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post Jun 15 2011, 08:39
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have a question for melee master please help

got this recent drop from arena

Fine Tower Shield of the Barrier

base 29.94

is this good shield or just useless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ( i don't know about melee equipment )

if doesi am consider set this shield into my project (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 08:44
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It's good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 08:46
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QUOTE(teeeen @ Jun 15 2011, 00:39) *

have a question for a Tower Shield

got this recent drop from arena

Fine Tower Shield of the Barrier

base 29.94

is this good shield or just useless

if doesi am consider set this shield into my project


i would keep it. it's not too bad. most shields that're 30+ seem to be good candidates for those that go 1H/shield

@foolboy, yeah arena's are more important than IW just cause i need the credits at the moment. but a lot of the lower arenas are better off as healing via normal/cake difficulty. i find itemworlds faster than those damn miniboss rounds in the latter arenas (3+). haven't run into many annoying customs yet other than a few pesky giants (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@jack, assimilator is *not* worth it. credits are better spent elsewhere.
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post Jun 15 2011, 08:58
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could you tell me the melee player criterion about all kinds of shield

and fair price

you just think it worth how many in credits ?

please tell me i have nothing criterion to make classification

tiny mage >_<
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post Jun 15 2011, 17:42
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My personal yardstick about shields is to look for high Block characteristic, then everything else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyway, there's an extended analysis of equipment in the Wiki.

About value, I'm not an expert, but I read that usually around a half of Bazaar price for an equivalent item is fair, but probably the best thing would be to have a look in the WTS (Want to Sell) subsection in the forum and compare the prices of Superior tower shields of similar level ^^
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post Jun 15 2011, 18:23
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" a half of Bazaar price for an equivalent item is fair "

i am agree with you 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) other 50% is confuse

because 99% people not sell things with half of Bazaar price

in other words by you criterion 99% trade in this game is unfair

we shall keep talk this idea

if a lot of player agree with you and start sell things by half of bazaar price

we shall have a price revolution

and i am 100% support this idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 19:26
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QUOTE(teeeen @ Jun 15 2011, 16:23) *

" a half of Bazaar price for an equivalent item is fair "

i am agree with you 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) other 50% is confuse

because 99% people not sell things with half of Bazaar price

in other words by you criterion 99% trade in this game is unfair

we shall keep talk this idea

if a lot of player agree with you and start sell things by half of bazaar price

we shall have a price revolution

and i am 100% support this idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I wrote "fair", I actually meant "good", that's to say "convenient". Of course, if the Bazaar price is 100, anything from 99 down will be "fair". But actually, in most shops in the WTS I found prices even LOWER than half the Bazaar price (I'm talking about shops; auctions tend to start even lower, but of course coul just skyrocket if the item is strongly desired by more than one person ^^). Just try and see the Bazaar price for a Superior shield of level 100+, and tell me ^^

Then again, everybody is free to set any price he wants. In the worst case, he won't find buyers, but usually people aren't great penny pinchers when it comes to fictional money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 19:48
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Quick question: In my battle inventory, what does turning on "auto" do for an item/slot? It doesn't seem to automatically use a health potion if my health is low.
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post Jun 15 2011, 19:57
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QUOTE(handabanana @ Jun 15 2011, 18:48) *

Quick question: In my battle inventory, what does turning on "auto" do for an item/slot? It doesn't seem to automatically use a health potion if my health is low.
Refills your slot after you finish a battle. (Avoiding going to the item inventory refilling the items manually)

Edit:
In case of infusions/scrolls slots are different, they're refilled right after been spent

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post Jun 15 2011, 20:25
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@streetfelineblue

i agree with you and i won't be set it on a Auction bid

i add it in mint project list to help other player (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 21:27
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Um... Hello.
I have no idea about whats happening in this game at all, that is. I poked some buttons and clicked some links, something like that. I mean~ I am Completely and Utterly Noobish.
I am trying to play as a 2h-user but I have no idea about how equipment actually works. I tried to get the "highest ilvl" possible but it seems that I went completely wrong somewhere...
So um... All that was just for you to understand that I tend to fail at stats, at abilities, at auras, at gear and everything else. Just please dont just "LOL SHE'S HORRIBLE LOL" at me, please =\
Oh and yes, I DO realize that I am just VERY low level but I thought its better to try to fix myself early before my character will go completely haywire >_>
These are my stats/abilities/etc:
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This is my current set, I used the most powerful weapon I could obtain and few "Power armor" items that boost my damage:
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I also bought some items for higher defense and the weapon to clear item worlds of my "main" set:
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Head 2: Attached Image
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The problem is that right now I feel a lot of problems during the grindfest. I can barely farm up to 4-5k exp per run using all available manapots and spamming cure when necessary. Difficulty suddenly changed after lvl30 or so.
I am definitely doing something wrong. Please advise >_<

P.S. Yes, I CANNOT INTO links. I just have no idea how you guys are doing them >___<


P.P.S. Just as I re-read my own post I suddenly realized one idea... This "item level" does not mean the weapon is actually better for me at my level, right? Means I wasted all my money for gear I will not be able to use for ages?
Oh My ~~~~~ng God.
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post Jun 15 2011, 21:49
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i'm no expert, but i would say :
don't max all the exp-tanks in your abilities. you gain exp too fast, which means you can't catch up with your profiencies.

i'm not doing grindfest, i personally prefer a high level crude item. go in on normal and level there for 100rounds. gives me about 5-6k exp, without much curing/pots. in fact none at all + i get loot drop.

get your support and deprecating profiencies up, it will be usefull later on. support for haste/shadow veil, and deprecating for weak/bewilder/silence etc.

you should balance your stats, right now you have almost as much STR as me, and i'm nearly lvl60 ^^

hope this could help a bit, but i'm sure some of the grandmasters will disagree with me
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post Jun 15 2011, 21:56
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QUOTE(SneakyGray @ Jun 15 2011, 22:49) *

i'm no expert, but i would say :
don't max all the exp-tanks in your abilities. you gain exp too fast, which means you can't catch up with your profiencies.

i'm not doing grindfest, i personally prefer a high level crude item. go in on normal and level there for 100rounds. gives me about 5-6k exp, without much curing/pots. in fact none at all + i get loot drop.

get your support and deprecating profiencies up, it will be usefull later on. support for haste/shadow veil, and deprecating for weak/bewilder/silence etc.

you should balance your stats, right now you have almost as much STR as me, and i'm nearly lvl60 ^^

hope this could help a bit, but i'm sure some of the grandmasters will disagree with me

Thank you, but now I've got even more questions. Why do I need to balance stats? Int and Wis are useless for me, no? Also assuming the gear I've bought out of my foolishness it seems that I REALLY need to level up as much as I can... And what is the point of these "proficiencies"?
Meh, it really seems that I messed up. Badly. A lot. Meh.

Oh and I dont know how to level up support/deprecation. I barely can hold my mana for cure alone and you're telling me to spam shields/etc? Ohgawd >_<

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post Jun 15 2011, 22:00
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Experience > Proficiencies. The greater the difference between your proficiency/max possible, the quicker you'll get proficiency later on.

For example. Say it'll take you 24 hours of play to get 20 proficiency at your level.

It'll probably only take 4 hours of play to get that same 20 proficiency 10 levels later. But ability points should be invested into something more useful. mana tank/spirit tank or the like

e: i'll post more later. lunch beckons

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post Jun 15 2011, 22:03
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Balancing stats at low level has a few advantages, since every stat gives a few bonuses at certain points. for example every 25 INT or WIS you reduce your Intereference by 1%. Every 30 DEX you gain 1% crit chance and so on.
Also, when you reset your abilities spend some on MP-tank, you will get a lot mor mana for cure/shield.
The easiest way to train prof. is to go in to the arena, kill everything but one sole monster, spam the rest of your mana, kill the monster, repeat at next challenge.
Deprecating is easy with any kind of staff, cast weak on them all the time, often Coalceled mana will proc which halves the cost of the next spell you use on that monster.

It doesn't matter that your gear is much higher than your level, my sword is lvl 160 and still kicks ass at my level. But the others are much more knowledgable at gear
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post Jun 15 2011, 22:03
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 15 2011, 23:00) *

Experience > Proficiencies. The greater the difference between your proficiency/max possible, the quicker you'll get proficiency later on.

For example. Say it'll take you 24 hours of play to get 20 proficiency at your level.

It'll probably only take 4 hours of play to get that same 20 proficiency 10 levels later. But ability points should be invested into something more useful. mana tank/spirit tank or the like

e: i'll post more later. lunch beckons


So EXP abilities are not worth picking? I'll think about it. Also I have no idea what is Spirit used for since I never used any Spirit attacks. What is the point for actually poking that button?
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post Jun 15 2011, 22:08
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It's a powerfull attack, the Spirit points are multiplied at the end of the dmg roll. I don't know the exact formula, but you can imagine it like that :

you normal damage roll * Spirit Points = Soul damage.

it's probably a lot more complicated that that, haha ^^'
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post Jun 15 2011, 22:10
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QUOTE(SneakyGray @ Jun 15 2011, 23:08) *

It's a powerfull attack, the Spirit points are multiplied at the end of the dmg roll. I don't know the exact formula, but you can imagine it like that :

you normal damage roll * Spirit Points = Soul damage.

it's probably a lot more complicated that that, haha ^^'


But where can I use it? Is there any reason to do so, actually? Mobs die from 2-3 well-laid hits so there is no reason to use it at all, right?
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post Jun 15 2011, 22:12
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yes for now, but wait until you encouter a manbearpig, a mithra, Dalek or White Bunneh. Then you will want all the damage you can dish out, no matter how.
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post Jun 15 2011, 22:25
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I've fought Mithra once. Wasnt something special, well, at my level. I poked that Spirit button and ate the mana pot to heal through. I guess things will be much harder soon?
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