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post Jun 1 2011, 02:25
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ May 31 2011, 19:34) *

Well.. it was already past 7am here when I made those posts and I really didn't have the courage to search through the entire WTS sub-forum. X_X But I checked your thread just now.

Well.. the Dragon Hide Breastplate I got from the Bazaar was only level 22 but it has 24.26 holy mitigation.. Of course yours has seriously better stats but it only gives me 12.69 holy mitigation.. Isn't that the only thing important agains IPU, or did I misunderstand something? Is regular Physical absorption/mitigation also important when the attacks do only holy damage? If not, then should I just keep the one I have?

I'll send you a PM about the other two items though, thanks for letting me know that you had them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Searching the WTS forum for specific equipment is pretty easy when you use the Search function at the top of the forums and use the show as posts option instead of show as topics. You can even post a WTB thread and lots of people will show up and offer you things for reasonable prices or even for free.

Actually, the stuff I've got in my shop aren't that good (especially the breastplate); I must have been thinking about what I was selling last week, which have since been fed to the Bazaar (I've tossed plenty of decent stuff no one wanted). If you want to, you can open a WTB or wait until the end of the week and I'll have some fresh loot that might be better than what's in my shop now. I'll hold the ones in there now for you if you do.
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post Jun 1 2011, 03:10
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jun 1 2011, 03:25) *

Searching the WTS forum for specific equipment is pretty easy when you use the Search function at the top of the forums and use the show as posts option instead of show as topics. You can even post a WTB thread and lots of people will show up and offer you things for reasonable prices or even for free.

Actually, the stuff I've got in my shop aren't that good (especially the breastplate); I must have been thinking about what I was selling last week, which have since been fed to the Bazaar (I've tossed plenty of decent stuff no one wanted). If you want to, you can open a WTB or wait until the end of the week and I'll have some fresh loot that might be better than what's in my shop now. I'll hold the ones in there now for you if you do.

Hmm.. If you could hold those two items for me until the end of the week I'd appreciate it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If you don't find anything better until then, I'll buy those two.

As for a WTB thread, I guess that will have to wait until I see what I can buy from you. ^^; For now I'm thinking of opening a small WTS thread instead. During the last couple of days I found a few medium-quality items that might be useful for lower level players so maybe I could sell those to get some credits. And speaking of, is it all right if I send you a PM and ask you to give me a bit of advice regarding the prices?
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post Jun 1 2011, 03:19
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ May 31 2011, 21:10) *

Hmm.. If you could hold those two items for me until the end of the week I'd appreciate it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If you don't find anything better until then, I'll buy those two.

As for a WTB thread, I guess that will have to wait until I see what I can buy from you. ^^; For now I'm thinking of opening a small WTS thread instead. During the last couple of days I found a few medium-quality items that might be useful for lower level players so maybe I could sell those to get some credits. And speaking of, is it all right if I send you a PM and ask you to give me a bit of advice regarding the prices?

I price them based on what I would get from selling them to the bazaar, so some people can get away with an extremely good deal on a pretty nice piece. Not necessarily the best way, so you should see what others do.
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post Jun 1 2011, 12:18
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Question about last arena round loot drop chance bonus.
Is this bonus multipled by scavenger or last round bonus and scavenger adds to themselves?
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post Jun 1 2011, 15:29
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QUOTE(Sardion @ Jun 1 2011, 11:18) *

Question about last arena round loot drop chance bonus.
Is this bonus multipled by scavenger or last round bonus and scavenger adds to themselves?


patch notes 0.5.0 states as

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- The equipment drop chance bonus for the Arena clear bonus has been increased. The new probabilities are as such:
-- base+10% for the first five
-- base+25% for New Beginning through Killzone
-- base+50% for Endgame through Eve of Death
-- base+100% (always) for Trio and above

- Ring of Blood challenges will now always drop a piece of equipment as clear bonus.


I assume that means base is your own drop chance based on your training, and then the last round bonus is added onto that.
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post Jun 1 2011, 15:30
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How large of a difference does 20 burden make? I've noticed that I get double hit on rare occasions in my Light DW set, but that only has ~45 burden and my AGI isn't terribad (55, +19 from equipment/Auras).

Kind of wondering if Shadowdancer or Phase stuff would help that much.
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post Jun 1 2011, 16:47
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just a quick question, can any experts tell me what is the max evade for shade with or without the evade boost suffix (fleet & shadowdancer.
i have check the maxumun state thread but the state of shade evade is not on there. thanks.

and if possible, can any experts tell me does this piece worth anything, thanks.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b020df775c

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post Jun 2 2011, 02:36
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jun 1 2011, 20:30) *

How large of a difference does 20 burden make? I've noticed that I get double hit on rare occasions in my Light DW set, but that only has ~45 burden and my AGI isn't terribad (55, +19 from equipment/Auras).


Action speed, in general, is quite a complicated concept. It's quite difficult to know exactly, say, how would 5 burden less means in practice... It depend on how you play and the enemy, so I can't answer your question.

Personally, I don't really care much about burden after the changes to how Action speed work some patched ago. I'm not saying because it's not important, but its so difficult to know what impact it make, it seem better to focus on other thing instead.

Melee is difficult until you get X-Attack at lv.90 ... It become a lot easier once you got it.

QUOTE(hwiki @ Jun 1 2011, 21:47) *

just a quick question, can any experts tell me what is the max evade for shade with or without the evade boost suffix (fleet & shadowdancer.
i have check the maxumun state thread but the state of shade evade is not on there. thanks.

and if possible, can any experts tell me does this piece worth anything, thanks.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b020df775c


I don't really keep much track on how much equipment stats have change as of late... I'm remember someone (DeathG?) asked Tenb about it but I don't remember what he answer. And I believe no one knows how much evade Shadowdancer suffix adds. It take more than a year just to get vague idea what Fleet suffix does to Silks... This thing take times.

Your gloves seem to have a pretty good evade though.

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post Jun 2 2011, 03:14
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 2 2011, 03:36) *
Melee is difficult until you get X-Attack at lv.90 ... It become a lot easier once you got it.

Unless you have 60+ Burden like me, in which case you can't hit twice in a row even with X-Attack. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 2 2011, 07:42
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This question is more for the high level melee players: What kind of armor do you use? Heavy or Light? And if so, what suffix type of armor sets do you keep/use? Also, if you wear heavy armor, how do you fair against the Legendaries with the slower action speed?

Prior to the recent update, I went Silk Fleet with relatively no problems but since then, I went Shade Fleet/Shadowdancer with some problems (i.e. taking heavy damage) and I was wondering if going with Heavy Armor would be more viable. Thanks for any input.
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post Jun 2 2011, 08:51
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Not sure if high lv. enough to answer.. oh well.

You sure your Shade are as good as your Silks? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) And you sure that it's not because of the custom mobs, the agitate feature, or increased difficulty level?

I still haven't see any Shade that give more protection than my Silks. Shade gives you more power than Silks though. And the Critical bonus is nice.

Before 0.5.3, I use 2 Kev, 2 Silks, 1 Heavy. Currently, I use all Kevlar. The decent pieces are the 2 old one I had before, the another 3 sucks... It surely have less protection than before. (and in fact, I use the old setup for quite a while after the new patch) But, I'm an offensive-oriented player, so I switch, even though 3 of my armor sucks. I'm also want to use Shade. I would mix in some Shade with my current Kevlar, if I found a good one, that is.

Heavy actually work pretty well at what it supposed to do, and you can try it out if you find a good one. But it is a mana-intensive setup because of the high interference.

You can also use Mace, which is what some high lv. people around here use. It's very boring to play with it, but you can survive much, much longer; perhaps even more than 1H+Shield.

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post Jun 2 2011, 11:44
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 2 2011, 07:51) *

which is what some high lv. people around here use. It's very boring to play with it, but you can survive much, much longer; perhaps even more than 1H+Shield.
That's a untrue, people use mace only for BT/IWTBH because you die in a couple of hits otherwise.
Usually they use scythes, IIRC Bunko can even play on Hell with it.
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post Jun 2 2011, 12:04
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Of course, you'll also need spirit shield since you could die in one hit otherwise. Possibly haste, too, to get the most of the stun duration. With both of them on IA and at least decent mana regen, you can get really far without buring through your mana pots.

Ethereal weapons help, too, of course; no burden = higher speed.
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post Jun 2 2011, 12:26
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@ cmdct

Let's assume that what you said is true.

You say what I said is not true. And what I said is that some high lv. people around here use mace, and it help you survive better, and it's boring to use.

Then you say 'people use mace' ... I assume that would include the "some high lv. people around here" that I mentioned. So what I said here is true.

Then you say people use mace 'only for BT/IWTBH because you die in a couple of hits otherwise' ... That would means it help you survive better. Which is exactly what I said.

The only thing I said that could be wrong is that 'It's boring to use' ... And the only reason why this could be wrong is because it's a subjective thing, depend on the player preference. Even if this is wrong, it doesn't mean the claim that what I said is untrue is right.

Another claim by me is that mace might help you survive better than 1H+Shield. Then again, I said "perhaps" ...

You also said people usually use Scythe. ... I believe that I didn't said anything that would means "they don't".


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post Jun 2 2011, 12:48
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You're thinking too deep in something you misunderstood, that was a comment only to the first quoted statement. You were responding Shinzo55 in which he was asking what high melee normally use to survive, imo it's implicit here we was referring on "normal" dairy challenges.

That said, I don't think anyone use a mace for this, since you can use other faster weapons instead, like the scythe example I said above. If there's a exception? Sure, there's always exceptions.

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post Jun 2 2011, 13:03
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I said "You can also (try) use Mace" after the answer of his question about what armor do people use. It's an added suggestion by me, relevant to his complain.


Instead of doing pointless thing. Why don't you try answering Shinzo55 for a change?

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post Jun 2 2011, 13:15
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I use illithid mace for arenas, so far I have completed crusade on nightmare, generally I get to round 69 consuming maybe 2-3 lesser mana potions, or none depending on the crystals, I'll try Hell today. If the rares spawn together then the last round is quite quick, if not, snore....

As for armour, I use all cloth, phase/earthwalker/high evade, I'd rather not get hit at all than mitigate lots of hits. I don't have any good heavy or light armour though. I've dropped 1 shade and one from the shrine, both negation gauntlets, both crap.

High supportive prof, for haste and shadow veil, SV for more evasion and haste to allow extra healing or extra turn to stun, sometimes I can stun 5 at once (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

but its damn slow (heartseeker was a welcome boost!), but you can live well, and high proc illithid lets you recoup mana slowly.

What people do or use will certainly depend on their gear, as mentioned, my heavy, light gear is very bad, and I don't have any decent scythes either, the ones I have are good enough to agitate 5 monsters after 2-3 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jun 2 2011, 13:42
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 2 2011, 12:03) *

I said "You can also (try) use Mace" after the answer of his question about what armor do people use. It's an added suggestion by me, relevant to his complain.

I didn't said you can't use or not a mace, it's good or not, or even your discussing your relevant suggestion about it. I just stated isn't what people usually use unless for extreme challenges.
QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 2 2011, 12:03) *
Instead of doing pointless thing. Why don't you try answering Shinzo55 for a change?
Speaking about pointless things, and using your language you sometimes use and abuse, you're just trolling here, and the irony about this is, while you know what hypocrisy is, you fail to realize what it is, when you decide to troll, despite criticizing others for doing the same.
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post Jun 2 2011, 13:49
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HI! Ineed the advice of the masters here!

My goal is to grind opponents to minced meat as fast as possible! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Since the missions are getting longer, the grindfest is long, itemworld is fucking long, and it gets boring after a while.

My idea about it is to go dual wield Katana + Waki combo
I fould out that healing is pretty useful for survival. Tried out maxed Thunderstorm with Static Charge, but it was weak, so I ended up slashing instead. I donät know how useful the spirit tank is though. Looks like spirit grows back so slow, that I can only use it very rarely. Also many opponents have holy resistance, and then the spirit attack doesn't do much.

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post Jun 2 2011, 14:29
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QUOTE(XSaint @ Jun 2 2011, 13:49) *

HI! Ineed the advice of the masters here!

My goal is to grind opponents to minced meat as fast as possible! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Since the missions are getting longer, the grindfest is long, itemworld is fucking long, and it gets boring after a while.

My idea about it is to go dual wield Katana + Waki combo
I fould out that healing is pretty useful for survival. Tried out maxed Thunderstorm with Static Charge, but it was weak, so I ended up slashing instead. I donät know how useful the spirit tank is though. Looks like spirit grows back so slow, that I can only use it very rarely. Also many opponents have holy resistance, and then the spirit attack doesn't do much.

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Well, as a warrior I admit that katana+wakizashi are very useful for newbie warrior. They can provide good damage and attack several targets. After lv.100 or so you can consider to look for a two-handed weapon because the profiency will provide more benefits then.

If you want to be a warrior spells are not necessary, for higher interference will make your magic weaker. What you should do is to attack, attack and heal. Health Tank, Magic Tank and Experience Bonus are fine, and Spirit Tank is only needed when you want to fulfill Overcharge Boost. By the way, Overcharge did provide 50% attack damage bonus before but now it only provide one third.When you reach higher level Weaken and Bewilder are very useful to fight against bosses.
Spirit Attack is not so useful. It does do great damage but the spirit grows so slow, and does "soul" damage instead of "holy". When fighting against a strong boss you can try to use it.


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