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post Feb 8 2015, 11:50
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Asking again because i didn't see an answer... why crude equipment seems to be so valuable in the wts/wtb section? The crappier it is, the more it seems to be worth...
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post Feb 8 2015, 12:02
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QUOTE(Zaesha @ Feb 8 2015, 15:20) *

Asking again because i didn't see an answer... why crude equipment seems to be so valuable in the wts/wtb section? The crappier it is, the more it seems to be worth...

Those are Antics, meaning they don't drop anymore. So there is a demand of them in the market from Collectors. Just like how 1000 year old coins are sold for millions of bucks in real life. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 12:12
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Feb 8 2015, 08:06) *

... only one word comes to mind: stalker!!!

do you fear me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(Zaesha @ Feb 8 2015, 10:50) *

Asking again because i didn't see an answer... why crude equipment seems to be so valuable in the wts/wtb section? The crappier it is, the more it seems to be worth...

you have an unread pm since 4th Feb, says my tracker log (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
back then i remember i answered you for a certain reason, but i don't even remember it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
feel free to post here to discuss, if you need to do so, but is pretty much the same answer as tetron...

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post Feb 8 2015, 12:18
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Feb 8 2015, 16:56) *

Can you please elaborate how you achieved that? It tells me whether I can dream of doing so myself.

Eg, If your 1 cotton requirement was something like Peerless heaven-sent staff + 4 penetrator + 50 forge; Lmax heaven-sent cotton + 50 forge, DW hath perk = I can think about this build after a couple of years of grinding

Even with 2 cottons, it seems pretty difficult to reach 2.0 factor.

Holy: Peerless heaven-sent staff + prof pants + hath perk. Mild-forgerd.
Cold: Leg redwood of elementalist + 2 prof cotton. No perk.
Elec: Willow staff + 5 phase.

FYI, it is not necessary to use a peerless staff to build a 2.0 prof fact set with only 1 cotton. A leg staff will do.

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post Feb 8 2015, 12:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 8 2015, 11:12) *

do you fear me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

ça va sans dire... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Who wouldn't PH34R someone looking like this:

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post Feb 8 2015, 12:30
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 8 2015, 18:18) *

Holy: Peerless heaven-sent staff + prof pants + hath perk. Mild-forgerd.
Cold: Leg redwood of elementalist + 2 prof cotton. No perk.
Elec: Willow staff + 5 phase.

FYI, it is not necessary to use a peerless staff to build a 2.0 prof fact set with only 1 cotton. A leg staff will do.


Wouldn't an oak staff + 2 prof yield better damage?
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post Feb 8 2015, 12:54
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Feb 8 2015, 11:28) *

ça va sans dire... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Who wouldn't PH34R someone looking like this:

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worry not, i'm not one of those Poo Po Po Po Po Poooo Poo guys.

tbh i watch only the afterdays football commentaries, when usually there's a lot of pussies, such these ones:

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post Feb 8 2015, 13:04
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Feb 8 2015, 00:56) *
How does it work for you? You must've taken 3-4 turns just to cast Imperil on everyone. Do you Imperil again if it was resisted the first time? Then, your magic score is high even to kill everyone in another 3-4 rounds?


Whether or not I decide to try Imperil on something that initially resisted it depends in part on round composition. If 8 or 9 out of 10 enemies have Imperil, for example, then at that point I might decide that it's safer to proceed killing and deal with the stragglers later. Furthermore, if the situation is safe and there's a monster that resists my Imperil and I don't recognize it to have high wind mitigation, then I might not bother trying Imperil again. When I move on to killing, it usually takes 1-4 casts to clear the round. It's hard to put into words something which I don't really think about while playing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's not to say that there aren't any asshole rounds where the turn count goes over 10 because the RNG decides to mess with you somehow, and when it comes to them, I don't think any one equipment set composition or playstyle is better off.

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post Feb 8 2015, 13:48
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Question: which part is better as a proficiency one for mage gears (head, body, hands, pants, shoes)? I'm trying the suicidal route of dark mage. ^^
And while I'm at it: Willow or Katalox for a dark mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 14:03
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QUOTE(Zaesha @ Feb 8 2015, 11:50) *

Asking again because i didn't see an answer... why crude equipment seems to be so valuable in the wts/wtb section? The crappier it is, the more it seems to be worth...


So people can do Item World for exp against monsters who are really easy.
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post Feb 8 2015, 14:53
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ Feb 8 2015, 13:03) *

So people can do Item World for exp against monsters who are really easy.

ho, completely forgot about this.

btw, i used a 50-round IW to compare two sets of mine, forgot to reset and this is the result: check here. other three amnesias wasted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:06
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QUOTE(boulay @ Feb 8 2015, 11:48) *

Question: which part is better as a proficiency one for mage gears (head, body, hands, pants, shoes)? I'm trying the suicidal route of dark mage. ^^
And while I'm at it: Willow or Katalox for a dark mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

willow of destruction
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:10
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Feb 8 2015, 14:06) *

willow of destruction

because of counter-resist?
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 8 2015, 13:10) *

because of counter-resist?

and price.
and if heavy forged - you can use same staff for Elec/Wind set.
anyway, still not seen Katalox staff better that my willow one.
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:19
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Feb 8 2015, 14:14) *

and price.
and if heavy forged - you can use same staff for Elec/Wind set.
anyway, still not seen Katalox staff better that my willow one.

cheaper and more versatile then. roger that
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:25
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Feb 8 2015, 14:14) *

and price.
and if heavy forged - you can use same staff for Elec/Wind set.
anyway, still not seen Katalox staff better that my willow one.

Thanks for the reply, I saw another answer for prof gears on the last page too ^^'
Still wanted to ask since I don't really know if the holy EDB on katalox really makes a difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:31
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QUOTE(boulay @ Feb 8 2015, 14:25) *

Still wanted to ask since I don't really know if the holy EDB on katalox really makes a difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

it can surely give you a boost to cure spell. i remember colman once said that many players are moving towards one piece with holy edb for this reason

but at this point, since staff is quite important and quite cheaper to forge if compared to phase, to reach the same goal wouldn't it be better to have a willow of destruction + one phase of heimdall (maybe radiant)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:42
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^ dark was designed as glass cannon, if you need more heal - use holy set instead. and for holy katalox probably better (but i still not seen better than my Oak one.) )
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:43
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so, usually willow are better than katalox for dark and oak are better for holy. then what's the point in having a katalox apart for showing off? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 8 2015, 15:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 8 2015, 13:43) *

so, usually willow are better than katalox for dark and oak are better for holy. then what's the point in having a katalox apart for showing off? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

projected maximum of stats on katalox somewhat higher. but with 3%(?) ratio of katalox - non katalox, it still expensive toy for rich players.
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