materials are returned after salvaging, which you will be doing once you outgrow it anyway, and levels 0-5 don't require any expensive bindings like Slaughter. It might turn Superior Smax-equivalent stats into a bit more than Emax-equivalent. What do others think about this? Find-forge-salvage-repeat might be the strategy to turn to now that lower-level equipment can only be used for a moderate amount of time before turning to trash.
QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 25 2015, 06:41) *
thinking of finally giving 1H a try cos right now i can't even do a 25 round PFUDOR arena without spamming pots... so how to use 1H?

attack a few times to get some OC, then switch on SS and cast HS and regen. then switch off SS and hold down number key?

and how much block and mitigation should i aim for?
Given your level, you should have zero problems with survivability regardless of gear. (Low-defense, meh-quality Power Slaughter at level 300 is enough to finish all non-SG arenas at PFUDOR) Your main consideration will be damage output or lack thereof.

Might as well cast Heartseeker as soon as you start attacking, regardless of spirit stance.

1h can permanently spirit stance when there are lots of monsters, and near-permanently spirit stance when there are only a handful (with 4 or 5 in beginning of arena, I can start SS on first round and only run out of OC come round 25 or 35)

You do want at least an Emax block force shield though.
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post May 25 2015, 09:49
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 25 2015, 00:23) *
Find-forge-salvage-repeat

that's the point of my previous question.
Keep doing that till find a lmax (new range) for damage peak. But the chance...
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post May 25 2015, 09:54
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This is just an idea, but you might try forging all your gear to 5. Most forge materials are returned after salvaging, which you will be doing once you outgrow it anyway, and levels 0-5 don't require any expensive bindings like Slaughter. It might turn Superior Smax-equivalent stats into a bit more than Emax-equivalent. What do others think about this? Find-forge-salvage-repeat might be the strategy to turn to now that lower-level equipment can only be used for a moderate amount of time before turning to trash.

Thanks for the idea! I didn't think about forging. That's another area I need to explore. Do you think even level 200 equipments can be good enough for forging? Because... they are the best I have right now. :/
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post May 25 2015, 10:03
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QUOTE(orgolove @ May 25 2015, 15:54) *

Thanks for the idea! I didn't think about forging. That's another area I need to explore. Do you think even level 200 equipments can be good enough for forging? Because... they are the best I have right now. :/

link please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 10:24
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for 1H, do i need imperil and weaken?

i have so much AP that i do not know what to assign them to.

currently for deprec, i only have silence. as for supportive, i have everything except AF.

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post May 25 2015, 10:34
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ive found rough way to suggests exp/lvl.

First. Price for stat. Not very accurate with only 10 samples (daily reduction limit), but should be more or less ok.
After that I have 408 stat before 365lvl. Its near 1,1178.
So, if im right than 399-->400 lvl is near 6,72 billions. 449-->500 is 39,6 billions and 499-->500 is 240.

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post May 25 2015, 10:34
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 25 2015, 08:24) *

for 1H, do i need imperil and weaken?

i have so much AP that i do not know what to assign them to.

currently for deprec, i only have silence. as for supportive, i have everything except AF.
If you have a rapier, you don't need any depreciating at all. Silence was only useful for me when I was lower level and had little damage or toughness, and had to Silence Tsukiko and other Sprites/Celestials whose bars filled before I could kill them.

If you don't have a rapier, you might use Imperil (fully AP upgraded), but only on bosses/schoolgirls at the end of arenas. Or you might just do it without Imperil anyway, since if you have enough damage it might not be worth the concentration. (SG arenas without a rapier is a bad idea, even if you have Imperil)

All you really have to do with 1h is cast all buffs, turn spirit stance on, and mousemelee for the next 200 or so turns until you have to recast buffs... repeat. Nothing special at all needed. It's the perfect style for in combination with watching anime/etc in another window.
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post May 25 2015, 11:14
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It's been too long.

Apparently, the moment I quit HV for almost six months, Trollboro decided to FU it all BAR. I think I'll be poking him with a pokestick shortly. And he most definitely won't enjoy it.

So would anyone please be so kind to enlighten me via some short-course update? Namely, I'd like to know what happened to all those fancy potions I had to use?
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post May 25 2015, 11:18
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Patch thread:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=178980

Many changes.
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post May 25 2015, 12:21
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which style is faster to finish arena/IW ?

DW/1H ?
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post May 25 2015, 12:26
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 25 2015, 12:18) *

So old potions have no effect anymore?
Nice. Out-flippin'-right-nice.
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post May 25 2015, 12:28
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Mage. Its usually in 1.5-3times faster and depends on difficulty, but its also more highlvl style for 400+ players. Than probably 1h. As i know dw can clear sg arenas a bit faster than 1h, but its not very good style atm.
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post May 25 2015, 12:33
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 25 2015, 17:28) *

Mage. Its usually in 1.5-3times faster and depends on difficulty, but its also more highlvl style for 400+ players. Than probably 1h. As i know dw can clear sg arenas a bit faster than 1h, but its not very good style atm.


mage so pricey la :/

no credits. I prefer to sell mage's gear for creds rather than playing mage.

thats why the question is DW/1H

DW = bonus offhand
1H = bonus endless spirit stance

both have different bonus, but, which bonus make faster finish time...
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post May 25 2015, 12:37
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thats why the question is DW/1H

DW = bonus offhand
1H = bonus endless spirit stance

both have different bonus, but, which bonus make faster finish time...
DW has somewhat higher single target damage than 1h, but it has much worse defense due to lack of block. 1h also, in addition to much higher defense, has counter-attack stuns, and endless spirit stance, as you know. So if you don't want to have to Cure once or twice every round, best to play 1h. Damage output is lower, but defense means that clear times are faster, since Cure is very rare.

At least in this patch. In 0.83 things may change.
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post May 25 2015, 12:49
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Dont underestimate power of counters. Most of the time target wont have 3pa stacks even on pf diff, so average damage is something like this one.

16 3 Void Strike hits Kirisame Marisa for 6273 void damage.
16 2 Cold Strike hits Kirisame Marisa for 2313 cold damage.
16 1 You hit Kirisame Marisa for 14659 void damage.

And here is my counter:
2 8 You counter Lance003 for 7882 points of void damage.
And its up to 3times per turn. It means if i face many mobs than first turns i always do higher damage with my counters than my direct attacks. After that usually all got stun, but even with it its still very big part of overall. Also 1h has not only constant stance, but also 15% damage increase from passive.
So if we compare than dw d something like 1,45 multiplier and 1h has 2,3. Of course dw has offhand strike, higher adb and additional elementals, but i wanna say overall difference in damage isnt huge. Specially if its not only 1 target like sg.
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post May 25 2015, 12:55
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ May 25 2015, 16:24) *

for 1H, do i need imperil and weaken?

i have so much AP that i do not know what to assign them to.

currently for deprec, i only have silence. as for supportive, i have everything except AF.


imperil is good for PFU ED and DwD 113+ when you will face 3 SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm still spams them due to how hard to maintain PAx3 with 3 SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(nec1986 @ May 25 2015, 18:28) *

Mage. Its usually in 1.5-3times faster and depends on difficulty, but its also more highlvl style for 400+ players. Than probably 1h. As i know dw can clear sg arenas a bit faster than 1h, but its not very good style atm.


nope , DW maybe faster if hit 1 SG with FB but in PFU ED or DwD , 1H still faster , nec (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you need to realize that FB hit multiple target will power down it damage ~ I know this since I'm former heavy DW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

+ building OC is slower than 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post May 25 2015, 13:00
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Even so. Dw d be much better if was good possibility to get charges.

Looks like arena lvl now has significant difference in loot. I mean i did all 25-65 rounds and got nothing special. In higher range i got 3 magnificent. Or just luck?
Actually, already 5.

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post May 25 2015, 14:03
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I just earned the Dovakiin title. Does it do more than just give me a new skill? I've been noticing that battles are suddenly easier since I got it, even without using that skill. It does not seem to affect stats, or at least it doesn't show it.

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post May 25 2015, 14:10
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I just earned the Dovakiin title. Does it do more than just give me a new skill? I've been noticing that battles are suddenly easier since I got it, even without using that skill. It does not seem to affect stats, or at least it doesn't show it.

nah , dohvakiin only give you FRD skill (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

unless tenb doing some ninja adjustment for title bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



first time I can clearing PFU DwD below 1 hour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
~ 56 mins ~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but drop still exq grade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 14:22
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2h builds are not even being considered these days?
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