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post Apr 22 2015, 09:39
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I have near Mmax block shield and dunno what is better. Forge it more or earn a bit credits and look for closer to Lmax shield? I mean its not so easy to sell later and with salvage i ll lose decent amount of credits. So its not perfect investment, because someday i ll change it anyway.
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post Apr 22 2015, 10:12
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Apr 22 2015, 15:39) *

I have near Mmax block shield and dunno what is better. Forge it more or earn a bit credits and look for closer to Lmax shield? I mean its not so easy to sell later and with salvage i ll lose decent amount of credits. So its not perfect investment, because someday i ll change it anyway.

when I got my mag shield, I think I may need to switch to Leg shield sooner or later. After level a few time, I find that a mag shield is more than enough to keep me alive in most of the case.
When the level getting higher, the defense is also getting stronger. So a Leg shield is only for IWBTH+ GF IMO.
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post Apr 22 2015, 10:43
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post Apr 22 2015, 10:53
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 22 2015, 02:28) *

QUOTE(GGS @ Apr 22 2015, 01:50) *

When do you repair your equipment?

51% is best. 76% is next best.

yep. usually i go for ~80%, otherwise i'll wait for 55 or so

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I love supportive spells and am grudgingly grinding deprecating as to use silence.

Can I continue playing without elemental and divine/forbidden magic forever or will I be at disadvantage in the future?

If you have no intention of playing mage in the future, then you don't need to bother with Elemental, Divine, or Forbidden proficiency. If you do decide to switch, even if part-time, then you can worry about that then; it's not going to be a huge issue or anything.

even if if you don't want to play as mage, divine *may* still be useful should you want to try ether theft - only way less efficient than spirit theft. elemental only if you want to unlock all spells (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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I hate Overpower! \(ಠ益ಠ)/
I've been trying to IW my Rapier, but Overpower keeps getting in the way! .... Too many Amnesia Shards wasted. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Anyway, I recall seeing on this thread some time ago, that it's recommended to seek in the first go Fatality 1 + Butcher 1. So Experts, Is it really better to use my amnesia shards right away if I didn't get Fatality 1 + Butcher 1 in the first go, even if I get Fatality 2 (or Butcher 2)?

earning both the potencies you want at the maximum possible is quite difficult/expensive. usually i aim for one (fatality most of the times) and take all what comes as a bonus, with some exceptions: butcher 3 in a offhand is not tolerated, and maximum one overpower - i hate it as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Apr 22 2015, 09:39) *

I have near Mmax block shield and dunno what is better. Forge it more or earn a bit credits and look for closer to Lmax shield? I mean its not so easy to sell later and with salvage i ll lose decent amount of credits. So its not perfect investment, because someday i ll change it anyway.

when I got my mag shield, I think I may need to switch to Leg shield sooner or later. After level a few time, I find that a mag shield is more than enough to keep me alive in most of the case.
When the level getting higher, the defense is also getting stronger. So a Leg shield is only for IWBTH+ GF IMO.

i own a slightly forged l-2 (or l-1? i can't remember...) shield and i think past a certain block there isn't so much advantage. plus, the earning with further levels is almost negligible - i can't afford to spend ~60k for +0.3 block (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) it has very good PABs though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
if your mag shield has good rolls, personally i'd keep it and forge it until P block. it should require 15~20 matrixes iirc. as a side effect, forging a mag rather than a leg will allow you to spare several HG woods/catalysts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 22 2015, 11:49
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d492cb8c5b

Its not something special. Even with 50x forge i ll get only near 58% overall block. Atm its 52,5% and its kinda very low for high diff fest. Or maybe i should use 1 shielding plate with forge? Its not so expensive.
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post Apr 22 2015, 11:57
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Apr 22 2015, 11:49) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d492cb8c5b

Its not something special. Even with 50x forge i ll get only near 58% overall block. Atm its 52,5% and its kinda very low for high diff fest. Or maybe i should use 1 shielding plate with forge? Its not so expensive.


iirc, unforged Emax shield is enough for all non-SG arenas@PF + 1st SG@PF,
add in VV, you can start doing 2nd SG@PF,
for 3rd SG@PF, a close to Mmax shield + some forging.

however, 3 SG@PF already takes forever. ~2-3hrs. yes, you might be able to clear hellfest and all other Arenas@PF, but either way, it's gonna take another ~2-3hrs for each task.
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:01
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Apr 22 2015, 11:49) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d492cb8c5b

Its not something special. Even with 50x forge i ll get only near 58% overall block. Atm its 52,5% and its kinda very low for high diff fest. Or maybe i should use 1 shielding plate with forge? Its not so expensive.

and 60% block isn't enough for fests? well, if it's to see only the increase in block i can lend you this old piece, but i guess it's nothing special in combat. plus, are you sure the gain in block will make up for the loss in ADB? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:28
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Apr 22 2015, 16:49) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d492cb8c5b

Its not something special. Even with 50x forge i ll get only near 58% overall block. Atm its 52,5% and its kinda very low for high diff fest. Or maybe i should use 1 shielding plate with forge? Its not so expensive.

you should not need alot of block , unless you are playing IWBTH+ fest like colman said above (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

my shield much more crappy than your but more than enough for IW and arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I'm poor so I cannot afford buying better shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Apr 22 2015, 12:38
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Im not sure about shielding, because its adb lose. With 77% defense i can clear whole nintendo, but as i remember only 250 pf rounds. Its huge difference, because i dont even use any pot before...400 or near it round. And because my current goal is bt-iwbth i need a bit better set for that. But probably another problem is exactly attack, because rounds should be near 20 or a bit higher turns for not very big damage income.

Probably i ll forge, its much cheaper and atm i dont need perfect 60+ block. Thx for advice guys.

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post Apr 22 2015, 15:24
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It's hard for me to differentiate many Players here from each other now, what should I do to enhance my Mind?

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post Apr 22 2015, 16:13
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Does int improve your healing spells and your protection spell?
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post Apr 22 2015, 16:22
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Does int improve your healing spells and your protection spell?


No. Cure and Protection are influenced by your supportive proficiency and whatever Ability Points you've assigned.
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Apr 22 2015, 16:22) *

No. Cure and Protection are influenced by your supportive proficiency and whatever Ability Points you've assigned.


Okay, thank you. I'll just keep avoid int then.
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post Apr 22 2015, 17:09
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It's hard for me to differentiate many Players here from each other now, what should I do to enhance my Mind?

I've heard adderal works pretty nicely.
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post Apr 22 2015, 18:15
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The amount of HP healed per Cure is also affected by Holy EDB.
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post Apr 22 2015, 19:16
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I've heard adderal works pretty nicely.


Is this the Name of a Medicine?
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post Apr 22 2015, 22:19
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hi experts 1 weak ago i changed from dual wielding leather user to holy mage
i did almoust all arenas in nintendo, but god that took me around 4h every day to do all arenas
so i decided to change to mage
now i have a big problem
first i do arenas way faster (that is a plus) but i can only do them in normal
im thinking of improving my gear but improving cloth gear is way more expensive then leather. And i dont have the money to do so.( i have only unlocked tier 2 holy spells)
So my big question is: what should i do?
go back to dual wielding and do like last 3 arenas every day and every 30 min a monster encounter?
or stay as a mage do all arenas in normal and cry for being a poor guy

because ultimately my objective is to do hellfest and be able to do iwbth iten worlds
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post Apr 22 2015, 22:50
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QUOTE(1xago @ Apr 22 2015, 20:19) *

hi experts 1 weak ago i changed from dual wielding leather user to holy mage
i did almoust all arenas in nintendo, but god that took me around 4h every day to do all arenas
so i decided to change to mage
now i have a big problem
first i do arenas way faster (that is a plus) but i can only do them in normal
im thinking of improving my gear but improving cloth gear is way more expensive then leather. And i dont have the money to do so.( i have only unlocked tier 2 holy spells)
So my big question is: what should i do?
go back to dual wielding and do like last 3 arenas every day and every 30 min a monster encounter?
or stay as a mage do all arenas in normal and cry for being a poor guy

because ultimately my objective is to do hellfest and be able to do iwbth iten worlds

The biggest issue is time and stamina. Mage can clear much faster, but only on lower difficulty (unless you're both high level and have amazing gear). So, assuming you want to get to high level as soon as possible, you can either play as melee on high difficulty, if you have a lot of time for HV (and playing on low difficulty eats up too much stamina quickly), or if you only have like 45 minutes a day to play, stamina isn't an issue and fast-clearing mage is probably the more efficient choice.

Once you get T3 at 200 prof, you should be able to play arenas as mage on Hell or Nintendo at your level. Economizer 5 on staff helps a whole lot as well.

To finish grindfest, you need very good gear and high level. I'm doubtful if it's even doable before level 300, due to level scaling. Right now, your goal should probably be XP (and proficiency that will come with time) more than anything else. At a higher level, you'll have more damage and toughness, and you'll be able to get much more income than you can right now, so you won't be feeling anywhere near as poor.

1h is much easier than DW. You might try a basic decent block shield instead of your offhand and see how things work out. You'll probably feel a whole lot more sturdy (though 1h prof 100+ at least is necessary for counter-attack stuns to become common).
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post Apr 22 2015, 22:57
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QUOTE(1xago @ Apr 23 2015, 03:19) *

hi experts 1 weak ago i changed from dual wielding leather user to holy mage
i did almoust all arenas in nintendo, but god that took me around 4h every day to do all arenas
so i decided to change to mage
now i have a big problem
first i do arenas way faster (that is a plus) but i can only do them in normal
im thinking of improving my gear but improving cloth gear is way more expensive then leather. And i dont have the money to do so.( i have only unlocked tier 2 holy spells)
So my big question is: what should i do?
go back to dual wielding and do like last 3 arenas every day and every 30 min a monster encounter?
or stay as a mage do all arenas in normal and cry for being a poor guy

because ultimately my objective is to do hellfest and be able to do iwbth iten worlds

wait till lvl 310 to go mage path , you will need full power imperil for high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


you will spend much more time soon than 4H everyday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


why don't reduce difficulty into hell/nightmare so you can play quicker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


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post Apr 22 2015, 23:10
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 22 2015, 20:57) *
wait till lvl 310 to go mage path , you will need full power imperil for high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'd think that 2 proficiency cotton with no imperil on medium difficulty would be a viable option from a much lower level, especially if the player doesn't want to commit many hours?
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