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~1000 rounds @ IWBTH. The actual time is depended on the ping.

Assuming 1 round = 0.3 minute, it will need 300 minutes, or around 5 hours to get that... It sure takes a lot of effort then. An IW'd mag item for 50k feel really cheap now...

as your monster lab, should i keep the morale will happy pill when they reach 25/50 lvl?

Crystal upgrades are very cheap for low PL, so go ahead and use crystals if you have any. Happy pills are for high PL monsters that cost way too much crystal to upgrade, or if you're intentionally keeping the monster at a low level.

How is the damage of the elemental strike calculated? Is there a formula somewhere on the wiki? Can elemental strike inflict status effects?

For rapier PABs, is this correct?
3 PAB > STR + DEX > STR + AGI > DEX + AGI

And, I'm trying to figure out the base WD for IW'ed / forged stuff without using the script (because I'm outside). For example, this rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b9ae6550f6 base is 47 when hovering over the WD.

- Butcher adds 2% per level, so I just divide by 1+2*butcher%, right? ie, for Butcher 4, I'd divide by 1.08

- For forged WD, I would divide by 1 + 0.278875 * ln(0.1 * forge_count + 1). Ie, for forge level 5, divide by 1.113

- For both IW'ed and forged WD, I'd divide by both... and the order doesn't matter? So the pre-forge, pre-IW base is approx 39.1, which should be approximately SMax-0.91?

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jan 22 2015, 10:03

For the Luck of the Draw training (+1% Loot Quality Bonus), does that apply only to loot drops or other things too, like the shrine?

For the Luck of the Draw training (+1% Loot Quality Bonus), does that apply only to loot drops or other things too, like the shrine?

Loot drops. Nothing affects the Shrine, except trophy tier and the Follower of Snowflake hath perk.

Crystal upgrades are very cheap for low PL, so go ahead and use crystals if you have any. Happy pills are for high PL monsters that cost way too much crystal to upgrade, or if you're intentionally keeping the monster at a low level.

But i calculated the C/P of happy pill is 0.166667@1000c, but when i use crystal the formula "500 + 2.5*N" means the more the crystal i spend each time, the more i lost, when over 15 crystal@5.9c is using for feeding them, then the C/P is lower than happy pill, so if i want to save credit just for daily gift, should i just feed them with happy pill?

Is this worth anything for holy mages?

Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall

This post has been edited by helno: Jan 22 2015, 10:01

Looks like the experts aren't around at the moment. But I think it's worth going to auction.

Is this worth anything for holy mages?

Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall

As a holy mage, I dun think it is attractive. At least for my level.
May be able to sell for 50k-200k.

not much unfortunately. why you ask? 1. plenty of good drops in the past six months. 2. not many low level mages, let alone dark mages. so in that regard, yeah 'in memory of dark mage.' 3. mage pfudor play requires very high stats to be able to compete. there is a incredibly steep curve when it comes to price vs stats.

thanks for answer, but also damn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
would it be at least auctionable with some Eco levels?

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try to go for the one at wannaf auction. personally i consider #3 the best available at qinkin's, but it's already been sold. if you can't win auction, go for another (cheaper!) prefix atm. for a starter, even fiery may be good enough, what really matters is PA, block chance and void strike only at higher levels - which can be achieved also via IW

How is the damage of the elemental strike calculated? Is there a formula somewhere on the wiki? Can elemental strike inflict status effects?

iirc, is estimated to be roughly half of ADB (as all strikes besides main damage), but is affected by crit, mob's mitigation and i don't know what else.
it cannot inflict status effect, which is reserved to spells and spike shields. it can still take advantage of those and mob's weaknesses though, as far as i know it

For rapier PABs, is this correct?
3 PAB > STR + DEX > STR + AGI > DEX + AGI

assuming you're going to use heavy armors, DEX is quite useful (because it raises many stats) and usually is higher than STR, so it has a bit of priority over STR, while AGI is useful only for SP tank. i'd say:

3 PAB > STR + DEX > DEX + AGI > STR + AGI

And, I'm trying to figure out the base WD for IW'ed / forged stuff without using the script (because I'm outside). For example, this rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b9ae6550f6 base is 47 when hovering over the WD.

1- Butcher adds 2% per level, so I just divide by 1+2*butcher%, right? ie, for Butcher 4, I'd divide by 1.08

2- For forged WD, I would divide by 1 + 0.278875 * ln(0.1 * forge_count + 1). Ie, for forge level 5, divide by 1.113

3- For both IW'ed and forged WD, I'd divide by both... and the order doesn't matter? So the pre-forge, pre-IW base is approx 39.1, which should be approximately SMax-0.91?

1- yes

2- hd once said that formula isn't correct, while this one being the correct one. i tried and there isn't that big of a difference at low levels though, so i'd say yes, that's a good estimation

3- no, it doesn't matter. multiplication is commutative (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

EDIT: nvm

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Jan 22 2015, 14:49

Good idea. Thanks @scremaz and @djackallstar.

The script does this:
forgeFactor = 1 + 0.278875 * Math.log(0.1 * forge + 1)
baseRoll = Math.floor(base / fluc / (1 + iw * 0.02) / forgeFactor)
Math.round((baseRoll + (base / fluc - baseRoll * (1 + iw * 0.02) * forgeFactor)) * fluc * 100) / 100;

I have no idea what fluc is, but it is apparently 0.854 for attack damage.

:head swimming:

I think... if I need to do any accurate comparison, I should just wait until I can use the script, instead of attempting to do the math by calculation.

personally i consider #3 the best available at qinkin's, but it's already been sold. if you can't win auction, go for another (cheaper!) prefix atm.

That's too bad, mastaninja. Maybe the buyer's attention was drawn to it by the discussion here too. That's why I'm hesitant to ask for an appraisal of another rapier that I've got my eyes on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jan 22 2015, 15:27

I have no idea what fluc is, but it is apparently 0.854 for attack damage.

if it's this way, then it's Base multiplier/Fluctuation that you can find on these tables

As a holy mage, I dun think it is attractive. At least for my level.
May be able to sell for 50k-200k.

I think it's good auction and holy mage bait. If only it had better edb. However, the name itself and the M damage should fetch some good money, throw it to auction

I think I don't really need the credits from selling my trophies (eg to Dani).

But, what else can I do with these trophies? And at what point would the trophies be worth more shrined than sold (if ever)? When I get FoS?

Quick Question:
How does everyone spend their blood tokens?
5 token for one noodly ?
(which sounds lame as the price drops, but maybe wait for next patch and the shrining result will be better?)
Or save them until you can fight triple trio at (???) difficulty with max LotD,
and then hope that the equipment drop upon clear will be good?

I think I don't really need the credits from selling my trophies (eg to Dani).

they are quite useful as side incoming, i'd say, but you need several days to have something worth selling

But, what else can I do with these trophies? And at what point would the trophies be worth more shrined than sold (if ever)? When I get FoS?

'regular' people like me, you and whoever isn't a hath baron won't ever buy FoS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
imo, when nobody is buying noodlies you can try to shrine one or two every now and then: it's not that 30k will affect your finances so much...

How does everyone spend their blood tokens?

FSM. very rarely TTT (it happened less that 5 times i think)

5 token for one noodly ?

5 tokens for one noodly + a granted token drop (which may also be a chaos one) + a gear shot (which 99% of times will be a trolly one. there's always that 1% of hope though...)
spending 10 tokens to slightly raise the drop quality isn't worth the effort imo, too tiring to do PF TTT. and you'll lose a token drop everytime, btw

which sounds lame as the price drops, but maybe wait for next patch and the shrining result will be better?

it may be a solution. but i guess bosses and SGs will remain worthless - except for dani, who uses them everytime to come near the 10M threshold.
tenboro clearly said that with this patch gears will become 'less trolly', he did never say they will become 'more usable' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
at this point better to wait for trophies price to raise and sell them, if you really want

Or save them until you can fight triple trio at (???) difficulty with max LotD,
and then hope that the equipment drop upon clear will be good?

LotD 19 requires 1M, and any further trainings will be even worst, so you may have to build... 10M? 15? for the last 5 levels
with only one thin mint as passive incoming chances are that will grow bored of this game before maximizing your LotD.
also, you can hope for the 0.0~something~01% chance of a peerless drop at every level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Or save them until you can fight triple trio at (???) difficulty with max LotD,
and then hope that the equipment drop upon clear will be good?

That.

Quick Question:
How does everyone spend their blood tokens?
5 token for one noodly ?
(which sounds lame as the price drops, but maybe wait for next patch and the shrining result will be better?)
Or save them until you can fight triple trio at (???) difficulty with max LotD,
and then hope that the equipment drop upon clear will be good?

Go for FSM and its noodles, because you won't max LotD before a very long time, and selling them can help reaching that goal.

Im doing only FSM. Thats enough for daily tokens earn.