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Mar 17 2015, 22:30
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animarum
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I currently Dual wield two 1-h maces, been using them for probably close to 50~ levels. I am currently able to do IWBTH random encounters while using all my consumables (3 health, 5 mana, 1 spirit), but i want to be able to do the random encounters on PFUDOR. I dont have many credits, and I dont know in which areas to imrpove to be able to do PFUDOR. I die faster than i can recover health. not sure what else to screencap [ imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dikmW6U.png) This post has been edited by animarum: Mar 17 2015, 22:30
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Mar 17 2015, 23:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(animarum @ Mar 17 2015, 21:30)  I currently Dual wield two 1-h maces, been using them for probably close to 50~ levels. I am currently able to do IWBTH random encounters while using all my consumables (3 health, 5 mana, 1 spirit), but i want to be able to do the random encounters on PFUDOR. I dont have many credits, and I dont know in which areas to imrpove to be able to do PFUDOR. I die faster than i can recover health. not sure what else to screencap
well, tbh you're pretty far from optimal builds, which may be: - 1H: rapier + shield + heavy power armors
- DW + shade armors, with two variants:
- club of slaughter + rapier of balance/nimble (high damage)
- rapier of slaughter + waki of nimble (high parry)
fact is, when you go DW you'd better differentiate the kinds of effects, and in the current build of HV, PA effect is pretty much mandatory. given your tight budget and if you only want to be able to complete REs on PF, i guess you'd better keep that demonic club (btw, may you provide the link?) and buy an ethereal/hallowed rapier of balance/nimble This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 17 2015, 23:18
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Mar 17 2015, 23:46
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animarum
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Mar 18 2015, 00:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(animarum @ Mar 17 2015, 22:46)  the demonic club seems ok to me. btw, forge its dark EDB only if you have materials to throw away and/or if you want to raise a couple of PXP without doing an IW run, because otherwise it's completely useless. and that rapier, well - it isn't anything special, but you can still use it to try and see if PA is useful. once i'll finish the arena i'll check my inventory if there's something good...
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Mar 18 2015, 00:05
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(animarum @ Mar 17 2015, 21:46)  If the mainhand club stuns an attacked monster, the offhand club's proc is wasted - does nothing. Like Scremaz said, better to use a rapier for PA (full PA stacks can result in you doing 2x or more damage to attacked monsters - it's huge, especially when monsters have a lot of HP). Try getting an Exquisite+ rapier of Nimble (defensive, more parry) or Balance (offensive, more accuracy/crit) for offhand. Make sure PA chance is pretty high - your current rapier has only 13% chance, which is close to as low as you can get. Ethereal or Hallowed will be even better. Don't upgrade equipment below 310 PXP or so - the upgrade costs will dwarf the value of the equipment itself. Better to buy something better with significantly better base stats.
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Mar 18 2015, 00:15
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 17 2015, 03:53)  I think prof build is always slower than full phase build if you are using imperil. High prof build is for lazy player like me who do not use imperil. BTW, I know you just want to take your pants off. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) After level 450 1 prof item is almost always worthwhile for mages. Most people replace boots as they have the lowest spell damage.
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Mar 18 2015, 00:48
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Cleavs
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[Superior Shade Breastplate of Negation] from PF TTT. i want back my tokens (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Mar 18 2015, 02:22
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 17 2015, 20:35)  722 is more than enough. ~750 is required for LG not to appear anymore
Getting rid of the chance to receive LG is but the first step to get HG materials. PL 1500 is simply too far away, so PL 750ish is the bare minimum to get more HG.
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Mar 18 2015, 04:24
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trutta
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Thanks for the feedback, I personally like the stun over the PA because I can survive better atm in this way - which brings me to that - I recently changed from PA and 2H to shade and DW, my profs are in the low 60's.
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Mar 18 2015, 15:49
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Koaen
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 17 2015, 18:15)  After level 450 1 prof item is almost always worthwhile for mages. Most people replace boots as they have the lowest spell damage.
Thanks for your input. After forging a bit, I do notice a decrease in resisted spells. Considering I have an edb staff, I might do 2 prof pieces and try for a radiant phase piece.
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Mar 18 2015, 16:20
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CrimsonClown
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Wow, those equipment on jenga's sig are really amazing especially those shades and rapier. That damage, PA chance and duration are really high. I could just stare and drool at them for hours.
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Mar 18 2015, 22:42
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Kominechan
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Okay so this game is getting tougher and tougher for me even on normal mode. I can't beat the arena when they hit me like 1/4 of my hp and i'm hitting them 1/20. I already lost my first clear bonus for the level 30 arena. Am i doing something wrong?
I'm on 33 str/ 33 dex/ 25 agi/ 31 edu/ 25 int
Offhand: Superior short sword of slaughter Body: Average leather breastplate of dampening Legs: Average leather leggings of dampening Feet: Superior leather boots of protection
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Mar 18 2015, 22:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Kominechan @ Mar 18 2015, 21:42)  Okay so this game is getting tougher and tougher for me even on normal mode. I can't beat the arena when they hit me like 1/4 of my hp and i'm hitting them 1/20. I already lost my first clear bonus for the level 30 arena. Am i doing something wrong?
I'm on 33 str/ 33 dex/ 25 agi/ 31 edu/ 25 int
Offhand: Superior short sword of slaughter Body: Average leather breastplate of dampening Legs: Average leather leggings of dampening Feet: Superior leather boots of protection
not wis? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) however i think at your level you should wear full 4 PABs exquisite leather of protection + 2H weapon, preferrably ethereal (either longsword or mace of slaughter, but longswords should be easier to find for cheap). also, slot all the abilities you actively use and are available: HP/MP tank are a must, then better health/mana potions. then come 2H and light armor-related abilities better cure is very important, and other supportive spells you're using as well. all clear, isn't it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Mar 18 2015, 22:55
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Kominechan @ Mar 18 2015, 20:42)  Okay so this game is getting tougher and tougher for me even on normal mode. I can't beat the arena when they hit me like 1/4 of my hp and i'm hitting them 1/20. I already lost my first clear bonus for the level 30 arena. Am i doing something wrong?
I'm on 33 str/ 33 dex/ 25 agi/ 31 edu/ 25 int
Offhand: Superior short sword of slaughter Body: Average leather breastplate of dampening Legs: Average leather leggings of dampening Feet: Superior leather boots of protection
For equipment, try posting your equipment links instead of just their names - that way others can see what their stats are. Try getting Exquisite leather with 4 PABs. It's pretty common in the Bazaar, and can greatly increase your damage and toughness. I take it you're dual-wielding? If shortsword is offhand, what's mainhand? If you want to dual-wield, you'll be able to do the most damage with an Ethereal axe or club of slaughter in mainhand, hopefully Exquisite. Since offhand weapons don't contribute much of their listed weapon damage, they're less suited for Slaughter suffix and are better with something of Nimble or of Balance (probably a rapier or waki). Intelligence is useless for melee, except for spirit points - it's OK to leave it at 40 points behind the rest of your stats. Wisdom, on the other hand, is essential. (if yours is 0, that might be one source of the problem).
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Mar 18 2015, 23:07
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 18 2015, 21:55)  For equipment, try posting your equipment links instead of just their names - that way others can see what their stats are.
link or note, an average leather is still an average breastplate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 18 2015, 21:55)  I take it you're dual-wielding? If shortsword is offhand, what's mainhand? If you want to dual-wield, you'll be able to do the most damage with an Ethereal axe or club of slaughter in mainhand, hopefully Exquisite. Since offhand weapons don't contribute much of their listed weapon damage, they're less suited for Slaughter suffix and are better with something of Nimble or of Balance (probably a rapier or waki).
personally i think splash damage is more useful for a starter than offhand strike. plus, longswords ( = weapons with highest damage in absolute) are quite cheap - if not free - nowadays.
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Mar 18 2015, 23:26
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 18 2015, 21:07)  link or note, an average leather is still an average breastplate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Course, still useful for him to know though. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 18 2015, 21:07)  personally i think splash damage is more useful for a starter than offhand strike. plus, longswords ( = weapons with highest damage in absolute) are quite cheap - if not free - nowadays. Yep, agreed - just depends on what style he wants (if any).
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Mar 18 2015, 23:29
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 18 2015, 22:26)  Yep, agreed - just depends on what style he wants (if any).
true. just for his information, i suggested 2H because i had a positive experience back then (and still use it every now and then with mace on low difficulties)
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Mar 19 2015, 00:37
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Pillowgirl
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Hey experts, i don't play anymore but i do have monsters to maintain.
Can anyone spare some happy pills and chow for my kawaii monstas?
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Mar 19 2015, 00:44
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VriskaSerket
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if i remember correctly somewhere was chart with player level/difficulty - monsters powerlevel in battle. link?
This post has been edited by VriskaSerket: Mar 19 2015, 00:45
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