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post Apr 7 2015, 02:28
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No Radiant is shittier than these. As far as I'm concerned, it's the cruelest drop in HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 7 2015, 03:16
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QUOTE(Athray Aiko @ Apr 6 2015, 18:54) *

hello, very lowbie here.
What stats should I be investing in? I'm using a staff.

Strength (40)
Dexterity (40)
Agility (40)
Endurance (94)
Intelligence (94)
Wisdom (94)

also are these worth upgrading?
Exquisite Demonic Katalox Staff of Focus

Legendary Jade Cotton Cap of Warding

More Agility means more evade, which is very useful for mage. It's fine to keep Strength and Dexterity low though.

Staff looks good to use, for your level, but I don't think it's quite good enough to justify forging.

Armor should either be Phase or Demon-fiend (assuming you're Dark) (if you're encountering significant resists). Anything else is probably not worth the tradeoff.


thanks for the advice. i'll lurk the forums more for phase armor
a bit disappointed with the legendary though, should I sell it in bazaar or is it worth something?

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post Apr 7 2015, 04:08
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 7 2015, 08:28) *

No Radiant is shittier than these. As far as I'm concerned, it's the cruelest drop in HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Looks like mine is shittier. But well, it's only magnificent shit, not legendarily shitty.
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post Apr 7 2015, 04:43
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Do many folk here actually hang on to obsolete equipment? I mean, obsolete equipment that is useless? I generally get rid of them as soon as I can - keep the best, salvage (or sell) the rest...
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post Apr 7 2015, 05:17
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 6 2015, 19:11) *

Kind of defeats the purpose of being Radiant if the EDB is so bad.

Still waiting on that revolutionary equipment revamp...


Well using dodgy estimates*, it appears to give ~1.3% Magic Base damage. Which is extremely close to 1H Savage vs other prefix bonus damage of ~1.3% (with feathershards).

*my level, 1k INT/WIS, +50 forged MMAX staff of destruction.
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post Apr 7 2015, 05:21
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QUOTE(Athray Aiko @ Apr 7 2015, 01:16) *
thanks for the advice. i'll lurk the forums more for phase armor
a bit disappointed with the legendary though, should I sell it in bazaar or is it worth something?
It's probably worth more as salvaged high-grade cloth (7k+- ?) than bazzar value but you'd have to check sell price.

You could keep it for sentimental value, or (if/once you open a shop) hope that someone will see the "Legendary" and want to buy it, but I don't think that's all that likely.

You're still quite lucky to have found a legendary. I think I found my first one around level 300. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 7 2015, 02:43) *
Do many folk here actually hang on to obsolete equipment? I mean, obsolete equipment that is useless? I generally get rid of them as soon as I can - keep the best, salvage (or sell) the rest...
I don't understand it either, but some people like collecting stuff just for the sake of it, apparently.
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post Apr 7 2015, 05:30
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 7 2015, 05:21) *
You're still quite lucky to have found a legendary. I think I found my first one around level 300. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I got my first legendary at 230-ish or maybe earlier. At 4th level of LotD. A leather. Sold it to bazaar. No legendary dropped for me since.
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Obsolete equipment is like triforce, except it's not link's game (what was it called?), to prove that you''re one of the oldfags.
Just kidding. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 7 2015, 06:06
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 7 2015, 13:21) *

You're still quite lucky to have found a legendary. I think I found my first one around level 300.

Would need to redefine lucky when you see all your leg drops are like this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
This is with Scavenger 40/50 and LOTD 17/25. Btw the fiery wakizashi was bought so that doesn't count too

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post Apr 7 2015, 10:50
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 6 2015, 20:11) *
Still waiting on that revolutionary equipment revamp...

forever young
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post Apr 7 2015, 10:55
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forever young


Ah yes the initial D track by Eurobeat . Nothing beats a good AMV to bring your mind back from the insanity .

because "you know life is just a game... FOREVEEER YOUUNGGG" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

PS so now the post easter wait game begins or is it already over ?

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post Apr 7 2015, 19:30
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There is any way to track mob gifts?
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post Apr 7 2015, 21:59
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 6 2015, 02:59) *

Staff has no suffix, which means a huge loss in EDB, so trash.

no suffix? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 6 2015, 14:30) *

I was thinking one day of a dual elemental waki of the battlecaster + radiant.

just curious, 1st or 2nd gen battlecaster?

QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:28) *

No Radiant is shittier than these. As far as I'm concerned, it's the cruelest drop in HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

you (and all the others that posted under you) have a really perverted concept of 'cruel' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
i'd be really happy to have it should i ever complete a freyr set

QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 7 2015, 04:43) *

Do many folk here actually hang on to obsolete equipment? I mean, obsolete equipment that is useless? I generally get rid of them as soon as I can - keep the best, salvage (or sell) the rest...

next time, please pm me B-)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 7 2015, 05:21) *

I don't understand it either, but some people like collecting stuff just for the sake of it, apparently.

here i am! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) mind you, sometimes they aren't so worthless though

QUOTE(clarkiest @ Apr 7 2015, 05:30) *

Obsolete equipment is like triforce, except it's not link's game (what was it called?), to prove that you''re one of the oldfags.

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oh, btw... if you started playing on your regdate you're way more oldfart than me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 06:34
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After the non-schoolgirl arenas on the second page, a very bored person has 2 options left: either spend time on the 25-50 round arenas, or do Grindfest. (I last until round 200-220) Which do you guys think is more profitable, money-wise? Arenas give around double the credits, more frequent chaos tokens per round, but half the other drops, and less than 1/4 the crystal drops of GF. (I do not have Crystarium)
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post Apr 8 2015, 06:40
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 7 2015, 21:34) *

After the non-schoolgirl arenas on the second page, a very bored person has 2 options left: either spend time on the 25-50 round arenas, or do Grindfest. (I last until round 200-220) Which do you guys think is more profitable, money-wise? Arenas give around double the credits, more frequent chaos tokens per round, but half the other drops, and less than 1/4 the crystal drops of GF. (I do not have Crystarium)


Arenas give 4x the credits of grindfest and also have a clear bonus, so it's probably more profitable to do that.
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post Apr 8 2015, 06:45
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 8 2015, 12:34) *

After the non-schoolgirl arenas on the second page, a very bored person has 2 options left: either spend time on the 25-50 round arenas, or do Grindfest. (I last until round 200-220) Which do you guys think is more profitable, money-wise? Arenas give around double the credits, more frequent chaos tokens per round, but half the other drops, and less than 1/4 the crystal drops of GF. (I do not have Crystarium)

Switch to mage and go GF. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 07:05
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Arenas give 4x the credits of grindfest and also have a clear bonus, so it's probably more profitable to do that.
Forgot about the clear bonus, thanks.

Each monster gives 4x more credits in Arena, but there are also significantly fewer average monsters per round compared to GF's 8.
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Switch to mage and go GF. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
For me, past round 100, I'm healing quite frequently as 1h. Even Focus doesn't really work because monsters start doing so much damage - even with only 1 or 2 mobs left, with SS off and trying to gain OC or use Focus when all are stunned, Cure is common. Past ~150, and it seems like healing nearly every turn Cure is off CD.

And this is with 1h. With mage I feel I'll be instagibbed almost as soon as I start. (Mage repair costs are also double 1h repair costs, which eats up quite a big chunk of my income... seems barely profitable - especially with GF where equipment rusts more quickly than Arena. If I dropped difficulty to where mage could handle, I don't know if I would even break even). I really really want to play as mage everywhere with my nice shiny equipment instead of 1h, but the repair costs are just too much.

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post Apr 8 2015, 07:22
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 8 2015, 13:05) *

For me, past round 100, I'm healing quite frequently as 1h. Even Focus doesn't really work because monsters start doing so much damage - even with only 1 or 2 mobs left, with SS off and trying to gain OC or use Focus when all are stunned, Cure is common. Past ~150, and it seems like healing nearly every turn Cure is off CD.

And this is with 1h. With mage I feel I'll be instagibbed almost as soon as I start. (Mage repair costs are also double 1h repair costs, which eats up quite a big chunk of my income... seems barely profitable - especially with GF where equipment rusts more quickly than Arena. If I dropped difficulty to where mage could handle, I don't know if I would even break even). I really really want to play as mage everywhere with my nice shiny equipment instead of 1h, but the repair costs are just too much.

Just die or flee when potion run out. No reason to go deep. Your target is not crystals anyway.
I normally GF @ Nintendo for artifact/crystal. GF @ PF for exq gears (that will become credits).

BTW, are you using full Leg mage set? I'm using 5x mag cloth so I can sustain my repair cost @ hell+.

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post Apr 8 2015, 07:46
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 8 2015, 05:22) *
Just die or flee when potion run out. No reason to go deep. Your target is not crystals anyway.
Good point.
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BTW, are you using full Leg mage set?
Yep. Reasoning was that very high stats are needed for getting far in PF GF, which I want to do eventually (said to be doable?), though I still have many Phazons and levels to go before that becomes an option. I suppose I could spend more millions for 5 Mags, but that seems redundant and I wouldn't be able to forge them. Seems better to keep using 1h.

I think I calculated Arena repair costs as mage as 49k for non-SG and 25+ rounds. GF is worse, probably 80k or something for same number of rounds, which is a huge chunk of income down the drain. I just can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Though, if hath falls to 1500, I might be able to afford Repair Bear, and things would be different.

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post Apr 8 2015, 09:02
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 8 2015, 13:46) *

Good point.Yep. Reasoning was that very high stats are needed for getting far in PF GF, which I want to do eventually (said to be doable?), though I still have many Phazons and levels to go before that becomes an option. I suppose I could spend more millions for 5 Mags, but that seems redundant and I wouldn't be able to forge them. Seems better to keep using 1h.

I think I calculated Arena repair costs as mage as 49k for non-SG and 25+ rounds. GF is worse, probably 80k or something for same number of rounds, which is a huge chunk of income down the drain. I just can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Though, if hath falls to 1500, I might be able to afford Repair Bear, and things would be different.

You should mix some cotton to lower the repair cost and time/round.
Repair bear is just for wasting haths.
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:09
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GF without crystals perks is useless. Specially as mage.

Btw. how many gf rounds i could do with few mage sets? Lets say hell diff.
1. With 3m set
2. With 10m set
3. With 20m set


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