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post Jan 6 2015, 13:50
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0 pxp because I left the never ending item worlds to watch porn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


You should have seen IW befor the patch. There where never ending. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 6 2015, 13:52
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I want to be rich...

Anyway, @djackallstar, is there a script/tool that you use to collate the data of equipment/items?

Rephrase, in case someone suggests I use PMs. Is there a script/tool for collating the data of equipment/items, like djackallstar does it?
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post Jan 6 2015, 13:56
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jan 6 2015, 14:50) *

You should have seen IW befor the patch. There where never ending. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Well I was surprised, in 2013 I did it a bit and it was 130 turns or so for some exceptional exquisite piece of fine shit, but now it's 64 for magnificent stuff.
But my legendary power armor of procrastination kicked in and I left.Entered again in Battle-toads but left at round 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I was annoyed to see I had to cure a lot at such garbage difficulty even with 1h+shield, guess I need more than 24.5 in 1h prof and the hath perks people told me to buy, but right now they are all waiting for me to sell even more cheap kGP's so I won't give in today (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 6 2015, 13:59
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Jan 6 2015, 12:45) *

Yeah I guess so, it's barely better than my own helmet of pure shit that isn't worth more than 75k if lucky :
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1b4a474259

There is a lot of legendary power on sale but all warding or protections, but cost around 1.25M or 2M for a lot of them.Is it worth it or not?Less fire power but more physical mitigations.

You can get leg power of protection/warding for 50~100k in auctions.

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I want to be rich...

Says the one who wasted 4M credits maxing Assimilator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jan 6 2015, 14:01
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Are those boots worth 700k?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9edf142ce1

The STR and STA is low...

I'm stuck with this disgrace for now...
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=78f030f68d

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post Jan 6 2015, 14:03
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Jan 6 2015, 19:56) *

Well I was surprised, in 2013 I did it a bit and it was 130 turns or so for some exceptional exquisite piece of fine shit, but now it's 64 for magnificent stuff.
But my legendary power armor of procrastination kicked in and I left.Entered again in Battle-toads but left at round 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I was annoyed to see I had to cure a lot at such garbage difficulty even with 1h+shield, guess I need more than 24.5 in 1h prof and the hath perks people told me to buy, but right now they are all waiting for me to sell even more cheap kGP's so I won't give in today (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I just got my leg power of balance with 500k. Let see when will my connection to HV become normal and start IW it.

If you are here long enough, you can tell switch shops are selling stuff and which shops are just for display. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Jan 6 2015, 20:01) *

Are those boots worth 700k?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9edf142ce1

The STR and STA is low...

I think the price in his shop is rather reasonable.
FYI, I have bought a few expensive pieces from his shop.

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post Jan 6 2015, 14:05
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Jan 6 2015, 13:01) *

Are those boots worth 700k?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9edf142ce1

The STR and STA is low...

I'm stuck with this disgrace for now...
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=78f030f68d

Everyone who plays melee wants Power armor, so the prices in shops are usually inflated. If you want to get Power at a reasonable price, I fear you have no choice but to buy in auctions.
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post Jan 6 2015, 14:08
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 19:52) *

I want to be rich...

Anyway, @djackallstar, is there a script/tool that you use to collate the data of equipment/items?

Rephrase, in case someone suggests I use PMs. Is there a script/tool for collating the data of equipment/items, like djackallstar does it?


Hmm dunno about script/tool, but Google can help you to a certain extent.
[www.marcofolio.net] http://www.marcofolio.net/tips/10_tips_for...ch_phrases.html

For example, say you'd like to have a leg slaughter rapier:
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org
[www.google.com] https://www.google.com/search?q="Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter" site:forums.e-hentai.org

Something like that.


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post Jan 6 2015, 14:15
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Thanks, I guess that works!

I was trying forum search for "Gloves of the Demon-Fiend" in WTS subforum, but still got a lot of results for bindings.

Anyway, how much d'ya think this would go for in auction Legendary Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Demon-fiend? The shelf price is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 6 2015, 19:59) *

Says the one who wasted 4M credits maxing Assimilator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


That's part of why I'm poor now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) at least I don't have problems grinding my staff and other proficiencies.

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post Jan 6 2015, 15:14
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 20:15) *

Thanks, I guess that works!

No problem. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 20:15) *

I was trying forum search for "Gloves of the Demon-Fiend" in WTS subforum, but still got a lot of results for bindings.

Anyway, how much d'ya think this would go for in auction Legendary Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Demon-fiend? The shelf price is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
That's part of why I'm poor now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) at least I don't have problems grinding my staff and other proficiencies.

An prof cotton/gossamer piece with Lmax-minus prof (Lmax-0.33 or Mmax) often sells at less than 1m in auctions.
Holy/Dark are more popular so the price can be higher; plus, for some ppl, when choosing prof equips, they think cap/gloves/shoes > robe/pants, because they lose less firepower wearing cotton cap/gloves/shoes than cotton robe/pants, hence the price can go even higher if the bidders are aware of that.
If I were you I'd rather buy this cotton because it's cheaper (1.5m) and its prof is higher (Lmax-0.33).

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post Jan 6 2015, 15:16
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Just some lucky roll.
Your spirit shield absorbs 0 points of damage from the attack into 0 points of spirit damage.

Btw. Seems im quite lucky, because this time i got 2lvl fatality from 1st try and also...hm, swift strike. What is the best combo for 1h rapier? With butcher? Atm i have 3F+1SS.

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post Jan 6 2015, 15:32
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Btw. Seems im quite lucky, because this time i got 2lvl fatality from 1st try and also...hm, swift strike. What is the best combo for 1h rapier? With butcher? Atm i have 3F+1SS.

Butcher and Fatality.
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post Jan 6 2015, 15:33
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jan 6 2015, 21:14) *

No problem. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
An prof cotton/gossamer piece with Lmax-minus prof (Lmax-0.33 or Mmax) often sells at less than 1m in auctions.
Holy/Dark are more popular so the price can be higher; plus, for some ppl, when choosing prof equips, they think cap/gloves/shoes > robe/pants, because they lose less firepower wearing cotton cap/gloves/shoes than cotton robe/pants, hence the price can go even higher if the bidders are aware of that.
If I were you I'd rather buy this cotton because it's cheaper (1.5m) and its prof is higher (Lmax-0.33).


Well, they'd lose less firepower, but also gain less proficiency. So it's a balance, I guess. I preferred gloves because that's currently my weakest fenrir item, but I guess any position would do too.

That's an elementalist cap. It wouldn't be useful for my forbidden proficiency right?

Are Gossamer equipment outdated/unadvisable? I found this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=72dd6841a8, which looks pretty nice, but compared to Legendary Amber Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend, it's
- missing attack accuracy (no biggie)
- PMI is lower by 1% although both are Mmax
- Missing resist

I thought it's still a nice piece. What would be a fair price, d'ya think?
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post Jan 6 2015, 15:58
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 21:33) *

That's an elementalist cap. It wouldn't be useful for my forbidden proficiency right?

My bad. I meant this one.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b4d7bf2c74
For prof gains, in general, robe > pants >> cap ~ gloves >> shoes (you might already know)

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 21:33) *

Are Gossamer equipment outdated/unadvisable? I found this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=72dd6841a8, which looks pretty nice, but compared to Legendary Amber Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend, it's
- missing attack accuracy (no biggie)
- PMI is lower by 1% although both are Mmax
- Missing resist

I thought it's still a nice piece. What would be a fair price, d'ya think?

Nah. That gossamer has no DEX. To me, DEX is the only reason to choose gossamer over cotton.
More discussion about DEX btwn n125 & Colman: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3563649

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post Jan 6 2015, 16:18
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Btw. Seems im quite lucky, because this time i got 2lvl fatality from 1st try and also...hm, swift strike. What is the best combo for 1h rapier? With butcher? Atm i have 3F+1SS.

keep it and aim for 5F. a couple of butcher by the end would surely be better, otherwise no big problem - high fatality is already a nice goal
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post Jan 6 2015, 17:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 6 2015, 17:18) *

keep it and aim for 5F. a couple of butcher by the end would surely be better, otherwise no big problem - high fatality is already a nice goal

Its already 5f and 2ss. Aiming at butcher, but of course any ll be ok and i gonna finish today. Not rly high damage increase for...near 1k rounds or even more, but 1h is mostly solo target attack. This way additional elemental strike is quite pretty.
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post Jan 6 2015, 17:52
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Thanks! I've got a few more questions.

1. Are proficiency cloths only required in the mid-game? Would end-game mages still pack a proficiency cloth to improve counter-resist or would they revert to a dmg maximising combo?

2. Is Legendary Jade Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiendreally worth 1.5m?

In a recent auction, Legendary Jade Cotton Shoes of the Demon-fiend went for 660k before IW/forging. Stats were:
M attack accuracy, magic accuracy
L-0.2 PMI, L-0.1 MMI
S Evade
S-0.7 Resist
L+0.02 proficiency (how can this be?)
S-2.0 Elemental Mitigation
M AGI, Int
S+0.4 Wis.

This should also be a nice piece, but went at less than half price, ya?

3. If I bought Teana's cap, is it a keeper? Good enough to IW, forge and continue using?
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post Jan 6 2015, 18:08
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 16:52) *

Thanks! I've got a few more questions.

1. Are proficiency cloths only required in the mid-game? Would end-game mages still pack a proficiency cloth to improve counter-resist or would they revert to a dmg maximising combo?

Keep a prof cotton for the counter-resist and lower spell cost. Monsters with high PL generally have high resist and elemental mitigations.

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Maybe if it was an Elementalist one since the demand is higher than the offer (4 elements, but only 1 specific prof cotton). I would say no for cotton of the Demon-Fiend.

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L+0.02 proficiency (how can this be?)

Rounding error due to level scaling. It's LMax.

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This should also be a nice piece, but went at less than half price, ya?

Closer to what I think it's worth. Prices in auctions really depends on how badly people want the piece of equipment at a given time though.

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2015, 16:52) *

3. If I bought Teana's cap, is it a keeper? Good enough to IW, forge and continue using?

It's lacking INT.

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Keep a prof cotton for the counter-resist and lower spell cost. Monsters with high PL generally have high resist and elemental mitigations.


That brings me to another thought. High PL monsters will need various debuffs stacked onto them right? Eg, Imperil + Magnet, maybe Silence. Since I need to debuff them anyway, should I be getting a deprecating proficiency cloth instead? I think Magnet will render them unable to resist.

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That brings me to another thought. High PL monsters will need various debuffs stacked onto them right? Eg, Imperil + Magnet, maybe Silence. Since I need to debuff them anyway, should I be getting a deprecating proficiency cloth instead? I think Magnet will render them unable to resist.

Better grab a Willow Staff if you want deprecating prof.

Magnet has a long cooldown, it's probably only useful for bosses.
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