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just wondering, did you note how many HP you earned?

Yeah totally, I just gain an additional 2800 HP compared to my last one.

Yeah totally, I just gain an additional 2800 HP compared to my last one.

not half bad, i'd say...

not half bad, i'd say...

I am still trying to find Power Gauntlets and Power Leggings with endurance though.

I am still trying to find Power Gauntlets and Power Leggings with endurance though.

oh, do you already use a spike shield? if not and have a spare mastery point, try it, there's a chance it processes an elemental effect on random mobs at every turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

use hoverplay and set 'weaken' in spell list, it works by itself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It easier to spend 400 pots and get 200 prof. After that i ll spam only if needed. And its lagging for me (only 1 action per few seconds and only in exactly spot with moving around mouse, probably, different chrome version).

Anyone can link me to some guide on salvaging ? Or should i forget about them and sell all my stuff to bazaar?

Anyone can link me to some guide on salvaging ? Or should i forget about them and sell all my stuff to bazaar?

The basic thing to do is: salvage if the value of the mats you get by salvaging is higher that what you get from selling it, sell otherwise.

Salvaging an average (or below) gear gives an amount of scrap equal to roundup(bazaar_value/100). For example, if you salvage an equipment with a bazaar value between 101c and 200c, you will get 2 scraps. Scrap cloth and wood are the only ones with a good value on the market (90+ credits each). For Metal and Leather... only salvage if you need them for repairs.

Salvaging a superior (or above) gear gives an amount of scraps equal to roundup(bazaar_price/500), plus a graded mat depending on the quality: low grade for superior, mid grade for exquisite, high grade for magnificent or above. As the amount of scrap you get is reduced, you will usually salvage if the sell value is under the value of the graded mat + 1 scrap.

The type of material you get depends on the gear type:
- One-Handed, Two-Handed, and Heavy Armor gives Metal
- Staff and Shield gives Wood
- Cloth Armor gives Cloth
- Light Armor gives Leather

For the respective values of graded mats, search the WTS section or look up the prices of the bazaar bot. Low grade mats should be worth about 100~200c each, mid grade mats about 600c each, and high grade mats are about 3k for Metal, 2k for Leather, 8k for Cloth and 10k for Wood.

If you are lazy: just salvage average- staff/shield/cloth, plus average- gear that gives you scraps you need for repairs, and sell the rest.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Nov 27 2014, 19:12

Can anyone tell me what are the Token Drop Rates (for Arena Token Bonus) for the 1st page Arena?

Can anyone tell me what are the Token Drop Rates (for Arena Token Bonus) for the 1st page Arena?

i guess very low/random, compared to second page. however, following this question, what are the arenas with the highest toke drop chance (except for SG marathons and T&T)?

i guess very low/random, compared to second page. however, following this question, what are the arenas with the highest toke drop chance (except for SG marathons and T&T)?

Dan31 said some times ago that the "Arena Token Bonus" depends on the "EXP Multiplier" for the 2nd page:

x1.1 EXP Multiplier - 10% Token Drop Chance.
x1.2 EXP Multiplier - 20% Token Drop Chance.
x1.3 EXP Multiplier - 30% Token Drop Chance.
x1.5 EXP Multiplier - 50% Token Drop Chance.
x1.6 EXP Multiplier - 60% Token Drop Chance.
x1.8 EXP Multiplier - 80% Token Drop Chance.
x1.9 EXP Multiplier - 90% Token Drop Chance.

The last 4 Arenas have guaranteed 100% Token Drop.

But since the 1st page Arenas does not have EXP Multiplier but can still generate Arena Token Bonus, I was wondering about their Drop Chance percentage.

Shock....So i had 22 tokens and new trio blood arena was available. Its huge price and i ve never did it, so i was thinking about x9 difficulte. U already probably guess that. But as first time i decided to take x6, because i dont wanna waste that 10 tokens for normal. And than...shock. 7 purple bosses, healing and 3 ordinary with 1m+ hp. What? How can i kill it if even ordinary has that much and its 10 dangerous mobs at the same time.

But than i noticed healer has low hp, so i killed him first. I killed few more and they all got strong buff and started to hit me hard. So i used many weaken (glad about update it before in abilities so even with 40 proficiency it was pretty nice time and 3 targets) and that was fine. But it was so close, last hits i was doing without shield, because spend all my sp pots. Huh. That was tough.

Dan31 said some times ago that the "Arena Token Bonus" depends on the "EXP Multiplier" for the 2nd page:

x1.1 EXP Multiplier - 10% Token Drop Chance.
x1.2 EXP Multiplier - 20% Token Drop Chance.
x1.3 EXP Multiplier - 30% Token Drop Chance.
x1.5 EXP Multiplier - 50% Token Drop Chance.
x1.6 EXP Multiplier - 60% Token Drop Chance.
x1.8 EXP Multiplier - 80% Token Drop Chance.
x1.9 EXP Multiplier - 90% Token Drop Chance.

The last 4 Arenas have guaranteed 100% Token Drop.

But since the 1st page Arenas does not have EXP Multiplier but can still generate Arena Token Bonus, I was wondering about their Drop Chance percentage.

What I said for late arenas should be a bonus chance actually, stacking multiplicatively to the normal chance.

Regarding the base chance of a token clear bonus, the wiki says it's around 15~25%.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/arena#Rewards

Shock....So i had 22 tokens and new trio blood arena was available. Its huge price and i ve never did it, so i was thinking about x9 difficulte. U already probably guess that. But as first time i decided to take x6, because i dont wanna waste that 10 tokens for normal. And than...shock. 7 purple bosses, healing and 3 ordinary with 1m+ hp. What? How can i kill it if even ordinary has that much and its 10 dangerous mobs at the same time.

But than i noticed healer has low hp, so i killed him first. I killed few more and they all got strong buff and started to hit me hard. So i used many weaken (glad about update it before in abilities so even with 40 proficiency it was pretty nice time and 3 targets) and that was fine. But it was so close, last hits i was doing without shield, because spend all my sp pots. Huh. That was tough.

Congrats. Don't hesitate to clear arenas/RoB at Normal difficulty the first time, just for the huge credit bonus.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Nov 27 2014, 22:05

so i have 2 tokens of blood and i can clear the monster encounter every half hour on battle toads. i was wondering what should i challenge in the ring of blood and what difficulty should i set it on to be ensure completion.

so i have 2 tokens of blood and i can clear the monster encounter every half hour on battle toads. i was wondering what should i challenge in the ring of blood and what difficulty should i set it on to be ensure completion.

Clear each RoB once for the credit bonus (Normal difficulty is okay if you just want the credits), then keep your tokens for Flying Spaghetti Monster. The Noodly Appendage it drops can be sold for 30~35k on the market. I recommend DW (Ethereal Club of Slaughter + Ethereal Rapier of Balance) with light armor for clearing them. Don't hesitate to use deprecating spells like Weaken and Silence.

Dan31 said some times ago that the "Arena Token Bonus" depends on the "EXP Multiplier" for the 2nd page:

x1.1 EXP Multiplier - 10% Token Drop Chance.
x1.2 EXP Multiplier - 20% Token Drop Chance.
x1.3 EXP Multiplier - 30% Token Drop Chance.
x1.5 EXP Multiplier - 50% Token Drop Chance.
x1.6 EXP Multiplier - 60% Token Drop Chance.
x1.8 EXP Multiplier - 80% Token Drop Chance.
x1.9 EXP Multiplier - 90% Token Drop Chance.

The last 4 Arenas have guaranteed 100% Token Drop.

But since the 1st page Arenas does not have EXP Multiplier but can still generate Arena Token Bonus, I was wondering about their Drop Chance percentage.

so let's say the useful ones are 'to kill a god' and above.
as for token rolls, apart from dan's answer source here

What I said for late arenas should be a bonus chance actually, stacking multiplicatively to the normal chance.

Regarding the base chance of a token clear bonus, the wiki says it's around 15~25%.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/arena#Rewards

hmmm... if i do this multiplicative thing for example with DwD i should obtain at best 25% * 3.0 = 75%, but i can't remember to have cleared it and not having received the token. also FSM has a quite higher chance to give you a token compared to konata, even if the exp mod is the same. where's the error? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Shock....So i had 22 tokens and new trio blood arena was available. Its huge price and i ve never did it, so i was thinking about x9 difficulte. U already probably guess that. But as first time i decided to take x6, because i dont wanna waste that 10 tokens for normal. And than...shock. 7 purple bosses, healing and 3 ordinary with 1m+ hp. What? How can i kill it if even ordinary has that much and its 10 dangerous mobs at the same time.

But than i noticed healer has low hp, so i killed him first. I killed few more and they all got strong buff and started to hit me hard. So i used many weaken (glad about update it before in abilities so even with 40 proficiency it was pretty nice time and 3 targets) and that was fine. But it was so close, last hits i was doing without shield, because spend all my sp pots. Huh. That was tough.

wow, quite a big masochist here, daring 10 tokens this way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
healing ability is due to SP ability of yggdrasil, which is one of the four standard enemies at the end of "trio and tree" arena and drops a 3k-worth trophy. on the other hand, all the mobs on the field receive also the "absorbing ward" effect as long it is alive.
another strategy (which may be useful/funny/challenging/whatever you want) may be to keep the tree constantly silenced and to hit only the other targets. doing this spares you from all of them gaining the "fury of the sisters" effect, but keeps the "absorbing ward" active, so you can't use magic offensive attacks. surely you have to kill the three goddesses as last just for their surplus processes

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 27 2014, 23:12

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enemies at the end of "trio and three" arena and drops a 3k-worth trophy. on the other
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That's... more mobs than I expert (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's... more mobs than I expert (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) thanks for pointing out, i was wondering why FSM is always escorted by three nice schoolgirls and i guess my brain disconnected from my hands for a bit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[edit]: now that i think about it, is there a reason because goddesses and dragons don't drop trophies? and why dragons aren't marked purple? sometimes when i come to challenge them i fail to recognize them for the first turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 27 2014, 23:15

so let's say the useful ones are 'to kill a god' and above.
as for token rolls, apart from dan's answer source here
hmmm... if i do this multiplicative thing for example with DwD i should obtain at best 25% * 3.0 = 75%, but i can't remember to have cleared it and not having received the token. also FSM has a quite higher chance to give you a token compared to konata, even if the exp mod is the same. where's the error? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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1. Multiplicative, as in 1-((1-chance1)*(1-chance2)).
2. T&T and above always give a token upon clear.
3. We did not talk about RoB's token chance at all.

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1. Multiplicative, as in 1-((1-chance1)*(1-chance2)).
2. T&T and above always give a token upon clear.
3. We did not talk about RoB's token chance at all.

1. uh, roger that. i hate this way of thinking, it's more perverted than my own thoughts about mikuru
2. roger that x2
3. let's talk now then, shall we? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) thanks for pointing out, i was wondering why FSM is always escorted by three nice schoolgirls and i guess my brain disconnected from my hands for a bit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[edit]: now that i think about it, is there a reason because goddesses and dragons don't drop trophies? and why dragons aren't marked purple? sometimes when i come to challenge them i fail to recognize them for the first turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

why should they purple ?
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