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Jun 9 2011, 06:38
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foolboy
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I would love to give some advices, but I do not finish even one RoB. QUOTE(JJudgement @ Jun 9 2011, 00:35)  Thank you so much. I'm still watching every update, if melee gets buffed a bit more i will go for pure fighter. If not so i'll try switch to mage at lvl 100, i'm not sure but, we'll see...
Like dcherry said, it is hard to be a pure fighter. You need your support pro high at the very least. This post has been edited by foolboy: Jun 9 2011, 06:40
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Jun 9 2011, 12:16
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Tsunade_lover
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 9 2011, 05:38)  I would love to give some advices, but I do not finish even one RoB. Like dcherry said, it is hard to be a pure fighter. You need your support pro high at the very least.
You beat the Level 100 arena already right? If that is no problem, you can fight the first 4 challenges easily too.
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Jun 9 2011, 15:17
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Vasistas
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THis is what I have trained so far. For the Auras, I keep upgrading only the first four ones for I'm melee. But what is with more training? What would be better for now, since Ability points are pretty expensive and experience bonus is already maxed and will be with every next tier I reach. How much difference makes adept learner? Or should I put more in Scavenger? I also have already 12 Battle inventroy slots, what would happen if I learn the last Pack Rat, since there is no F13 button? [ img820.imageshack.us] (IMG:[img820.imageshack.us] http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4646/trainern.th.png) This post has been edited by Vasistas: Jun 9 2011, 15:18
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Jun 9 2011, 15:27
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Tsunade_lover
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LOTS more scavenger omg
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Jun 9 2011, 16:28
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foolboy
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QUOTE(Tsunade_lover @ Jun 9 2011, 06:16)  You beat the Level 100 arena already right? If that is no problem, you can fight the first 4 challenges easily too.
Yeah, beat it on normal only though. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I can beat twisted plots relatively easily, but my stock of tokens of blood is kind of laughable. I have only 30. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jun 9 2011, 16:44
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Slobber
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 9 2011, 08:28)  Yeah, beat it on normal only though. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I can beat twisted plots relatively easily, but my stock of tokens of blood is kind of laughable. I have only 30. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) it's ok to beat it on normal. just do RoB in normal. in the end you'll still get the manbearpig tail or w/e. easy 40k if you already beat them in the 20 round arena (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) vasistas omg what weapon have you been using? i coulda sworn you skyrocketed in levels lately. and yeah i think you should get more scavenger lol
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Jun 9 2011, 17:11
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foolboy
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 9 2011, 10:44)  it's ok to beat it on normal. just do RoB in normal. in the end you'll still get the manbearpig tail or w/e. easy 40k if you already beat them in the 20 round arena (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) vasistas omg what weapon have you been using? i coulda sworn you skyrocketed in levels lately. and yeah i think you should get more scavenger lol Then I shall do it soon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) vasistas is probably doing the IW on exquisite item(s). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jun 9 2011, 17:26
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 9 2011, 18:11)  vasistas is probably doing the IW on exquisite item(s). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't know about vasistas but that's exactly what I've been doing. I was level 75 barely a month ago and I'm about to turn 127. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by eleeinos: Jun 9 2011, 17:26
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Jun 9 2011, 17:32
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foolboy
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ Jun 9 2011, 11:26)  I don't know about vasistas but that's exactly what I've been doing. I was level 75 barely a month ago and I'm about to turn 127. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Damn you guys for power leveling. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Since the mobs in exquisite give more experience, are they much stronger? Can you clear IW all the way to the end?
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Jun 9 2011, 17:47
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 9 2011, 18:32)  Since the mobs in exquisite give more experience, are they much stronger? Can you clear IW all the way to the end?
Not quite, I am playing IW in a level 302 Exquisite Leather Breastplate and I can barely reach round 40.. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Then again, I'm playing on Heroic so I can't be sure how far I'd go in Normal difficulty. But yeah, the monsters are kinda stronger, even on Heroic I can go above round 50 in Fair/Average item worlds.
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Jun 9 2011, 18:39
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Slobber
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how much exp are you guys getting per IW run? (per plunge into an item) looks like you guys have way more +exp than me. i'm getting 50k or so per run on a exquis. might also be because i don't have any AP into +exp bonus yet =\
e: i do about 30-45 (depending on gems/mob spawns) on heroic and about 50-60 on hard. that's with great status though =\
This post has been edited by dcherry: Jun 9 2011, 18:40
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Jun 9 2011, 19:01
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 9 2011, 19:39)  how much exp are you guys getting per IW run? (per plunge into an item) looks like you guys have way more +exp than me. i'm getting 50k or so per run on a exquis. might also be because i don't have any AP into +exp bonus yet =\
e: i do about 30-45 (depending on gems/mob spawns) on heroic and about 50-60 on hard. that's with great status though =\
About 90-100k. For me it averages at ~3000 EXP per round (~1000-1500 at early rounds with few monsters, 4500+ at "late" rounds with several powerful custom monsters and uncommons). And I always play with "Great" stamina, while my Adept Learner skill is at 76/300. This post has been edited by eleeinos: Jun 9 2011, 19:02
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Jun 9 2011, 19:23
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foolboy
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Yeah, as you can see, Vasistas's adept learner is very high compared to his other training option. (120/300) And you may have noticed, he has 3 extra auras already, so there are another +7% exp boost for each extra auras. Not to mention he was training the last one. And he probably put a lot of AP in the exp boost.
This post has been edited by foolboy: Jun 9 2011, 19:26
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Jun 9 2011, 19:25
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Slobber
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seems like it. im only netting about 1-2.5k per battle. definitely not enough. extra auras = so expensive though T_T
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Jun 9 2011, 19:30
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foolboy
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 9 2011, 13:25)  seems like it. im only netting about 1-2.5k per battle. definitely not enough. extra auras = so expensive though T_T
I thought you were rich, since you WTB a lot of stuffs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Jun 9 2011, 19:37
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Slobber
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Jun 9 2011, 11:30)  I thought you were rich, since you WTB a lot of stuffs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) i guess i shoulda reworded it. i dont think the aura slot is worth my 50k (i got 1 level since 25k seemed reasonable). if it's for a good weapon i plan on using til i hit 200+ sure i'm willing to throw 50k+ down but for an extra aura? 50k for an extra 7% exp gain? AL such a better deal... lol (most of the other bonuses won't help much anyways since the elemental rating is just +resist now) and most of my gear WTB shouldn't be too expensive. i've bought most of them at 5k/under since the only *spectacular* WTB is the ethereal mace
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Jun 9 2011, 21:45
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Tsunade_lover
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Just a note, in Training they are Aura slots and not Aura points, you might be able to unlock an Aura slot but if you don't have an Aura point to use it then that is wasted until you gain one (every 10 levels)
This post has been edited by Tsunade_lover: Jun 9 2011, 21:45
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Jun 9 2011, 22:10
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Vasistas
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I play also IW on Exquisite leather. With hard I make it now from round 78 to 100, depends on Stamina, boss spawning and how much I'm paying attention on regen and shield.
Have 120% Adept learner In a few hours all 7 aura slots and 7 freed auras, which makes 49% All tiers full of Experience Bonus 126% Usually trying to IW on Stamina above 80 which gives you 50% and more rounds. Don't know how this is all calculated, but usually making now 250k per IW on hard and tried heroic for saving stamina with the result of 333K per IW.
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Jun 9 2011, 22:20
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foolboy
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ Jun 9 2011, 16:10)  I play also IW on Exquisite leather. With hard I make it now from round 78 to 100, depends on Stamina, boss spawning and how much I'm paying attention on regen and shield.
Have 120% Adept learner In a few hours all 7 aura slots and 7 freed auras, which makes 49% All tiers full of Experience Bonus 126% Usually trying to IW on Stamina above 80 which gives you 50% and more rounds. Don't know how this is all calculated, but usually making now 250k per IW on hard and tried heroic for saving stamina with the result of 333K per IW.
That sounds sweet. 333k, tasty. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 9 2011, 22:52
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Namespoofer
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QUOTE(ask1123 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:23)  Can anyone tell me how much is this worth? Sold it to my friend
I would've given you 200k for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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