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post Jun 14 2011, 17:14
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jun 14 2011, 11:03) *

I can't answer all your questions but I can say that T&T on normal or hard should be a cakewalk. Just make sure to kill yggdrasil so she doesn't heal the others.

Don't give up the early arenas, they're the easiest way to get tokens. Just do them after your stamina has hit 'good' instead of 'great' so you don't waste the exp bonus.

I think he gave up IW.
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post Jun 14 2011, 17:31
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jun 14 2011, 16:03) *

I can't answer all your questions but I can say that T&T on normal or hard should be a cakewalk. Just make sure to kill yggdrasil so she doesn't heal the others.

Don't give up the early arenas, they're the easiest way to get tokens. Just do them after your stamina has hit 'good' instead of 'great' so you don't waste the exp bonus.


Good point on the lower arenas, I can equip a scythe+normal and everything will die quickly.

If the Trio+Tree are in mob of 4 together then I should be able to just domino stun them all till dead. Anyway I'm power leveling to 200 only 4mill exp to go, then I can fight Trio arena and perhaps hand in 800+ trophies I've hoarded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 14 2011, 17:39
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QUOTE(Tsunade_lover @ Jun 14 2011, 11:31) *

Good point on the lower arenas, I can equip a scythe+normal and everything will die quickly.

If the Trio+Tree are in mob of 4 together then I should be able to just domino stun them all till dead. Anyway I'm power leveling to 200 only 4mill exp to go, then I can fight Trio arena and perhaps hand in 800+ trophies I've hoarded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Have a tiny bit of caution against them. On normal/hard they should be very easy, but if they ever get out of the stunlock they'll have full mp and then blast the fuck out of you (or heal, in yggdrasil's case).

For trophies you should wait till 205, otherwise your shrine returns will be mostly below level 200 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 14 2011, 11:14) *

I think he gave up IW.

I meant he should do the higher arenas first so he gets the EXP bonus for those. Or did I misunderstand your response?

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post Jun 14 2011, 18:00
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QUOTE(Tsunade_lover @ Jun 14 2011, 16:31) *

If the Trio+Tree are in mob of 4 together then I should be able to just domino stun them all till dead. Anyway I'm power leveling to 200 only 4mill exp to go, then I can fight Trio arena and perhaps hand in 800+ trophies I've hoarded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Like DemonEyesBob said piece of cake, more with EW gear.


QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jun 14 2011, 16:39) *

Have a tiny bit of caution against them. On normal/hard they should be very easy, but if they ever get out of the stunlock they'll have full mp and then blast the fuck out of you (or heal, in yggdrasil's case).
Spark, and silence the tree if that's necessary, the good thing about this is you can always use a godly potion.
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post Jun 14 2011, 18:02
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I've stopped playing IWs for quite sometime now since I get bored just finishing my daily arenas.

Don't give up the early arenas,
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I thought you were responding to Tsunade_lover's statement directly. Sorry for the trouble.
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post Jun 14 2011, 19:18
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I'm an uber cheapass so I use the first couple of arenas as "healing" in place of healing tokens (I'm running out of tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif))
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post Jun 14 2011, 19:36
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 14 2011, 17:00) *

Like DemonEyesBob said piece of cake, more with EW gear.
Spark, and silence the tree if that's necessary, the good thing about this is you can always use a godly potion.


Thanks all, was really really really easy on normal, didn't have to drink anything, they don't have much HP so they died quickly compared to Legendaries on the same difficulty. I didn't like the descriptions of the friendly procs though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 14 2011, 20:39
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I'm an uber cheapass so I use the first couple of arenas as "healing" in place of healing tokens (I'm running out of tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif))

You must play a lot. I wish I can sell mine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 14 2011, 22:11
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 14 2011, 07:26) *

Your sword is very bad ass. You vampire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Could you post a direct link to your weapon, please?

Some people turn mage around 80, others turn mage around 100. I know most of the top level players are mages. At the end, it is really up to you.

Here you go: Fine Longsword of the Vampire

I guess I'll tough it out as melee until 80-100, then. It's not too bad. I'm just jealous of mages being able to clear rounds in 1-3 turns. Once I get to 30+ levels into GF/IW, I'm taking at least 12-24 turns to finish a round. It really does feel like a grindfest... lol

While I'm at it, here's another question: What is the consequence of death other than being kicked out of whatever match you are in and having 0hp? Do I lose C or experience at all? (I've never bothered to check the few times I've died.)
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post Jun 14 2011, 22:20
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QUOTE(handabanana @ Jun 14 2011, 22:11) *

Here you go: Fine Longsword of the Vampire

I guess I'll tough it out as melee until 80-100, then. It's not too bad. I'm just jealous of mages being able to clear rounds in 1-3 turns. Once I get to 30+ levels into GF/IW, I'm taking at least 12-24 turns to finish a round. It really does feel like a grindfest... lol

While I'm at it, here's another question: What is the consequence of death other than being kicked out of whatever match you are in and having 0hp? Do I lose C or experience at all? (I've never bothered to check the few times I've died.)

nothing , but im always runaway when have low hP
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post Jun 14 2011, 22:24
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QUOTE(handabanana @ Jun 14 2011, 16:11) *

Here you go: Fine Longsword of the Vampire

I guess I'll tough it out as melee until 80-100, then. It's not too bad. I'm just jealous of mages being able to clear rounds in 1-3 turns. Once I get to 30+ levels into GF/IW, I'm taking at least 12-24 turns to finish a round. It really does feel like a grindfest... lol

While I'm at it, here's another question: What is the consequence of death other than being kicked out of whatever match you are in and having 0hp? Do I lose C or experience at all? (I've never bothered to check the few times I've died.)

very tasty longsword. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You do not lose any experience or credits if you are defeated.
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post Jun 14 2011, 22:47
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 14 2011, 12:39) *

You must play a lot. I wish I can sell mine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Mmmm... 20 stamina a day roughly? I do all my arena clears and 11 item worlds
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post Jun 15 2011, 00:47
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I have a question.

What kind of debuffs don't stack with each other? For example like Bewilder and Blind don't go together (iirc). Just reset abilities and not sure which one to put and not put points ito.

Ty

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post Jun 15 2011, 01:09
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 14 2011, 16:47) *

Mmmm... 20 stamina a day roughly? I do all my arena clears and 11 item worlds

11IW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Mine is humble 0. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 15 2011, 01:47
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 14 2011, 17:09) *

11IW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Mine is humble 0. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


It's the only way to go if you want to grind levels quickly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I'd rather do a few rounds of itemworld than do 1 round against a boss. So much more exp especially with all the higher PL monsters coming in (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

eushully. this might help
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Deprecating_Magic

There are some special rules regarding which Deprecating spells can be simultaneously in effect on a single monster. The Tactical Pane of the Magic menu also shows which spells cannot be simultaneously cast by dividing the spells into columns.

* A monster cannot be simultaneously affected by more than one of: Slow, Sleep, and Confuse. Successfully casting any one of these on a target will dispel any of the others on that target.
* Because of this rule for Silence, Blind, Bewilder, and Weaken, the only useful combinations are: Weaken + Blind, Weaken + Bewilder, or Silence alone.
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post Jun 15 2011, 02:13
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Thanks a lot.
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post Jun 15 2011, 03:35
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Hi. I'm a 2h, heavy armor warrior type, but my burden/interference are just huge as you can see on the pictures below. I'm thinking of use niten, so i'm using a pair of shortsword of vampire and rapier of illithid to get 2w proficience. But my burden/interference is higher with niten (with the katana and wakisashi that I have now) then with 2h.

So I was thinking on going to light armor, but I don't know if the loss of the power heavy armor and the mitigation they provide will be compesated by the reduce of burden/interference.

Here you have some prints of my stats:
[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img716.imageshack.us] http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6130/atributesproficiency.th.jpg)

[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img171.imageshack.us] http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1985/equipments.th.jpg)

[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img819.imageshack.us] http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/364/abilities.th.jpg)

My main equips:
Superior Scythe of Slaughter
Average Power Helmet of Protection
Average Plate Cuirass of Protection
Average Power Gauntlets of Warding
Average Plate Greaves of Protection
Fair Shield Sabatons of Warding

Secondary weapons:
Superior Shortsword of the Vampire
Superior Rapier of the Illithid

I know that they are not even the good ones, but it's what I've gotten. The only equip I really like is my superior scythe that dropped on the shrine. =)

I'd really apreciate some advice on anything (I know that I need better equips, but I want to decide if i'll go light or if I'll stay on heavy before invest credits on it), especially if it's worth to use niten or just stay on 2h.

And I'd like to know if the assimilator training is worth to take. It seems nice, but 50k is way TOO expensive.

Thanks a lot. And sorry for any english mistakes.

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post Jun 15 2011, 06:59
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 14 2011, 19:47) *

It's the only way to go if you want to grind levels quickly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I'd rather do a few rounds of itemworld than do 1 round against a boss. So much more exp especially with all the higher PL monsters coming in (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

eushully. this might help
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Deprecating_Magic

There are some special rules regarding which Deprecating spells can be simultaneously in effect on a single monster. The Tactical Pane of the Magic menu also shows which spells cannot be simultaneously cast by dividing the spells into columns.

* A monster cannot be simultaneously affected by more than one of: Slow, Sleep, and Confuse. Successfully casting any one of these on a target will dispel any of the others on that target.
* Because of this rule for Silence, Blind, Bewilder, and Weaken, the only useful combinations are: Weaken + Blind, Weaken + Bewilder, or Silence alone.

I would love to do what you are doing, but I just do not have the time and energy to grind that many rounds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Even though I can only go 30+ rounds on a superior equipment.
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post Jun 15 2011, 07:24
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jun 14 2011, 21:35) *

Hi. I'm a 2h, heavy armor warrior type, but my burden/interference are just huge as you can see on the pictures below. I'm thinking of use niten, so i'm using a pair of shortsword of vampire and rapier of illithid to get 2w proficience. But my burden/interference is higher with niten (with the katana and wakisashi that I have now) then with 2h.

So I was thinking on going to light armor, but I don't know if the loss of the power heavy armor and the mitigation they provide will be compesated by the reduce of burden/interference.

Here you have some prints of my stats:
[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img716.imageshack.us] http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6130/atributesproficiency.th.jpg)

[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img171.imageshack.us] http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1985/equipments.th.jpg)

[imageshack.us] (IMG:[img819.imageshack.us] http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/364/abilities.th.jpg)

My main equips:
Superior Scythe of Slaughter
Average Power Helmet of Protection
Average Plate Cuirass of Protection
Average Power Gauntlets of Warding
Average Plate Greaves of Protection
Fair Shield Sabatons of Warding

Secondary weapons:
Superior Shortsword of the Vampire
Superior Rapier of the Illithid

I know that they are not even the good ones, but it's what I've gotten. The only equip I really like is my superior scythe that dropped on the shrine. =)

I'd really apreciate some advice on anything (I know that I need better equips, but I want to decide if i'll go light or if I'll stay on heavy before invest credits on it), especially if it's worth to use niten or just stay on 2h.

And I'd like to know if the assimilator training is worth to take. It seems nice, but 50k is way TOO expensive.

Thanks a lot. And sorry for any english mistakes.

assimilator is not necessary until much later.
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post Jun 15 2011, 07:45
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jun 15 2011, 08:35) *

I'd really apreciate some advice on anything (I know that I need better equips...)


There's nothing to advise, really, except for the "get better gear" ...

For the Light VS Heavy question: Heavy work best with 1H fighting style. It still work somewhat with other style, but I find Light to be better; while Heavy do have good mit, it drains your mana very fast if you're not using 1H+shield. However, It is much easier to find a usable Heavy pieces while Light is a lot more difficult.
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