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are there reasonable high PLs?
I guess PL2250 will never pay off. But how about 1000, 1200 or 1500 or something like that?

~year for payback not chaosed ~800PL.
dont know about higher PLs, havent them, but obviously even longer.

This post has been edited by VriskaSerket: Mar 8 2015, 01:43

are there reasonable high PLs?
I guess PL2250 will never pay off. But how about 1000, 1200 or 1500 or something like that?

~1000 should be the minimum PL for your monster to appear daily. most of the monsters you deal with are in the 1000~1200 range

I have a lot of spare equipment which I'm sure I will never use. What's the best way to get rid of them? Sell them to shop, salvage them or putting them up for auction and hope somebody wants them?

I have a lot of spare equipment which I'm sure I will never use. What's the best way to get rid of them? Sell them to shop, salvage them or putting them up for auction and hope somebody wants them?

Sell to bazaar for most.

You're very unlikely to have something worth auctioning (even at my level, I've only ever found maybe 2 things that might possibly be worth 50k).

You can salvage to get scrap so you can repair damaged equipment, but equipment doesn't degrade much at all at your level, and you probably don't play enough for enough scrap to be worth selling.

If my numbers is correct than 2250pl monster req 300m credits. Its definitely not so easy to pay back.

are there reasonable high PLs?
I guess PL2250 will never pay off. But how about 1000, 1200 or 1500 or something like that?

If my numbers is correct than 2250pl monster req 300m credits. Its definitely not so easy to pay back.

Someone posted this table awhile ago:

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/xmIKJnC.png)

5603x55000=308m.

to put in perspective, FOS cost is 50k hath = 50k *7.5k = 375m

And a Cat girl is 10Gs = 10 * 25m = 250m

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 8 2015, 10:22

I would like to know is there anyone selling a good "Legendary Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter"?
I can only find one in this shop, and its price is not affordable for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I have a lot of spare equipment which I'm sure I will never use. What's the best way to get rid of them? Sell them to shop, salvage them or putting them up for auction and hope somebody wants them?

salvage all average and below. as for superiors, sell to bazaar all rares (shade, phase, power, katana and katalox) and salvage all the rest. if you already own some exq, you may want to check if sell price is more than 600c (in that case sell them), otherwise do the same thing as superiors

Thinking of challenging Konata in RoB. From what I could find, use wind attacks. Think my level can handle her on normal?

Thinking of challenging Konata in RoB. From what I could find, use wind attacks. Think my level can handle her on normal?

It should be no problem even at higher difficulties.

Thanks, beat her without problems on NM

Thinking of challenging Konata in RoB. From what I could find, use wind attacks. Think my level can handle her on normal?

Just so you know, in the future in Ring of Blood or at the end of arena, you don't have to worry much about bosses' specific mitigation strengths or weaknesses all that much (unless you need to play as mage) - if you're melee, spells won't do any damage, and if you have an Ethereal weapon (easy to get) or IW 10 weapon, their specific physical mitigations don't matter due to Void damage type.

Also, on the topic of efficient monster lab PLs, I found this while searching for something completely unrelated:

It seem the daily win PL threshold is around 1000 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
My PL 651 army can only have weekly win now. On the other hand, monsters that slightly over PL 1000 can have 5+ wins per day.
No information about different race btw. Only have mid-level humanoid and mechanoid here.

Finally got my shade set. The stat isn't that bad without the skills sloted. If it go well in Hellfest, I will IW them ASAP.

Finally managed to clear IW @IWBTH. It took a really long time though (30-40 minutes?). And definitely a lot more than 5-6 pots (more like all of them). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Im not even sure if it's more efficient than maging @nintendo since I can go through it in 7-10 minutes. Although I suppose its not a fair comparison since the price difference heavily favors my mage set.

also, it would be bertter if you reach 200 forbidden prof to cast ragnarok, siphon spirit will be way more efficient

[edit]: oh, btw, now that i see it block is a bit low. did you slot 'better block' ability?

To add to the debate, I think having Ragnarok really helped. I found that even with 7-9 monsters per round, disentegrate wasn't proccing efficiently (maybe 60-70% of the time) whereas ragnarok was proccing 95% of the time. Also not sure if it made the biggest difference, but I thought the blunted attack proc from ragnarok helped a lot since I didn't get hit as hard during the rounds I casted it.
And yup, I had better block slotted. I think I was missing an extra 2% since my 1h prof was only ~250.

What's the average block % at our level Scremaz? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

You still have some 1h proficiency to go - getting it up to your level will give you around 2% more block chance (which high level players sometimes spend millions to get (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

You could exchange one Power Slaughter for one good Plate of Protection, for use in IW, since defense is more important in IW than in other battle series. (up to a point)?

For some reason, I thought better block was part of heavy armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
Ended up slotting in 2 pieces of plate armor and I (subjectively) think it helped? I was still getting hit hard, but not as often. I have still yet to see if I can complete IW with full power. I'll update on how that works

To add to the debate, I think having Ragnarok really helped. I found that even with 7-9 monsters per round, disentegrate wasn't proccing efficiently (maybe 60-70% of the time) whereas ragnarok was proccing 95% of the time. Also not sure if it made the biggest difference, but I thought the blunted attack proc from ragnarok helped a lot since I didn't get hit as hard during the rounds I casted it.

Did you have Better Disintegrate x2? If not, proc rate is only 67.2% (only hits 5 monsters) and Ragnarok works better. Maybe this is what Screamaz was experiencing as well...?

What's the average block % at our level Scremaz?

Mine is 47.3%. Quite bad compared to many with forged shields, but if level is high enough, it doesn't matter unless you're doing IW or GF or really want that extra 0.1% clear speed from extra counter attacks.

Did you have Better Disintegrate x2? If not, proc rate is only 67.2% (only hits 5 monsters) and Ragnarok works better. Maybe this is what Screamaz was experiencing as well...?Mine is 47.3%. Quite bad compared to many with forged shields, but if level is high enough, it doesn't matter unless you're doing IW or GF or really want that extra 0.1% clear speed from extra counter attacks.

Yup, even with maxed better disintegrate, I wasn't proccing nearly enough, but my sample size is only 75-ish rounds. But there was definitely a big difference in proc rate for ragnarok vs disentegrate. Did a quick calculation and the difference is 79% vs 95-99% proc (for 6-9 monsters). Seems similar to what I was experiencing.

If 47.3% is quite bad, I don't even know what to say about mine (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

If 47.3% is quite bad, I don't even know what to say about mine (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

2 things to consider: forging can increase block by quite a lot, 10% or more. I've only forged to 5 while others around my level probably forge to ~15+ or a lot more.

Also, block (and block proficiency) scales by level, which you probably already know - the same style/gear worn by a level 400 player that results in 55% block could be only 45%? block for a level 250 player, for instance. Exact numbers are on the wiki.

To add to the debate, I think having Ragnarok really helped. I found that even with 7-9 monsters per round, disentegrate wasn't proccing efficiently (maybe 60-70% of the time) whereas ragnarok was proccing 95% of the time.

exactly what i was saying. not sure about the numbers, but ragnarok is quite a warranty if compared with disintegrate, even with both abilities slotted

What's the average block % at our level Scremaz? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

i guess something in between the 45~50 range. maybe more if you want to do SG frequently. not sure though

Ended up slotting in 2 pieces of plate armor and I (subjectively) think it helped? I was still getting hit hard, but not as often. I have still yet to see if I can complete IW with full power. I'll update on how that works

i don't think: plates should have added some PMI/MMI, but at the price of a (quite relevant!) amount of ADB. personally i don't think it's worth the gamble, but it may mean you have some survivability problems. maybe switch those plates to power of protection/warding just to have the advantages of both kinds and do another try. feel free to prove me wrong though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Did you have Better Disintegrate x2? If not, proc rate is only 67.2% (only hits 5 monsters) and Ragnarok works better. Maybe this is what Screamaz was experiencing as well...?

i tried even with both abilities slotted, disintegrate is still a gamble. surely not reliable if you have a desperate need of SP and you want it now

Mine is 47.3%. Quite bad compared to many with forged shields, but if level is high enough, it doesn't matter unless you're doing IW or GF or really want that extra 0.1% clear speed from extra counter attacks.

this shield brings me to 53% total block: originally L-2 (or L-1? can't remember), and i forged it a bit. but i guess it doesn't really add so much if compared to a 50%...

2 things to consider: forging can increase block by quite a lot, 10% or more. I've only forged to 5 while others around my level probably forge to ~15+ or a lot more.

Also, block (and block proficiency) scales by level, which you probably already know - the same style/gear worn by a level 400 player that results in 55% block could be only 45%? block for a level 250 player, for instance. Exact numbers are on the wiki.

forging is quite interesting: 17 levels mean +20% base, while full forging (50 levels) means +36% or so
and yes, block scales but quite slowly: 340 levels mean +16% gain (7 points), so i don't really think 150 levels are worth 10 points (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
still, if you consider both those effects you may earn something like +40% (referred to base), not bad...