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post May 9 2015, 12:20
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 9 2015, 18:02) *

I was under the impression that buff/debuff times are unaffected by the affected target's action speed, and only count down a turn based on the game's internal time mechanism, which is not directly observable (unfortunately). For instance, you Regen yourself. With high action speed (I'll make up the number 0.6) you'll only see Regen restore health, and the buff counter count down by one, every 1 / 0.6 = 1.67 turns. Or, with monsters, say you counter-attack stun one of them. The stun counter will decrease at the same rate, every time the internal action time passes a whole number. The player's action speed is fast, so often you'll see a turn go by when stun counter does not decrease. Monsters have very quick action speed in PFUDOR, sometimes hitting you twice each turn (action speed 0.5?? another completely made up number) but their buff/debuff counters only count down after the game's internal clock crosses 1.0 or 2.0 or 3.0, etc.

At least, this was how I was thinking it worked.



Hmm, I'm really not sure.



Question for the experts: I'm considering bidding for an item - Is Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Fenrir significantly better than my Magnificent Charged Phase Gloves of Fenrir? The important stats of EDB and Evade are almost the same, and the prefix'd benefit is kinda worse than mine. Plus the pain of doing IW for juggernaut...
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post May 9 2015, 12:32
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Hello everyone!
I'd like to try some 2h in normal to gain prof so..
What kind of weapon is better to start with 2h?
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post May 9 2015, 12:53
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 10:15) *
More popularity = More demand = More items in the market. As simple as that.
There's a limited number of decent Mag+ gear of each element, which everyone will try to sell, regardless of element. Players can't magically force gear of a certain element to drop, of course, nor would someone bazaar or salvage a well rolled Mag+ - regardless of element. So the supply for high-end gear is quite similar for each element. More demand does not result in more supply being offered if everything that good is kept and sold anyway.
QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 10:15) *
It does not work like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
It sure seems to.

For instance, I just did the following:

IWBTH, with Haste
turn 4, use imperil (32 turns duration, focus until duration is up)
turn 53, expires

IWBTH, without Haste:
turn 3, use imperil.
turn 36, expires

PF, without Haste:
turn 4: use
turn 37, expires

PF, with Haste
turn 4: use
turn 53, expires

These results match up perfectly with everything I said. How do you think it works differently?
QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ May 9 2015, 10:32) *
I'd like to try some 2h in normal to gain prof so..
What kind of weapon is better to start with 2h?
Prof gain is pretty useless unless you're actually going to play the style (or Niten), neither of which are good in this patch...

If you just want proficiency and are fine playing with next to no benefits (since you say you're OK with Normal), I would use a non-Estoc with as low weapon damage as you can find, and mousemelee through a <175 PXP IW on IWBTH, with no damage abilities, while watching a show or movie. Repeat 40 times and you'll have proficiency near your level.

If you want to clear quickly, longsword has the highest weapon damage, so it could work if you truly just want to play on Normal. On high difficulty, probably estoc so you can hopefully kill monsters before they use SP attack.
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post May 9 2015, 13:13
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 16:51) *

I see. Top mages using Wind...no wonder that the price of Freyr pieces are so windy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
So when you reach Lv.400, you're gonna change to Mage?
Old Power? May I see the links please? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


not really , first I need to get more money cause mage is expensive + I'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


helmet

armor

gauntlets

leggings

boots


@1 ~ 2,5M range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


just after I'm complete my leg set , tenb make all power armor have crit damage + (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 14:06
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 9 2015, 01:55) *

Mage has very poor defense, so it's much more of an issue than for other classes.

alright, but i mean - what's the average evade of a high-level mage (or at least, high enough to worry about dovahkiin title)? is it 1.5 points really that important?

QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 09:05) *

There are 3 possibilities of what may happen:
1. Overwhelming Strike becomes 1x stack at max.
2. Now DW generates OC from Parry, and 1H generates OC from only Block.
3. "Block" now only block Physical Attacks.

1. that would be one serious nerf. 1H will still remain a bit playable i guess, but it would be seriously nerfing the last remnants of melee style
2. one serious buff for DW, so not happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
3. you're basically killing 1H. what would be the point in going with a build that can repel ~75% of physical attacks and no magical ones? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 09:05) *

I don't see how 2H can gain a balanced benefit from OC generation. From Domino Strike? That'd be too OP.

1 OC for every successful domino hit wouldn't be too OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 09:05) *

What's the benefit of PFUDOR IW? IWBTH is way faster to accomplish the goal.

and still quite annoying. plus, the increasing in EXP/credits is almost negligible. personally i think PF-IW is only masochism/bragging rights.

QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 09:05) *

P.S. - Nowadays I play the SG Arenas in Normal difficulty only. Mainly for Trophies and Tokens, but also because in higher difficulty, the clear time increases exponentially.

that's the way.

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 10:28) *

~ I'm poor to buy RA now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 13:13) *

I'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

my condolences, but you know, it's not needed to say it every post. you're saying you're poor even more times than i'm saying i'm a pervert (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ May 9 2015, 10:51) *

I see. Top mages using Wind...no wonder that the price of Freyr pieces are so windy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

dani as well, if you're interested. and also chazer, afaik

QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ May 9 2015, 12:32) *

I'd like to try some 2h in normal to gain prof so..
What kind of weapon is better to start with 2h?

i suggest you mace on low difficulty (maybe till hell).
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post May 9 2015, 14:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 9 2015, 20:06) *

alright, but i mean - what's the average evade of a high-level mage (or at least, high enough to worry about dovahkiin title)? is it 1.5 points really that important?


Well, nec1986 said that a couple points of block made a big difference to his GF clearance.
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post May 9 2015, 15:29
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 9 2015, 19:06) *

alright, but i mean - what's the average evade of a high-level mage (or at least, high enough to worry about dovahkiin title)? is it 1.5 points really that important?
1. that would be one serious nerf. 1H will still remain a bit playable i guess, but it would be seriously nerfing the last remnants of melee style
2. one serious buff for DW, so not happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
3. you're basically killing 1H. what would be the point in going with a build that can repel ~75% of physical attacks and no magical ones? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
1 OC for every successful domino hit wouldn't be too OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
and still quite annoying. plus, the increasing in EXP/credits is almost negligible. personally i think PF-IW is only masochism/bragging rights.
that's the way.
my condolences, but you know, it's not needed to say it every post. you're saying you're poor even more times than i'm saying i'm a pervert (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
dani as well, if you're interested. and also chazer, afaik
i suggest you mace on low difficulty (maybe till hell).


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

so I cann't say poor anymore now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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btw , I need some personal opinion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

better just salvaged all my power gear above or just buy mats for upgrading my slaughter set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I maybe need 5M+ just for forged first 5 lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 15:33
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 21:29) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

so I cann't say poor anymore now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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btw , I need some personal opinion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

better just salvaged all my power gear above or just buy mats for upgrading my slaughter set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I maybe need 5M+ just for forged first 5 lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Salvage them.
Power of protection without crit damage is not something people will buy in auction. Or just 50k each. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

P.S.: I'm backed to inactive now. Only check the forum from now on. And sometimes bid in auctions.

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post May 9 2015, 15:36
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 9 2015, 20:33) *

Salvage them.
Power of protection without crit damage is not something people will buy in auction. Or just 50k each. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

P.S.: I'm backed to inactive now. Only check the forum from now on. And sometimes bid in auctions.



I have alot of mats in that power set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

edit , I need around 10M+ for upgrade just first 5 lvl of slaughter set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post May 9 2015, 15:37
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 9 2015, 15:33) *

Salvage them.
Power of protection without crit damage is not something people will buy in auction. Or just 50k each. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

P.S.: I'm backed to inactive now. Only check the forum from now on. And sometimes bid in auctions.

yup. their EIDs are not that interesting as well and they don't even have AGI

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I have alot of mats in that power set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

edit , I need around 10M+ for upgrade just first 5 lvl of slaughter set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

salvaging you'd retrieve something like 155 actuators.
as for bindings, i don't know when you upgraded them, but now you can retrieve only 0.9(n-5), so everything under lv5 is lost. as to forge first five levels, you only need 1.2M or so - actuators only; catalysts and LG/MG excluded

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post May 9 2015, 15:42
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What I am thinking is to get more phase or prof shoes with charged so then I can take the casting speed off my staff and replace it will archmage.
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post May 9 2015, 15:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 9 2015, 20:37) *

yup. their EIDs are not that interesting as well and they don't even have AGI
salvaging you'd retrieve something like 155 actuators.
as for bindings, i don't know when you upgraded them, but now you can retrieve only 0.9(n-5), so everything under lv5 is lost. as to forge first five levels, you only need 1.2M or so - actuators only; catalysts and LG/MG excluded

I need 40 actuators in 1 gear , so total need 200 actuator (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

that alone already 10M+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



maybe I will salvaged them even though I have budget to upgrade them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 15:57
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Not huge, but noticeable definitely. Defense in general. But i think its mostly only for 1h or close style.

What i mean. With.... something like 67% phys mitg i could do only 650 rounds with all 15 pots. With 77% i easy did all 1000 (pots remain) and last 350 rounds could be even harder than first 650. With some block forge i got last result only 2 mp pots and 0 in first 650. You can see its very big difference between zero and all pots. I think its because income-outcome way.

So. Small example. If i get 2400 mana from gems in 100 rounds and my clear time is 1800 turns, than i have 1,33 additional mana each turn. In ideal situation with 1,4 regeneration i have 2,73 restoration. But price for regen+spirit shield+haste+protection is already probably near 3,3. It means limited amount of mp (15-16k?) gonna end in 26k turns. Full clear is a bit faster, but its in ideal situation and without any cure. If i gonna add 100 cures than i ll end in 14k turns. The reason why i spend only 2 mp pots is good defense. I can keep long time without spirit shield and have full bars without any pot use. I also use less cures because lower incoming damage and additional blocks. Its very sensitive stuff.

But if we speak about mages than we have a bit different situation. Mage has low price, huge outcome and solid income with tapping. Its probably not so vital, because additional cures wont affect much.
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post May 9 2015, 16:16
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 15:55) *

I need 40 actuators in 1 gear , so total need 200 actuator (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

that alone already 10M+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

why 40 actuators? the first 10 upgrades give you a good result, the second 10 still decent, the rest is not worth the gamble imo, especially if you have low funds and with a patch at the doors. and furthermore, you're speaking about slaughters. they already have double ADB if compared to a non-slaughter to begin with
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post May 9 2015, 16:22
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Hi,
I have 13 Precursor Artifacts and several trophies. Is there any reason to save them, or should I just shrine them now?
Also for the trophies, is it better to use them for a certain type of equipment?
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post May 9 2015, 16:23
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why 40 actuators? the first 10 upgrades give you a good result, the second 10 still decent, the rest is not worth the gamble imo, especially if you have low funds and with a patch at the doors. and furthermore, you're speaking about slaughters. they already have double ADB if compared to a non-slaughter to begin with

I need to upgrade adb , crit chance , hit , pmi , mmi , 3 PAB to lvl 5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

each need 5 RAs so that why 40 actuators need for 1 gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 9 2015, 16:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 07:23) *

I need to upgrade adb , crit chance , hit , pmi , mmi , 3 PAB to lvl 5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

each need 5 RAs so that why 40 actuators need for 1 gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1 actuator for all stats per level. Check the wiki.
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post May 9 2015, 16:44
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 9 2015, 22:23) *

I need to upgrade adb , crit chance , hit , pmi , mmi , 3 PAB to lvl 5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

each need 5 RAs so that why 40 actuators need for 1 gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think you afk'd for too long (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 9 2015, 16:59
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I'm really think that I was inactived too long (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

so how much I need to first five upgrade for 5 gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


btw , how to add extension from chrome store into old iron version (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

HV get blocked by my goverment , so I need some extension to reach HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

cannot use google DNS

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post May 9 2015, 17:33
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ May 9 2015, 16:22) *

I have 13 Precursor Artifacts and several trophies. Is there any reason to save them, or should I just shrine them now?
Also for the trophies, is it better to use them for a certain type of equipment?

trophies are better sold at wtb to players that may take advantage of them - dani, stony, jenga...
artifacts, yoour choice. i can buy them for 10k each, if you want.

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so how much I need to first five upgrade for 5 gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

HV get blocked by my goverment , so I need some extension to reach HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

cannot use google DNS

25 actuators, so less or more 1M.
as for your problem, try [www.opendns.com] opendns
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