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post Apr 1 2015, 18:30
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 16:27) *

true it's quite harder now... so im looking for upgrading especially my defense
so which quite of equipement with niten is better? or maybe which weapon is better with power heavy equipement?
1h is necessary for decent defense before high level. You have more choice with armor, but heavy armor is usually preferred with 1h due to the ability to get Power Slaughter, which compensates for 1h's low base attack potential.
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post Apr 1 2015, 18:31
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sorry i read your post after i post mine (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

true it's quite harder now... so im looking for upgrading especially my defense
so i'll get 1h in stock
and which kind of equipement with niten is best? light armor?
thanks for answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Apr 1 2015, 18:35
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Mar 31 2015, 11:47) *

The server parts are artifacts. Shrining them should give you the same reward as shrining a normal artifact.

nope, it's only 1 hath instead of 2. just like altcoins. not sure if they have higher chance to earn PABs than precursors though

QUOTE(m118w11 @ Mar 31 2015, 13:11) *

But this year there is 7 artifacts instead of 6 so it may be different.

weren't altcoins 7 as well? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(watisit @ Mar 31 2015, 18:20) *

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why all those unused EXP?

QUOTE(watisit @ Mar 31 2015, 18:51) *

And trio and the tree, does the tree affect all 9 other bosses?

yes. goddesses' effects as well, so you may want to kill them at last or at a quite good point towards the end

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Apr 1 2015, 17:49) *

None. But are all potencies equally good?

not sure, but it seems they are - except for the fact that if you plan to use it with heavy armor, swift is completely wasted. ADB is already high enough, so fatality and overpower maybe?

QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 18:27) *

so which quite of equipement with niten is better? or maybe which weapon is better with power heavy equipement?

power heavy usually calls for 1H + shield. for niten you may try either shade (for evade/speed bonus) or heavy (for ADB), but maybe shade....
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post Apr 1 2015, 19:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 1 2015, 18:35) *

weren't altcoins 7 as well? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yeah I can't count.
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post Apr 1 2015, 19:39
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 18:19) *
one question : do i have to get "protection,balance or slaughter" for my power heavy?and for my weapon(slaughter is good enough)?

You can start using slaughter weapon once you have 110% or 120% accuracy. I am at 160%, and people love to get to 200% so their attack won't get evaded. As for power armor..,

The optimum offense/defense at higher level is four slaughter and one plate of protection, worn at your feet. Wearing plate at other place or two pieces rather than just one is fine too, it's just not optimal. You may leave out plate if you can afford going full offensive, or have enough actuator and binding of protection to forge your slaughter pieces. This set up is for when you don't have to think about spending credit, some millions per pieces, which I guess is not your case. I know it isn't mine.

Other set up is worth exploring too, like one balance four slaughter for a bit more critical, or even full warding for drag out rounds against magic mobs. As long as you survive 10-ish turns at the beginning of the round and pack enough punch to end the round before mobs can hurt you, it's viable. I went with 2 power of slaughter, 2 power of protection, and one shield until lvl 270. I gradually able to leave out PMI bonus and start to stack attack damage from then on.

If you wish to just do the game, amass the credit, and be done with it, you can just jump the bandwagon. But if you wish feel the joy of clearing arena or IW sets after struggling to survive, not sweating over few death every once in a while, it's time to try stuffs.
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post Apr 1 2015, 19:54
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 18:19) *

one question : do i have to get "protection,balance or slaughter" for my power heavy?and for my weapon(slaughter is good enough)?

weapon of slaughter is a good choice, yes. as for armors, if you still have survivability issues, use a mix of protection and warding, and slowly upgrade to slaughter as soon as you have credits and surviving isn't a problem

QUOTE(clarkiest @ Apr 1 2015, 19:39) *

You can start using slaughter weapon once you have 110% or 120% accuracy. I am at 160%, and people love to get to 200% so their attack won't get evaded. As for power armor..,

if you use 1H 130~140 is good enough, since overwhelming strikes provides another 50%. also, with all those counter-stuns it's not so easy for a mob to evade

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The optimum offense/defense at higher level is four slaughter and one plate of protection, worn at your feet. Wearing plate at other place or two pieces rather than just one is fine too, it's just not optimal. You may leave out plate if you can afford going full offensive, or have enough actuator and binding of protection to forge your slaughter pieces. This set up is for when you don't have to think about spending credit, some millions per pieces, which I guess is not your case. I know it isn't mine.

do higher-ups still use plate of protection? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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Other set up is worth exploring too, like one balance four slaughter for a bit more critical, or even full warding for drag out rounds against magic mobs. As long as you survive 10-ish turns at the beginning of the round and pack enough punch to end the round before mobs can hurt you, it's viable. I went with 2 power of slaughter, 2 power of protection, and one shield until lvl 270. I gradually able to leave out PMI bonus and start to stack attack damage from then on.

i think that tiny little bit of crit (added multiplicatively!) isn't really worth the loss in ADB (which is a net sum), maybe only if you have a shitton of actuators to throw away. but if you don't have, i guess you'd better use full slaughter as soon as you can and earn crit by forging rapier and/or raising DEX and STR
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post Apr 1 2015, 20:34
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Apr 1 2015, 17:39) *
The optimum offense/defense at higher level is four slaughter and one plate of protection, worn at your feet.
I think all slaughter is the way to go for high level players, since defense just stops being an issue somewhere between 280 and 320. (also depending on forge.) It may be different if you're doing GF instead of arenas, but unless you're doing that, all power slaughter has a faster clear speed with same reliability.
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post Apr 1 2015, 20:35
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 29 2015, 14:00) *

it really depends on how much you play and which kind of drops. let's say that once you'll unlock all SG arenas and do it daily for trophies, 50k/day shouldn't be too much of a problem

with 'creating a high level monster' i guess it's meant a PL1000. don't know how many credits are needed exactly, but i bet you should start hoard them by now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Are those 50k from gold drops or also from selling items?
And the trophies i get now only get me useless items in the shrine. Are the trophies from higher level arenas much better?
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post Apr 1 2015, 20:50
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QUOTE(ale137 @ Apr 1 2015, 20:35) *

Are those 50k from gold drops or also from selling items?
And the trophies i get now only get me useless items in the shrine. Are the trophies from higher level arenas much better?

if you do them at low difficulties, consider 50k almost only from trophies. if you do them at higher difficulties, then consider 50k credit drops only during the three marathons, plus ~40k from trophies. i tend not to include all the other items/gears because they are too random
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post Apr 1 2015, 20:50
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QUOTE(ale137 @ Apr 2 2015, 02:35) *

And the trophies i get now only get me useless items in the shrine. Are the trophies from higher level arenas much better?

No. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You can assume trophies will never give you something useful unless you shrine 1000s.
Better sell them to other players if you want credits.

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post Apr 1 2015, 20:52
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 1 2015, 20:50) *

No. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You can assume trophies will never give you something useful unless you shrine 1000s.
Better sell them to other players if you want credits.

lol, forgot that question (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 1 2015, 21:00
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I have find found something new after I come back to HV two weeks ago.

1. I need more MG cloth than HG cloth. I think it is because the rarity of CP.
End up like this.
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2. My stock of ED is increasing. I wonder why people buying ED now.
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post Apr 1 2015, 21:41
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 1 2015, 14:00) *
My stock of ED is increasing. I wonder why people buying ED now.

People that don't do trainings or they sell their artifacts. My ED have increased faster than I can use them for years, so it's nothing new.
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:21
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 1 2015, 20:34) *
I think all slaughter is the way to go for high level players, since defense just stops being an issue somewhere between 280 and 320. (also depending on forge.) It may be different if you're doing GF instead of arenas, but unless you're doing that, all power slaughter has a faster clear speed with same reliability.

Yes, it's GF. Arena's threat is only higher number of mob by the end of the set while GF (and I feel IW too) also make them buffier, if not fiercer, deep into the set. If I want to go as far as I could, I always equip a shield greaves. But most of the time I just come full slaughter, bang bang bang, and die before the 100th round.
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:41
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Apr 1 2015, 09:31) *

which kind of equipement with niten is best?

it's a weaboo trap.
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:43
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 2 2015, 06:41) *

People that don't do trainings or they sell their artifacts. My ED have increased faster than I can use them for years, so it's nothing new.


Well Im buying ED when I was power levelling with the 80+ exp bonus, though now that there's nothing after 450 I can going back to self-sustain ED, Im pretty sure a number of people are also doing this, in fear of the equipment patch.

People are pretty crazy when panicked, Some guy even preemptively locked his 50m peerless phase by salvage-buy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Apr 2 2015, 04:49
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I just completed a set of server parts. Now what do I do with them?
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:58
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QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Apr 1 2015, 19:49) *

I just completed a set of server parts. Now what do I do with them?


Offer the complete set to the Shrine before Tuesday April 7 00:00 UTC.
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post Apr 2 2015, 05:04
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 2 2015, 00:35) *

why all those unused EXP?


I just came out of arena with a blood token. Used them all before challenging FSM.

Server parts farming: Hell difficulty for GF and IW?
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post Apr 2 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(watisit @ Apr 1 2015, 20:04) *

I just came out of arena with a blood token. Used them all before challenging FSM.

Server parts farming: Hell difficulty for GF and IW?


Ideally the highest difficulty that you can manage since the drop chance increases with higher difficulties. But the minimum that you should play at is hell so that you can avoid the penalty for excessive play.
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